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James Young: Future starter?
« on: December 08, 2015, 10:35:45 PM »

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Below are highlights of the best game he played last season (scored 13pts). I'm sure many here remember. 

He raised his intensity at the crucial part of the game.  Nice to see from a rookie. 

He played very good defense last night.  His athleticism and length was apparent. 

He has nice form on his jump shot.  And his bread and butter offensive move could be the dribble, stop and pop. Could be difficult to guard

Is Young that starting SF the Celts have been looking for? (not at this moment, but starting next season for example).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TCOEzsb9wQ

Re: James Young: Future starter?
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2015, 10:38:23 PM »

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James Young has the raw talent to develop into a quality long term starting SF.

Depends on his level of commitment.

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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2015, 10:44:08 PM »

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James Young has the raw talent to develop into a quality long term starting SF.

Depends on his level of commitment.

I agree. He has pretty exceptional length for a sf also.

Is Nic Batum a good comparison?

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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2015, 10:52:25 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2015, 10:55:26 PM »

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I don't really think he is Nic Batum. Batum is a finesse player. James Young seems like more of a strength player.

I like the CJ Miles/Martell Webster comparisons. (CARMELO projections have both as comparisons) Three point shooters, but I think young could be what Webster should have been: a shooter who can use his strength as he drives to the basket.

I also see a little bit of Joe Johnson in him, but even as a young player, Johnson had a much better feel for the game.

Joe Johnson-lite by the time he figures out his role in the NBA. A guy who can shoot the three, post up a bit, drive with strength, and put pressure on the defense from the wing position.

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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2015, 11:02:13 PM »

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geez louise, is there a player that has caused more oscillations and swings on this board...bradley aside?

when drafted so many folks were orgasmic with joy over jimmy. what. a. steal at 17!

first year, the level of disparagement and distain was astounding. he was trash, he was a bust, he was unforgivingly bad. danny screwed up the draft yet again.

earlier this year, the mere mention of his name sent some posters into a tirade, make foam issue from mouths, and abhorrence to spew forth from so many keyboards. some folks, it seems, did not like poor jimmy.  :-\

and now here we are. he is redeemed, he might be the future, he might be an nba player.

cb, always good for interesting swings.  ;D
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2015, 11:04:18 PM »

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When I look at James Young, I see James Worthy.
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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2015, 11:06:44 PM »

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James Young has the raw talent to develop into a quality long term starting SF.

Depends on his level of commitment.

I agree. He has pretty exceptional length for a sf also.

Is Nic Batum a good comparison?

I see James Young as more of a scorer / shooter and a defender.

Batum more as an all-rounder. Rebounding. Ball-handling. Playmaking. As well as great team defense, good man defense and glue guy level scoring. Although, Batum has been scoring more this season than in the past.

I see James Young as a potential 15-18ppg guy. I need to see more shot-creation to put him in the 20+ppg range. I think he is lacking in ball-handling and passing ability. Not a natural rebounder either. More of a two guard rebounding wise than a true SF. But lacks the handle / passing of a SG. More of a SF in that respect. Expecting J.Young to be closer to a solid defender than a high level one.

Not sure who to compare him to given that description.

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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2015, 11:12:36 PM »

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James Young has the raw talent to develop into a quality long term starting SF.

Depends on his level of commitment.

I agree. He has pretty exceptional length for a sf also.

Is Nic Batum a good comparison?

I see James Young as more of a scorer / shooter and a defender.

Batum more as an all-rounder. Rebounding. Ball-handling. Playmaking. As well as great team defense, good man defense and glue guy level scoring. Although, Batum has been scoring more this season than in the past.

I see James Young as a potential 15-18ppg guy. I need to see more shot-creation to put him in the 20+ppg range. I think he is lacking in ball-handling and passing ability. Not a natural rebounder either. More of a two guard rebounding wise than a true SF. But lacks the handle / passing of a SG. More of a SF in that respect. Expecting J.Young to be closer to a solid defender than a high level one.

Not sure who to compare him to given that description.

There is somebody he compares to , I just can't put my finger on it.   

He has good handles. But only going left  right now.  He is a better passer than given credit for.

If he is in a jam or runs into a jam he can make the pass to the open man (hanging in the air or twisting his body , utilizing his length)

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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2015, 11:41:32 PM »

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Two words define James Young right now: Raw and young. I don't think anyone knows for sure what to make of Young right now no matter how many people have already come to the conclusion that the guy is a bust. The man has hardly played and, much like our other younger talented players like Jordan Mickey and Terry Rozier, he won't be able to find much time because there is a plethora of guys on the roster right now who are more proven than he is. I still give it another year atleast until he gets a more serious look.

Last night was a step in the right direction even if at first Young looked bad. I hope that with these injuries, Young can prove himself a little bit more.

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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2015, 11:44:13 PM »

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James Young has the raw talent to develop into a quality long term starting SF.

Depends on his level of commitment.

I agree. He has pretty exceptional length for a sf also.

Is Nic Batum a good comparison?
I agree about commitment but must add 2 more:
 CONFIDENCE- at least the initial confidence to break out and start hitting 3pointers in NBA games. We know he can hit them but even when he is wide open he misses, so I agree with CBS and Danny that it is a mental thing
TIME- As fans we have braved through the worst of James so far but TIME (not even gametime necessarily) will solve many of the issues with his game and body.


I would also like to say that I believe he is a shooting guard. I understand that we have AB and others but he is more of a sg than a sf and even though he has the length to play sf(remeber he has the same length as Zeller) I believe tht if he reaches his potential it would be better for us to have a talented sf that can be big enough to gaurd other top 3's and also be a good passer.

COMPARISON= Klay Thompson. If you look at length and athleticism our boy Young has the edge, but Klay stayed 3 years in college and has a couple years in the league before he broke out......that goes back to my mentioning of TIME

Now think of this. we currently have a very small backcourt...and team in general. But what about this as a 1-3
PG-Marcus Smart
SG-James Young(if he shows out)
SF- Ben Simmons/Brandon Ingram

Now James would have to prove in games that he is the real deal and will keep getting better. But that 1-3 is athletic, quick, big, and can guard multiple positions. In time if James becomes a 2 way player then that would also be a great defensive 1-3. 

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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2015, 12:42:23 AM »

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James Young has the raw talent to develop into a quality long term starting SF.

Depends on his level of commitment.

I agree. He has pretty exceptional length for a sf also.

Is Nic Batum a good comparison?
I agree about commitment but must add 2 more:
 CONFIDENCE- at least the initial confidence to break out and start hitting 3pointers in NBA games. We know he can hit them but even when he is wide open he misses, so I agree with CBS and Danny that it is a mental thing
TIME- As fans we have braved through the worst of James so far but TIME (not even gametime necessarily) will solve many of the issues with his game and body.


I would also like to say that I believe he is a shooting guard. I understand that we have AB and others but he is more of a sg than a sf and even though he has the length to play sf(remeber he has the same length as Zeller) I believe tht if he reaches his potential it would be better for us to have a talented sf that can be big enough to gaurd other top 3's and also be a good passer.

COMPARISON= Klay Thompson. If you look at length and athleticism our boy Young has the edge, but Klay stayed 3 years in college and has a couple years in the league before he broke out......that goes back to my mentioning of TIME

Now think of this. we currently have a very small backcourt...and team in general. But what about this as a 1-3
PG-Marcus Smart
SG-James Young(if he shows out)
SF- Ben Simmons/Brandon Ingram

Now James would have to prove in games that he is the real deal and will keep getting better. But that 1-3 is athletic, quick, big, and can guard multiple positions. In time if James becomes a 2 way player then that would also be a great defensive 1-3.

i dont think young is comparable to thompson
thompson was a much better shot creator

i projected young as more of a spot up 3P shooter that can play decent defence off the bench
he needs more confidence and time as he is still as young as other rookies drafted this year and was never seen as an NBA ready type player coming in to the league

but i also agree with you that he is a SG rather than SF

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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2015, 12:47:26 AM »

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geez louise, is there a player that has caused more oscillations and swings on this board...bradley aside?

when drafted so many folks were orgasmic with joy over jimmy. what. a. steal at 17!

first year, the level of disparagement and distain was astounding. he was trash, he was a bust, he was unforgivingly bad. danny screwed up the draft yet again.

earlier this year, the mere mention of his name sent some posters into a tirade, make foam issue from mouths, and abhorrence to spew forth from so many keyboards. some folks, it seems, did not like poor jimmy.  :-\

and now here we are. he is redeemed, he might be the future, he might be an nba player.

cb, always good for interesting swings.  ;D

i guess young looks bad
because ainge and himself said coming in that he had improved his body and that he was going to show much more improvement

but we havent really seen  that much improvement except for that 1 game
in summer league he barely did any damage

so he didnt meet celtic fans and he's own expectations of this season

however the season is still young and he's is bound to get more playing time in the NBA if there are anymore injuries to our wings

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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2015, 02:36:22 AM »

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I hope he can become as good of a shooter like CJ Miles is for the Pacers. Till then the guy needs to learn how to be more coordinated and learn to score when isolated.

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When I look at James Young, I see James Worthy.

Even at 54, I'd still take Worthy.