Warriors (23-0) at Celtics (13-9) Game # 23 12/11/15

[positivitize]

I've been pacing for the last 45 min so I don't know what people have been saying about end of game/end of 1st OT.  Am I the only one that was screaming "call a TO!!!" in both of those situations with tie game and time for last shot???

Uhhh, not at all. I was SCREAMING it. This one is on Brad, no question. We have no PP, Lebron, or Curry, so we HAVE to set up a play there. Otherwise, you get those two crappy possessions with IT forcing crap.

I am a Stevens fan, but I agree as well.  We are a young team that doesn't have a go to guy.  We need to have the advantage of surprise, and a well executed out of time out play.  I don't know what Brad was thinking.  I mean give us the best chance possible right?

And what makes it worse is Brad has been excellent at drawing up those exact types of plays, too. That was just two absolute missteps by him.

I agree, but I see what he was doing. He's showing his trust and faith that he has in IT. This is why we brought IT here. (not to start games) To finish games. Both times IT4 had the ball in his hand with time on the clock. If Stevens calls timeout, there's no guarantee that we can inbound to IT4. We had what we wanted and IT4 is more than capable of finishing either of those plays.

Guys want to play for a coach who trusts them. It is a 2 way street. Stevens showed tonight that he has ABSOLUTE FAITH in his players. It might not have been the right X's and O's move, but I think, culture-wise, it was the correct decision.

Players want to play for coaches like that. Stars want to play for coaches like that.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I've been pacing for the last 45 min so I don't know what people have been saying about end of game/end of 1st OT.  Am I the only one that was screaming "call a TO!!!" in both of those situations with tie game and time for last shot???

Uhhh, not at all. I was SCREAMING it. This one is on Brad, no question. We have no PP, Lebron, or Curry, so we HAVE to set up a play there. Otherwise, you get those two crappy possessions with IT forcing crap.

I am a Stevens fan, but I agree as well.  We are a young team that doesn't have a go to guy.  We need to have the advantage of surprise, and a well executed out of time out play.  I don't know what Brad was thinking.  I mean give us the best chance possible right?

And what makes it worse is Brad has been excellent at drawing up those exact types of plays, too. That was just two absolute missteps by him.

Have you heard what he said in his exit interview? He was asked why he didn't call a timeout and he said they had a pick and roll play set and he wanted the players to run it.

Also, he didn't want the Dubs' defense to get set, because "they're so long, so athletic and they can close out on anyone".

I agree with the no timeout. I just didn't like the shot selection Isaiah took. Apparently there was supposed to be a pick for him and he didn't ask.

[crimson_stallion]

People laugh about Green being a top 8 player

That's because he isn't.

Not even close. Probably not even top 20.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

People laugh about Green being a top 8 player

That's because he isn't.

Not even close. Probably not even top 20.

He's going to be an All-Star. I'm sure he's in the top 20. There's not a lot of players that can do what he can do, on both ends of the court.

[blink]

People laugh about Green being a top 8 player

That's because he isn't.

Not even close. Probably not even top 20.

I don't really care where he falls in top 10 /20 players.  he killed us tonight, and did it over and over again.

[jpotter33]

I've been pacing for the last 45 min so I don't know what people have been saying about end of game/end of 1st OT.  Am I the only one that was screaming "call a TO!!!" in both of those situations with tie game and time for last shot???

Uhhh, not at all. I was SCREAMING it. This one is on Brad, no question. We have no PP, Lebron, or Curry, so we HAVE to set up a play there. Otherwise, you get those two crappy possessions with IT forcing crap.

I am a Stevens fan, but I agree as well.  We are a young team that doesn't have a go to guy.  We need to have the advantage of surprise, and a well executed out of time out play.  I don't know what Brad was thinking.  I mean give us the best chance possible right?

And what makes it worse is Brad has been excellent at drawing up those exact types of plays, too. That was just two absolute missteps by him.

Have you heard what he said in his exit interview? He was asked why he didn't call a timeout and he said they had a pick and roll play set and he wanted the players to run it.

Also, he didn't want the Dubs' defense to get set, because "they're so long, so athletic and they can close out on anyone".

I agree with the no timeout. I just didn't like the shot selection Isaiah took. Apparently there was supposed to be a pick for him and he didn't ask.

They were already going to be set, because there was like 20 seconds left on the clock. The only advantage it would have had is not being able to sub new people in.

And he didn't say he had a play pnr play set, he said "Both times I wanted us to come in and slip out of a pick and roll and just to play." He then said their length was difficult.

By calling a timeout, he could've called a specific screen and got a switch for a favorable matchup. But by freelancing it, you saw the type of shots we got. I can see why you wouldn't call a timeout off of a miss where they push the ball and could score in transition, but there was absolutely no reason to not call one in those instances with that much time left on the clock and not pushing it.

[CelticsFan166]

Can anyone think of the last time the Celtics won one of these epic game-of-the-year upset type games besides Toronto last year? It honestly feels like it hasn't happened since the big 3 years

[SHAQATTACK]

People laugh about Green being a top 8 player

That's because he isn't.

Not even close. Probably not even top 20.

I kinda agree .    He may be the best complimentary player in the league .   I think he has to have greater player s on the court who draw attention and allow him WAY to much room to operate.   

Not sure what he'd do a team without lesser talent .....or decoys to allow him to operate.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

People laugh about Green being a top 8 player

That's because he isn't.

Not even close. Probably not even top 20.

I don't really care where he falls in top 10 /20 players.  he killed us tonight, and did it over and over again.

I want to see the 20 players who are better than he is and I'm not talking about just b/c of their name and what they should be either!

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I've been pacing for the last 45 min so I don't know what people have been saying about end of game/end of 1st OT.  Am I the only one that was screaming "call a TO!!!" in both of those situations with tie game and time for last shot???

Uhhh, not at all. I was SCREAMING it. This one is on Brad, no question. We have no PP, Lebron, or Curry, so we HAVE to set up a play there. Otherwise, you get those two crappy possessions with IT forcing crap.

I am a Stevens fan, but I agree as well.  We are a young team that doesn't have a go to guy.  We need to have the advantage of surprise, and a well executed out of time out play.  I don't know what Brad was thinking.  I mean give us the best chance possible right?

And what makes it worse is Brad has been excellent at drawing up those exact types of plays, too. That was just two absolute missteps by him.

Have you heard what he said in his exit interview? He was asked why he didn't call a timeout and he said they had a pick and roll play set and he wanted the players to run it.

Also, he didn't want the Dubs' defense to get set, because "they're so long, so athletic and they can close out on anyone".

I agree with the no timeout. I just didn't like the shot selection Isaiah took. Apparently there was supposed to be a pick for him and he didn't ask.

They were already going to be set, because there was like 20 seconds left on the clock. The only advantage it would have had is not being able to sub new people in.

And he didn't say he had a play pnr play set, he said "Both times I wanted us to come in and slip out of a pick and roll and just to play." He then said their length was difficult.

By calling a timeout, he could've called a specific screen and got a switch for a favorable matchup. But by freelancing it, you saw the type of shots we got. I can see why you wouldn't call a timeout off of a miss where they push the ball and could score in transition, but there was absolutely no reason to not call one in those instances with that much time left on the clock and not pushing it.

Yeah, that's true, but the Warriors can also shift their personnel to accommodate what we are going to do. They can sub guys and put in their longest, athletic, versatile defenders. Not only that, they could be set even before we inbound the ball.

I guess we agree to disagree. I like the no timeout, don't give the other team a chance to talk over what they're going to do. True, we could have had a set play to run, but so can they. They could have had a chance to put in their best people and defend from a dead ball, in which we have to execute to beat BTW. I guess the problem to solve here is to come up with better plays in the dying minutes that we can run, without calling a timeout.

[jpotter33]

I've been pacing for the last 45 min so I don't know what people have been saying about end of game/end of 1st OT.  Am I the only one that was screaming "call a TO!!!" in both of those situations with tie game and time for last shot???

Uhhh, not at all. I was SCREAMING it. This one is on Brad, no question. We have no PP, Lebron, or Curry, so we HAVE to set up a play there. Otherwise, you get those two crappy possessions with IT forcing crap.

I am a Stevens fan, but I agree as well.  We are a young team that doesn't have a go to guy.  We need to have the advantage of surprise, and a well executed out of time out play.  I don't know what Brad was thinking.  I mean give us the best chance possible right?

And what makes it worse is Brad has been excellent at drawing up those exact types of plays, too. That was just two absolute missteps by him.

Have you heard what he said in his exit interview? He was asked why he didn't call a timeout and he said they had a pick and roll play set and he wanted the players to run it.

Also, he didn't want the Dubs' defense to get set, because "they're so long, so athletic and they can close out on anyone".

I agree with the no timeout. I just didn't like the shot selection Isaiah took. Apparently there was supposed to be a pick for him and he didn't ask.

They were already going to be set, because there was like 20 seconds left on the clock. The only advantage it would have had is not being able to sub new people in.

And he didn't say he had a play pnr play set, he said "Both times I wanted us to come in and slip out of a pick and roll and just to play." He then said their length was difficult.

By calling a timeout, he could've called a specific screen and got a switch for a favorable matchup. But by freelancing it, you saw the type of shots we got. I can see why you wouldn't call a timeout off of a miss where they push the ball and could score in transition, but there was absolutely no reason to not call one in those instances with that much time left on the clock and not pushing it.

Yeah, that's true, but the Warriors can also shift their personnel to accommodate what we are going to do. They can sub guys and put in their longest, athletic, versatile defenders. Not only that, they could be set even before we inbound the ball.

I guess we agree to disagree. I like the no timeout, don't give the other team a chance to talk over what they're going to do. True, we could have had a set play to run, but so can they. They could have had a chance to put in their best people and defend from a dead ball, in which we have to execute BTW. I guess the problem to solve here is to come up with better plays in the dying minutes that we can run, without calling a timeout.

Yeah, you would at least think they would try for the mismatch, just like they were doing with Kelly all night long.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

People laugh about Green being a top 8 player

That's because he isn't.

Not even close. Probably not even top 20.

I kinda agree .    He may be the best complimentary player in the league .   I think he has to have greater player s on the court who draw attention and allow him WAY to much room to operate.   

Not sure what he'd do a team without lesser talent .....or decoys to allow him to operate.

People say that, but Blake has had TOP talent to keep him with space too. No one questions how good he is! You guys can miss me with the people around him talk because he hasn't had the opportunity to prove it otherwise! Guy does everything well and not just tonight! Rebound, defense, shooting/scoring, ASSISTS!! Everything!

[blink]

It would have been interesting if they had run their offense through KO on those last few possessions.  KO had been on fire, and he is a good passer.  We seem to get a bit stagnant with the ball movement sometimes with freelancing or just running pick and roll over and over again.  A lot of standing around watching IT on those last second plays.

[SHAQATTACK]

More growing pains with this game .

But I recall earning tennis as a teen .....I could only get better playing people who were better .
Beating up on lesser player was of little benefit

The good games Celtics played against the two best teams ......really helped their confidence .....they are really close now .

Paul George with AB and Smart would be tuff out against any team on any bodies court .

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

It would have been interesting if they had run their offense through KO on those last few possessions.  KO had been on fire, and he is a good passer.  We seem to get a bit stagnant with the ball movement sometimes with freelancing or just running pick and roll over and over again.  A lot of standing around watching IT on those last second plays.

People are arguing about calling the timeout, my only problem was that IT4 was the only player to touch the ball both times, you can't do that against GSW when they are locked in on last possessions, you have to make them WORK!