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How awesome.

Would have been nice to have him back for the Golden State game as the article says. Too bad.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/12/03/celtics-ainge-no-one-more-competitive-than-marcus-smart/

“He’s in working out doing his therapy. I don’t know a timetable. He is the only one to know when his leg is completely healed, but the good news is there’s no surgery needed,” said Ainge. “It’s like a bad sprain and he just needs time go get healthy.

“I’m not sure there is more of a competitor than Marcus. He wants to play and he loves to play, and that’s why his teammates love him so much. He plays at such a different level, and maybe that’s why he’s been hurt a few times already,” added Ainge.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.

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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2015, 07:54:18 PM »

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Ugh... well if AB stays hot then the C's can weather the storm

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Ugh... well if AB stays hot then the C's can weather the storm
true, but i have to confess that one of the things i enjoy watching in a celtics game nowadays is smart on defense. the effort, the intelligence are a joy to watch.

he really is a shorter version of KG.
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Speaking of SportsHub appearances, Wyc was on Felger and Mazz today. Had some pretty good, honest stuff. Recommended (podcast below).

http://download.podcast.play.it/media/d0/d0/d1/dA/d8/dZ/dI/1A8ZI_3.MP3?show=Felger+%26+Massarotti&category=Sports+%26+Recreation&callsign=WBZFM&market=Boston&awCollectionId=1096&awEpisodeId=567455
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I'm not surprised, and it could be much longer.

This was my post on November 21st in the "Why can't Smart Stay Healthy" thread:

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This new report on Smart concerns me GREATLY.

Bad news on both Turner and Smart on front page.

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The results of the MRIs and extent of the damage to their knees is unknown. Medical personnel fear damage to Turner's meniscus and poplitel tendon and a tibiofibular subluxation for Smart, according to the source.


Turner's injury is concerning. Smart's more so. The phrasing "at least two games" is especially alarming!!  I dug the below stuff up. Not sure it pertains directly to Smart, but I think so.

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TREATMENT OF PROXIMAL TIBIOFIBULAR JOINT INSTABILITY

The treatment of proximal tibiofibular joint instability usually depends upon whether it is an acute or chronic injury. In acute cases, we have found that immobilization in a brace in full extension for 3 weeks is often very effective to allow the posterior proximal tibiofibular joint ligament tear to scar in sufficiently such that there is no instability. However, in chronic cases, immobilization would not be sufficient to achieve this goal. Thus, Dr. LaPrade and his team have developed an anatomic proximal posterior tibiofibular joint reconstruction procedure. We have found it to be very effective at restoring stability to this joint and not resulting in joint overconstraint. In the past, while others have often treated this instability of this joint by fusing it, we have reported through research that a proximal posterior tibiofibular joint ligament reconstruction is easily performed, does not overconstrain the joint and has decreased the chance of leading to ankle pathology further down the line.

In addition, we frequently perform a common peroneal nerve neurolysis concurrent with the ligament reconstruction to release the scar tissue around the common peroneal nerve so that any further nerve irritation will not occur after surgery due to postoperative swelling or scar tissue entrapment.

POST-OP

Patients who undergo this reconstruction are kept on crutches for 6 weeks with no to minimal weight-bearing movement, but are allowed full range of motion. After 6 weeks postoperatively, patients may start to use a stationary bike with low resistance. We anticipate that our patients will return back to full activities about 4-5 months after surgery, following the rehabilitation program.

http://drrobertlaprademd.com/proximal-tibiofibular-ligament-instability

WTH!

Acute or chronic, bad news either way.

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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2015, 09:07:38 PM »

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this is the only thing I don't like about marcus, and it is an issue. sounds like a guy who is never going to play a full season, which means we likely wouldn't even get much in a trade for him.

so if he's not going to be able to be a full time player, let's have 'em ready for the playoffs.

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I love Smart's competitiveness and fire, but if he can come back strong from his injury and have a solid year, it may be time to cash in before injuries [possibly] derail his career. I think he will play effectively in the league for a long time, but it's getting kind-of annoying having him out for such extended periods of time.

Figures, he is our big injury this year - he was the only player I absolutely wanted to stay healthy for development and for our team success.

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I love Smart's competitiveness and fire, but if he can come back strong from his injury and have a solid year, it may be time to cash in before injuries [possibly] derail his career. I think he will play effectively in the league for a long time, but it's getting kind-of annoying having him out for such extended periods of time.

Figures, he is our big injury this year - he was the only player I absolutely wanted to stay healthy for development and for our team success.
I'm not optimistic he'll develop into anything more than a defensive role player.   He's an excellent defender.  I could see him coming off the bench years from now for some contender.  But usually those guys can shoot a little. 

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Ugh... well if AB stays hot then the C's can weather the storm
true, but i have to confess that one of the things i enjoy watching in a celtics game nowadays is smart on defense. the effort, the intelligence are a joy to watch.

he really is a shorter version of KG.
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I love Smart's competitiveness and fire, but if he can come back strong from his injury and have a solid year, it may be time to cash in before injuries [possibly] derail his career. I think he will play effectively in the league for a long time, but it's getting kind-of annoying having him out for such extended periods of time.

Figures, he is our big injury this year - he was the only player I absolutely wanted to stay healthy for development and for our team success.

Def, just like Golden State did with Curry and his ankles...  :o

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I love Smart's competitiveness and fire, but if he can come back strong from his injury and have a solid year, it may be time to cash in before injuries [possibly] derail his career. I think he will play effectively in the league for a long time, but it's getting kind-of annoying having him out for such extended periods of time.

Figures, he is our big injury this year - he was the only player I absolutely wanted to stay healthy for development and for our team success.
I'm not optimistic he'll develop into anything more than a defensive role player.   He's an excellent defender.  I could see him coming off the bench years from now for some contender.  But usually those guys can shoot a little.

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I love Smart's competitiveness and fire, but if he can come back strong from his injury and have a solid year, it may be time to cash in before injuries [possibly] derail his career. I think he will play effectively in the league for a long time, but it's getting kind-of annoying having him out for such extended periods of time.

Figures, he is our big injury this year - he was the only player I absolutely wanted to stay healthy for development and for our team success.
I'm not optimistic he'll develop into anything more than a defensive role player.   He's an excellent defender.  I could see him coming off the bench years from now for some contender.  But usually those guys can shoot a little. 
fixed it for clarity

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I love Smart's competitiveness and fire, but if he can come back strong from his injury and have a solid year, it may be time to cash in before injuries [possibly] derail his career. I think he will play effectively in the league for a long time, but it's getting kind-of annoying having him out for such extended periods of time.

Figures, he is our big injury this year - he was the only player I absolutely wanted to stay healthy for development and for our team success.
I'm not optimistic he'll develop into anything more than a defensive role player.   He's an excellent defender.  I could see him coming off the bench years from now for some contender.  But usually those guys can shoot a little. 
fixed it for clarity

Hahahahaha, funniest post I've ever seen in my life.
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I love Smart's competitiveness and fire, but if he can come back strong from his injury and have a solid year, it may be time to cash in before injuries [possibly] derail his career. I think he will play effectively in the league for a long time, but it's getting kind-of annoying having him out for such extended periods of time.

Figures, he is our big injury this year - he was the only player I absolutely wanted to stay healthy for development and for our team success.
I'm not optimistic he'll develop into anything more than a defensive role player.   He's an excellent defender.  I could see him coming off the bench years from now for some contender.  But usually those guys can shoot a little. 
fixed it for clarity

Hahahahaha, funniest post I've ever seen in my life.

I agree. That made me laugh. TP, slam.