Why don't you factor in Danny gave Mickey pretty much a 1st round contract ?
And by "first round contract" you mean he gave him a luxurious contract for a 2nd rounder? Sure he gave him a rich contract for the spot, but compared to a first rounder, not really. Sullinger and the others still make about 1.5 to 2X as much as Mickey does. That's not first-rounder contract.
And just because Danny gave him that contract does not spell out "This kid is going to be a contributor right away". It spells out "This kid is going to be a good contributor for us down the road." I am NOT arguing whether or not Mickey is going to be good, triboy. I believe he will, but right now, is he going to be a contributor, nope, and I feel like I've explained why.
You are sort of running in circles and are stating that Mickey is not getting mins because there are "vets" ahead of him. Not because he is not capable.
I am saying BECAUSE the vets are playing in front of him shows that Mickey isn't capable. If Mickey was as good as you say he is, Brad would play the kid, but he's not playing. Hence, brad clearly sees the vets as better right now. Regardless of how you feel. And I trust Brad's judgment more than I trust yours.
Hunter got mins because AB was out a few games ago. Do you see him getting much run these days?
I don't know. It's not up to me. It's up to the coach. And Hunter wasn't perfect but he impressed me at times. See if I made a claim right now that Hunter's the Celtics future shooting guard, then guess what? There would be more basis for my claim for Hunter than yours for Mickey because Hunter's actually played NBA minutes. Mickey has not.
I know CBS knows what he is doing, but there is also this "got to give due to the vets" aspect.
Oh really? Is that why he played Gerald Wallace so much last year?
Now asking me if I agree with this is another topic. Danny acquired these vets and they are getting paid big bucks. Did he know Mickey was going to be this decent? probably not and took the safe way by grabbing guys like Lee and keeping Jerebko. Mickey is already a much better defender than Lee and provides shot blocking that Jerebko can't. He can also drive by bigger guys and finish around the rim in comparison.
But what proof is there that Mickey is that guy that you say he is? You have none other than your gut feeling. I've already explained to you that SL, pre-season, and NBDL mean nothing because scrubs have dominated those leagues and have done nothing. There is no proof that Mickey is better than anyone and it goes back to my original point that if he was, the coach would play him. You even told me once that if the rookies were good enough, Brad would play them.
I understand the "game" that we are paying vets money and can't play the rookie. But to say Mickey is not ready is false. I have confidence if given a chance, he can contribute and not be a negative on the court.
Correction, that
could be false, but there is nothing that proves that Mickey is ready now. All of what you are saying strictly-opinion based. The matter of fact is, Jordan Mickey has played almost the entirety of the season in Maine. It's abundantly clear you put stock into SL and pre-season. I put stock into what happens in the regular season, and so far, the regular season has shown me that the Celtics don't think Mickey is ready. I'm glad that you're confident in the kid, but until I truly see that from him during real NBA minutes, I'll hold my breath.
I want you to know that I absolutely believe Jordan Mickey was a great pick and that he definitely has a future on the Celtics, but I don't believe that we will see much of what he can do this year. Not because he doesn't have the potential to be good, but because at the moment, we have bigs on the team who are more experienced and can do more for the team now.
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