Trade Idea: Sully for Nerlens Noel

[SHAQATTACK]

I'd be for this .

If we keep KO as one of the primary scorers.

I'm afraid of Sullys long term future because of his weight issues.

Nerlins will never be fat ....LOL

[CsBanner18]

On the opposite side of things, how much trade value do people think Sullinger has right now?

----------------------------------

Myself, I think Sully's trade value is pretty little. Expiring contract. Due a massive payday. Still has not shown himself capable of defending the PF position on a regular basis. Undersized and poor defender at center. A skilled offensive player but inefficient largely due to bad shot-selection. Strong rebounder and passer. Serious concerns about his weight long term and whether he will keep off the extra pounds once he gets his payday.

Despite his good play .... I think Sully is only worth a mid first round pick in the 15-20 range.

I think Sully would get a low ceiling role player types. A 3+D type wing.

Best shot might be to go after an underperforming young player like McLemore. Best option to get someone with good upside for Sully. Roll the dice on someone like that.

Sully uses his weight to his advantage every night he plays. Despite his weight, he's proven he's s capable defender. He moves his feet quick enough to make switches. Have you been watching the games? I'm not moving Sully in a trade for a mid round pick or a guy like McLemore. I'd rather keep him, pay him, and possibly trade him later.

If we trade him, I want it to be in a package for a defensive guy like Nerlens or an upgrade on offense like Gallo or Tobias.

[LarBrd33]

If you look at them both as 10pts/10rebs guys then the trade makes sense because we have extra PFs and no real center.  I have not seen enough Sixers games to understand Noel's limitations but my sense is he has more value than Sullinger.  We have enough draft picks that I would be willing to add one to make the deal happen, just not a Brooklyn pick.

Awful hands. No range whatsoever. No post moves. Bad footwork. Lacks touch. Poor FT shooter. Turnover prone. Gives up position easily due to his thin frame. Doesn't rebound well in traffic.

He's the kind of guy that looked really promising when he was at Kentucky because you're anticipating development on the offensive end. However, he hasn't added anything to his game and the more time passes the more it seems likely that what you see is what you're going to get. He's a very athletic player that's not just not a good basketball player. His actual skill level is very low.

I'll present a question...forgetting draft position, hype, and the name on the jersey is Noel any better than Ezeli, Dieng, or Mahinmi?

PER 36       PPG    RPG   BPG   FG%

Ezeli             15.6   11.9  2.6    56.0
Dieng           13.3    9.5   1.6    52.0
Mahimni       12.0   10.5   1.9    56.6

VS

Noel             12.2    9.4    1.1   43.2

Honest question for you Ed.  Do you think this year reflects a lack of offensive development for Noel?  Obviously the bulk of his points last year came in the paint... a space currently occupied by Okafor on that team.  He reworked his shooting form this summer and they are trying to develop him into a power forward... he's struggling as a power forward.  He can't shoot mid-range very effectively yet.   But do you take that to mean he's regressed as a player who can score in the paint when playing his natural position?   

[LarBrd33]

I don't now, nor have I ever, understood this fascination with Nerlens Noel on these forums.  If he were on this team he'd be getting trashed for his lack of an offensive game and how he clogs the paint.

Exactly...im a UK fan and follow him but he has no offensive game and injuries will always be a concern

do you guys understand the fascination with Marcus smart ?

Smart looks like a much more dominant defensive player at his position than Noel. 

I think it's a stretch to suggest Smart is more dominant defensively as a PG/Sg than Noel is as a center.   Granted, Noel isn't playing center this year...

[Vermont Green]

I don't now, nor have I ever, understood this fascination with Nerlens Noel....

I don't think discussing a trade about a young player at a position of need constitutes "fascination". 

I like Sullinger, I see a lot of potential but I am starting to wonder if we will see that potential.  If he tops out where he is now, he is an OK player but a disappointment.  I certainly do not want to overpay for him.  Trading him for Noel is an interesting option to discuss.

[danglertx]

I don't now, nor have I ever, understood this fascination with Nerlens Noel on these forums.  If he were on this team he'd be getting trashed for his lack of an offensive game and how he clogs the paint.

Exactly...im a UK fan and follow him but he has no offensive game and injuries will always be a concern

do you guys understand the fascination with Marcus smart ?

Smart looks like a much more dominant defensive player at his position than Noel. 

I think it's a stretch to suggest Smart is more dominant defensively as a PG/Sg than Noel is as a center.   Granted, Noel isn't playing center this year...

I don't.  I think most basketball people seem to think Smart is already among the best defensive players at his position.  Almost every game he does something defensively that amazes me.  Noel, egh...  blocks a shot every now and then and gets pushed around by bigger people.