Idea: Trade for Covington

[jambr380]

I'd trade Zeller because Covington fills a position of need, is a good-enough 3pt shooter, and has the tools to be a good defender. Philly would possibly be interested in a traditional center to spell Okafor, allowing Noel to play most of his minutes at SF.
I would not trade Turner, he is the far superior player, and will prove to be very valuable to this team when they can't score in the playoffs.

Would probably need to be a three-way trade. I can't imagine Philly would have any interest in Zeller with three traditional centers chosen in the early lottery in the last three years. As for Noel, the Sixers are dying to find him more time at Center, definitely not SF.

[TomHeinsohn]

I'd trade Zeller because Covington fills a position of need, is a good-enough 3pt shooter, and has the tools to be a good defender. Philly would possibly be interested in a traditional center to spell Okafor, allowing Noel to play most of his minutes at SF.
I would not trade Turner, he is the far superior player, and will prove to be very valuable to this team when they can't score in the playoffs.

Would probably need to be a three-way trade. I can't imagine Philly would have any interest in Zeller with three traditional centers chosen in the early lottery in the last three years. As for Noel, the Sixers are dying to find him more time at Center, definitely not SF.

Yes, I meant to say PF. I can't imagine Philly having any actual interest in any players that may make them any better in the short term or improve the losing culture in their locker room. I really dislike Philadelphia..

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That being said I think terry for Covington doesn't make sense because that is a current downgrade.

I presume you mean a downgrade for the Sixers. If so: that's a non-issue, since they don't care to win games in the first place. That's said, Rozier becomes their best backcourt prospect immediately.

Gotta say: I think it's a pretty good deal for both sides.

[TomHeinsohn]

That being said I think terry for Covington doesn't make sense because that is a current downgrade.

I presume you mean a downgrade for the Sixers. If so: that's a non-issue, since they don't care to win games in the first place. That's said, Rozier becomes their best backcourt prospect immediately.

Gotta say: I think it's a pretty good deal for both sides.

I think Wroten Jr. is still an intriguing prospect if he can regain his health.

[Smitty77]

That being said I think terry for Covington doesn't make sense because that is a current downgrade.

I presume you mean a downgrade for the Sixers. If so: that's a non-issue, since they don't care to win games in the first place. That's said, Rozier becomes their best backcourt prospect immediately.

Gotta say: I think it's a pretty good deal for both sides.

I think Wroten Jr. is still an intriguing prospect if he can regain his health.

Wroten is a career 23% three point shooter!!

Smitty77

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That being said I think terry for Covington doesn't make sense because that is a current downgrade.

I presume you mean a downgrade for the Sixers. If so: that's a non-issue, since they don't care to win games in the first place. That's said, Rozier becomes their best backcourt prospect immediately.

Gotta say: I think it's a pretty good deal for both sides.

I think Wroten Jr. is still an intriguing prospect if he can regain his health.

Wroten is a career 23% three point shooter!!

Smitty77

No interest in Wroton

[TomHeinsohn]

That being said I think terry for Covington doesn't make sense because that is a current downgrade.

I presume you mean a downgrade for the Sixers. If so: that's a non-issue, since they don't care to win games in the first place. That's said, Rozier becomes their best backcourt prospect immediately.

Gotta say: I think it's a pretty good deal for both sides.

I think Wroten Jr. is still an intriguing prospect if he can regain his health.

Wroten is a career 23% three point shooter!!

Smitty77

If I were feeling prickly, I would point out the shooting percentages of certain consensus "intriguing prospects" like Elfrid Payton (career 29%), Emmanuel Mudiay (career 25%), or Jerian Grant (career 17%!), but alas, I am not.

[MISSERY]

I'd trade Zeller because Covington fills a position of need, is a good-enough 3pt shooter, and has the tools to be a good defender. Philly would possibly be interested in a traditional center to spell Okafor, allowing Noel to play most of his minutes at SF.
I would not trade Turner, he is the far superior player, and will prove to be very valuable to this team when they can't score in the playoffs.

Would probably need to be a three-way trade. I can't imagine Philly would have any interest in Zeller with three traditional centers chosen in the early lottery in the last three years. As for Noel, the Sixers are dying to find him more time at Center, definitely not SF.

wizards 2nd pick to boston
blair to philly

philly send covington to boston

boston sends jerebko to philly

philly got
jerebko
blair
boston 1st pick

wizards got zeller

boston got corvington and wizards 2nd pick

something like that

[Evantime34]

It's so hard to gauge the value of Sixers players. Often times the numbers are inflated since someone has to take the shots/get the rebounds even if the game is a blow out or the opponent isn't trying since the Sixers are so bad.

For example two years ago I said that Henry Sims isn't an NBA player. Several people on this board said I was being ridiculous because he was putting up solid NBA numbers. Well, he's no longer in the league and is just one of many examples of Sixers players being overrated because of their numbers.

As to Covington, I think I would trade them Zeller and a second or two for him. Rozier might not be putting up good numbers now, but he probably has more long term value/upside. I'm sure people will strongly disagree with this, just like they strongly disagreed me saying Henry Sims was over valued (Covington is obviously way more valuable than Sims but the idea of him being overrated due to increased numbers he wouldn't get on other teams is valid)

The reason I would trade for Covington is because we are weak at his position. Brad Stevens likes to break down positions into four groups, ball handlers, wings, swings and big men. Covington is a swing and really the only other swings we have are Jerebko and Crowder.

[MISSERY]

It's so hard to gauge the value of Sixers players. Often times the numbers are inflated since someone has to take the shots/get the rebounds even if the game is a blow out or the opponent isn't trying since the Sixers are so bad.

For example two years ago I said that Henry Sims isn't an NBA player. Several people on this board said I was being ridiculous because he was putting up solid NBA numbers. Well, he's no longer in the league and is just one of many examples of Sixers players being overrated because of their numbers.

As to Covington, I think I would trade them Zeller and a second or two for him. Rozier might not be putting up good numbers now, but he probably has more long term value/upside. I'm sure people will strongly disagree with this, just like they strongly disagreed me saying Henry Sims was over valued (Covington is obviously way more valuable than Sims but the idea of him being overrated due to increased numbers he wouldn't get on other teams is valid)

The reason I would trade for Covington is because we are weak at his position. Brad Stevens likes to break down positions into four groups, ball handlers, wings, swings and big men. Covington is a swing and really the only other swings we have are Jerebko and Crowder.

philly needs another center?
picks are enough...just add some filler and a 3rd team to add a filler
there will be a team that will jump out and ask to be a 3rd to team to take zeller

[Moranis]

It's so hard to gauge the value of Sixers players. Often times the numbers are inflated since someone has to take the shots/get the rebounds even if the game is a blow out or the opponent isn't trying since the Sixers are so bad.

For example two years ago I said that Henry Sims isn't an NBA player. Several people on this board said I was being ridiculous because he was putting up solid NBA numbers. Well, he's no longer in the league and is just one of many examples of Sixers players being overrated because of their numbers.

As to Covington, I think I would trade them Zeller and a second or two for him. Rozier might not be putting up good numbers now, but he probably has more long term value/upside. I'm sure people will strongly disagree with this, just like they strongly disagreed me saying Henry Sims was over valued (Covington is obviously way more valuable than Sims but the idea of him being overrated due to increased numbers he wouldn't get on other teams is valid)

The reason I would trade for Covington is because we are weak at his position. Brad Stevens likes to break down positions into four groups, ball handlers, wings, swings and big men. Covington is a swing and really the only other swings we have are Jerebko and Crowder.

fair point there, but Covington is a pretty efficient player offensively and he is a pretty darn good defender.  Those are skills that will translate to good teams.  One of the reasons I'm also higher on Thompson than most is because he is an excellent three point shooter and you just don't lose that going to a good team (in fact you usually improve that playing with better players). 

Sims didn't really have the advanced stats i.e. RB% was under 14 his last year, shot under 50% for a big man that played mostly down low, etc.  You could see he was just getting stats because he was playing.  I don't think that is the case with Covington.  He seems to have a real skill set.

[Moranis]

Unless Philly gets blown away they aren't trading Covington.  He is clearly a guy they like, plays at a position of need, and has an excellent contract. 

[Evantime34]

Unless Philly gets blown away they aren't trading Covington.  He is clearly a guy they like, plays at a position of need, and has an excellent contract.

Do you consider him a 3 or a 4? I see him as more of a 4 but with Embiid, Okafor, Nerlens and Saric all going to be on the team in the future, two of those players are going to need to play the 4. The first 3 picks in this years draft will also probably be 4's in the NBA.

I see guards as a lot bigger position of need than swingmen.

[MISSERY]

Unless Philly gets blown away they aren't trading Covington.  He is clearly a guy they like, plays at a position of need, and has an excellent contract.

Do you consider him a 3 or a 4? I see him as more of a 4 but with Embiid, Okafor, Nerlens and Saric all going to be on the team in the future, two of those players are going to need to play the 4. The first 3 picks in this years draft will also probably be 4's in the NBA.

I see guards as a lot bigger position of need than swingmen.

i think philly is no need for zeller
and we need more guards/forwards
while philly got a lot of bigs

so you need a team that badly needs a big that will take zeller
its benefits zeller because he will get playing time for sure

is philly trading covington for a pick? and a dump players...yes
if they think they can draft a good small forward next year

[Eddie20]

Classic example of a player putting up stats on a bad team. While his averages look good. Take a closer look at some more in depth stats.

FG% 40.3
3PT% 33.7
TO's 3.5 (compared to 2.1 APG)
Offensive Rating 92
PER 15


FG% (broken down)
3-10 FT 23.5%
10-16 FT 33.3%
16-3PT 50%....so he actually excels in the worst shot in basketball, the long 2.