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Re: Boston Spurs
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2015, 04:36:24 AM »

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Spurs comparisons are delving into the inferiority complex zone.

If a comparison is to be made, make it to the Celtics' foundation as a franchise.

But this whole "Boston Spurs" idea just screams inferiority complex. We're the winningest franchise in the NBA, let's act like it.

Let me contend then, that the Brad Stevens Celtics are a reincarnation of Tommy Heinsohns 1970s run and gun Celtics.
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Re: Boston Spurs
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2015, 06:36:05 AM »

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Let me contend then, that the Brad Stevens Celtics are a reincarnation of Tommy Heinsohns 1970s run and gun Celtics.

They make play that style but we have no Dave Cowens,  or Hondo.   Those guys were All Stars.   I think you are selling the  70's team short.   Be honest, are you old enough to recall those teams.   I am guessing not with your comment.

Re: Boston Spurs
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2015, 07:48:46 AM »

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Let me contend then, that the Brad Stevens Celtics are a reincarnation of Tommy Heinsohns 1970s run and gun Celtics.

They make play that style but we have no Dave Cowens,  or Hondo.   Those guys were All Stars.   I think you are selling the  70's team short.   Be honest, are you old enough to recall those teams.   I am guessing not with your comment.

Yeah... I don't think anyone is calling for this team to be as good and skilled as those teams.

Re: Boston Spurs
« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2015, 08:15:54 AM »

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Did anybody consider Kawhi Leonard a star before the Spurs won the title and he won Finals MVP?
That's because he wasn't, by any objective measure. It's not team success that made him, it was his increased role.

Did anybody consider Korver or Teague stars before the Hawks emerged as one of the dominant teams last season?
No. And they still don't (consider them stars, that is). Especially Korver. But I'm guessing you just have to put someone on the ASG ballot, so there's that.

Was anybody considering Deandre Jordan a star before Chris Paul showed up and turned the Clippers into a Western Conference force?
See notes on Kawhi Leonard.

Would Draymond Green be considered anything more than a good role player if the Warriors never came out and dominated the way they did last year?
Still not really sure why anyone considers Draymond Green anything other than a good role player. I'm guessing is the huge contract, and the unhealthy fixation that some of the CB residence had on signing him.
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Re: Boston Spurs
« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2015, 08:20:23 AM »

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But sometimes, your comments betray you. A ten game streak is fairly consistent. It is 1/8 of a season, or about 16%. It is not a full season, but it is significant. It's not a one-game fluke. It's not a two game fluke. We have played 4 really good games recently, and won them with most of our players shooting below their career averages.
Yet, you're a "2 game fluke" away from being a .500 team. That's how small the sample is. Last season at that time, we were on pace to be a 32-win team. So yeah... it's significant as long as you allow for a +/- 10-game margin of error, or something.
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Re: Boston Spurs
« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2015, 08:22:26 AM »

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Duncan? Parker? Leonard?

If you look at their Per-36 numbers:

* Amir Johnson (13 pts, 9 reb, 2 ast, 1.8 blk, 57% FG, 69% FT) has been [dang] near just as effective as Tim Duncan (15 pts, 11 reb, 3 ast, 2.1 blk, 54% FG, 75% FT).

* Isaiah Thomas (25 pts, 7.5 ast, 2.5 reb, 42% FG, 36% 3PT, 86% FT) has been at least on par with Tony Parker (16 pts, 5.1 ast, 2.2 reb, 53% FG, 66% 3PT, 78% FT) once you factor in Parker's unsustainably high percentages.

* Jared Sullinger (16 pts, 13 reb, 3 ast, 1.9 stl, 1.5 blk, 48% FG, 38% 3PT, 67% FT) has been at least on par with Lamarcus Aldridge (18 pts, 11 reb, 2 ast, 0.2 stl, 0.9 blk, 44% FG, 0% 3PT, 86% FT).

The one guy we don't have a match for is Leonard.  We are essentially one Kawhi Leonard away from being on par with the Spurs.
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