RJH ..what a steal

[Alleyoopster]

Let the Nets have RHJ, We will keep RJH 

For those who don't know who RHJ is, e.g., me...  a link to Draft Express on him. 
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Rondae-Hollis-Jefferson-6466/

[mef730]

Let the Nets have RHJ, We will keep RJH 

Funny you post that, I got halfway into the thread before realizing that this thread had nothing to do with a rookie on the Nets. From the seven games I've seen him playing in (ie, not a statistically significant sample), he also looks like a steal.

Mike

[chambers]

He looks great but his shooting percentages are still terrible.
I'll give him a good year to get his NBA range confidence going but his numbers haven't been impressive so far.
Hate to be a debbie downer because I love the kid and ultimately he'll succeed. I would love him to replace Bradley- Hunter's not quick but he's smart and has length to become and stay a solid defender.

Everything is great with this kid. His vision, IQ, anticipation, 'gimme the ball' aggression on the court - his dribbling is very solid and he has real potential as an NBA wing.
 
I'm just being very patient with his shooting- he's been awesome at everything except the main reason he was drafted......

[SHAQATTACK]

he makes Young expendable.

I hope he makes Bradley expendable -- especially if we finally move Smart to the 2.

As much as I like AB , I kinda like this theme too..  I think Hunter brings better overall defense because of his length , better fort vision   More IQ and eventually a better jump shot .  Not mention he is a nice rebounder for his size.

Have to keep an eye Hunter .....if he keeps improving .....won't be able to keep this kid on the bench .....kinda like Sully ......too much talent to sit on the bench.,

[Jon]

Not only would I caution people to pump the breaks on R.J. Hunter, since he's yet to actually do anything of note in the NBA, I'd ask the question of what exactly we define as a "steal." 

Does a steal mean that he's a future All Star, a future starter, or a nice rotational piece?  I ask only because the term has been used very loosely around here in the past and put on guys ranging from Ryan Gomes, to Big Baby, to Leon Powe, to E'Twaun Moore, to Jared Sulliger (to name a few).  And while all at least had/have OK NBA careers, none has yet to amount to anything more than a nice rotational piece at best that ultimately was deemed by DA to be pretty expendable. 

And yes, Hunter seems to have some savvy and a feel for the game that many youngsters don't, but people said the same thing about Ryan Gomes.

So I ask in all sincerity, what constitutes a "steal."  Because a lot of the players that were "steals" for us in the past never really amounted to anything all that significant for us in the long run. 

[fairweatherfan]

Not only would I caution people to pump the breaks on R.J. Hunter, since he's yet to actually do anything of note in the NBA, I'd ask the question of what exactly we define as a "steal." 

Does a steal mean that he's a future All Star, a future starter, or a nice rotational piece?  I ask only because the term has been used very loosely around here in the past and put on guys ranging from Ryan Gomes, to Big Baby, to Leon Powe, to E'Twaun Moore, to Jared Sulliger (to name a few).  And while all at least had/have OK NBA careers, none has yet to amount to anything more than a nice rotational piece at best that ultimately was deemed by DA to be pretty expendable. 

And yes, Hunter seems to have some savvy and a feel for the game that many youngsters don't, but people said the same thing about Ryan Gomes.

So I ask in all sincerity, what constitutes a "steal."  Because a lot of the players that were "steals" for us in the past never really amounted to anything all that significant for us in the long run.

A steal means a player who should've been drafted a lot higher than he was based on his ability to contribute.  I agree that people break it out too quickly, but Gomes for example was the #50 pick - getting a pick who can contribute to a rotation to any extent at that spot is generally going to be considered a steal.  Gomes was mediocre at best but a mediocre NBA player is a heck of a get at #50.  That's the general idea.

[Jon]

Not only would I caution people to pump the breaks on R.J. Hunter, since he's yet to actually do anything of note in the NBA, I'd ask the question of what exactly we define as a "steal." 

Does a steal mean that he's a future All Star, a future starter, or a nice rotational piece?  I ask only because the term has been used very loosely around here in the past and put on guys ranging from Ryan Gomes, to Big Baby, to Leon Powe, to E'Twaun Moore, to Jared Sulliger (to name a few).  And while all at least had/have OK NBA careers, none has yet to amount to anything more than a nice rotational piece at best that ultimately was deemed by DA to be pretty expendable. 

And yes, Hunter seems to have some savvy and a feel for the game that many youngsters don't, but people said the same thing about Ryan Gomes.

So I ask in all sincerity, what constitutes a "steal."  Because a lot of the players that were "steals" for us in the past never really amounted to anything all that significant for us in the long run.

A steal means a player who should've been drafted a lot higher than he was based on his ability to contribute.  I agree that people break it out too quickly, but Gomes for example was the #50 pick - getting a pick who can contribute to a rotation to any extent at that spot is generally going to be considered a steal.  Gomes was mediocre at best but a mediocre NBA player is a heck of a get at #50.  That's the general idea.

I agree.  I just think some people mean more than that--or at the very least are acting more excitedly than they should be about a "steal" whose upside might be a mediocre NBA player. 

[manl_lui]

sorry if this ends up offending people

RJHunter makes me optimistic, and also makes me want to get rid of Young...thing is, Young almost has no value...Would people even give us a 2nd rounder for Young?

[knuckleballer]

sorry if this ends up offending people

RJHunter makes me optimistic, and also makes me want to get rid of Young...thing is, Young almost has no value...Would people even give us a 2nd rounder for Young?

Someone probably would, but I don't see the point of just getting rid of Young.  He's still the youngest guy on the team.  They might as well hold onto him and hope things eventually click for him.

[The One]

Let the Nets have RHJ, We will keep RJH 

Now my head is spinning...

[The One]

sorry if this ends up offending people

RJHunter makes me optimistic, and also makes me want to get rid of Young...thing is, Young almost has no value...Would people even give us a 2nd rounder for Young?

Someone probably would, but I don't see the point of just getting rid of Young.  He's still the youngest guy on the team.  They might as well hold onto him and hope things eventually click for him.

We should keep Young...the 1st of the draft pick haul from the Nets.

He's still learning and growing.

[Tr1boy]

RJ Hunter highlights from last night. The way he comes off /curls around screens and shoots reminds me of Reggie miller. Scal impressed


http://youtu.be/BhXc1t6SMF4

[Atzar]

Knew the kid could shoot coming out of college.  That's not a surprise to me.

What I am pleasantly surprised by is his "fit", for lack of a better word.  So often we've watched rookies come in, get forced into playing time, and clearly have no real role on the court - they play defense and then they go stand in the corner on offense.  Only out there to absorb minutes to give a better player a breather.

RJ, though, is clearly a part of the plan already.  He has awareness on defense that I really didn't expect him to have yet - he misses occasional assignments like any rookie, but I'm very encouraged by his overall performance on that end of the court.  On offense, he looks like he belongs here.  Moves without the ball, teammates set screens for him and look to get him the ball.  He's already part of the scheme.  Stevens deserves some credit for this as well, but Hunter's feel for the game is not typical of a rookie. 

[Evantime34]

Loved the pick when we drafted him. That and the Mickey pick cheered me up after I was p---ed they went with Rozier (I've since talked myself into Rozier).

What I didn't realize about Hunter is he is really an all around player. On draft night if you told me he was 1-6 from 3 thus far in the season I would have thought that he had provided no value, but that is the furthest thing from the truth.

[mef730]

sorry if this ends up offending people

RJHunter makes me optimistic, and also makes me want to get rid of Young...thing is, Young almost has no value...Would people even give us a 2nd rounder for Young?

Someone probably would, but I don't see the point of just getting rid of Young.  He's still the youngest guy on the team.  They might as well hold onto him and hope things eventually click for him.

We should keep Young...the 1st of the draft pick haul from the Nets.

He's still learning and growing.

Sounds like a souvenir: "Now, here kids, is the James Young that I bought with those draft picks that the Nets gave us for our birthday a couple of years ago. It's really special to me because it's a reminder of all the good times I had with Brooklyn. I'm gonna store it in the attic where it will be a much better souvenir than all the other junk I have up there. It's not very valuable, and I don't know if I'll ever put it up in the living room, but I could never give it away. It's just got too much meaning to me."

Mike