This conversation is so tired. It all comes down to the fact that we still don't know anything. We don't know how Okafor or Noel will develop or what their true value is on the trade market. We don't know if Embiid will play or when Saric will come over or how good either will be when/if they hit the court. We don't know who the team will draft this year or even how many top 5 picks they might have (I'm still hoping LA gets leapt by a couple of teams and we see that pick go to Philly).
This is neither good nor bad it just makes anyone making declarative statements about Hinkie's performance in Philly so far look kind of silly in my eyes. Especially those calling his plan a failure when you have no idea how it'll turn out.
Exactly. TP. It remains to be seen if Philly's plan failed. It still may prove to be a failure. It still may prove to be a success. Just have to wait and see.
Yeah, okay but that's still missing the point.
As a GM of an NBA team, a MAJOR part of your job is keeping your billionaire owner happy. A major part of your job is recognizing what your owner will and won't approve of. Failing to recognize that and reconcile that, is as much as failure for an NBA GM as anything that happens on the court, because both can cost you your job.
What your failing to realize here is that Hinkie's "process" wasn't a wrong headed approach. If you've got the stomach to take it, it's as good of an idea as almost any to become contenders. But you can follow Hinkie's approach without fielding a team of d-leaguers or drafting three centers in a row. Better yet, you can do something very similar to Hinkie (See:Minnesota), and still maintain a measure of competitiveness and be able to point towards tangible progress toward the future. I'd much rather be Minnesota right now.
Except in certain academic circles (including CB Forums), Hinkie's process failed just be pure virtue of being unable to complete it. If Colangelo turns that team into a contender in 3 years, Colangelo will get credit for building a team out of the ashes of the Hinkie era. Gaining all those assets means very little to you if your not around to capitalize on them. The fact they marginalized Hinkie to the point of writing that ridiculous 13 page resignation later is proof enough that "The Process" was a failure.
Yet, that doesn't make Hinkie's plan a wrong headed one. That doesn't mean the things he did for Philly won't be helpful in the future, thus providing fruits to the pains of outright suckery. But it does mean that ignoring the human aspect that goes into building a franchise (fan base, ownership, environment, identity, press relations, agent relations, etc.) and treating this like a fantasy basketball league is a poor decision. Is the premise sound? Sure. But is the result sound? No. After three years they should have seen more progress than this. You can't just flip a switch and be good, it takes years for a team to gel and build chemistry around a core, especially if your building through the draft. You can't validate "The Process" if your not the person who builds a contender.
Results are the bottom line in this league. Ironically, that's the premise behind Hinkie's whole strategy. But that sword cuts both ways. If your three years into a rebuild and your team is still historically bad with no semblance of an NBA roster, your results will matter. Hinkie will be judged on what he did in his time there, not by what the Colangelo's do with what he's left behind. Right or wrong.