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Re: Smart Vs. Randle
« Reply #105 on: March 18, 2016, 11:01:53 AM »

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I've half given up on his offense to be honest. Seems like one step forward two steps back all the time.

Even if the worst happens though, he'll have a fine career as a super-versatile elite defender, and Randle or anyone else we could have drafted is nowhere near good enough for me to think we made a mistake.

No reason for this. Crowder too was considered a below average 3p shooter before this season. This year, not only has his 3p% gone up, he also shoots a lot more.

Shooting can always improve.

Drives/playing near the rim will be harder to fix, but Smart's frame gives me hope.

Also consider that Smart's OBPM is disappointing but not terrible: -0.1 for last season and -0.2 for this season. Based on the comments I read here I was expecting something closer to -2.0  ;D
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Re: Smart Vs. Randle
« Reply #106 on: March 18, 2016, 11:14:29 AM »

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It's too bad Aaron Gordon didn't drop to us.  That is who I wanted

Smart has been solid when given the chance to play his natural position or SG

please don't play him as a SF. 

Re: Smart Vs. Randle
« Reply #107 on: March 18, 2016, 11:35:50 AM »

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How about Smart VS Randle and Russell?

Add Ingram/Simmons to Clarkson and it's hard not to admire the Lakers core moving forward.

Not quite what Minnesota has, especially if they grab another stud, but a decent young core that will soon be a destination for free agents after Kobe retires.

They also got a lot of good PR this year with the Kobe tour, and him convincing the world that he actually wasn't a villian, which sugar coated their garbage season.

Pretty lucky to sell out games all year while tanking hard, and earning everyone's respect along the way.

Here's to hoping they bomb in the draft!  ;D
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Re: Smart Vs. Randle
« Reply #108 on: March 18, 2016, 11:58:38 AM »

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If people aren't concerned about Smart yet, than they really need to take off the green goggles. Why are the Marcus Smart lovers ignoring that he is worse than last year?

Randle is averaging a double double for the year, and is shooting 48% his last ten games. Please remember he is also in his rookie year coming off major surgery...
Smart is not worse than last year. Everyone should be concerned with his excessive 3 point shots but that's a common theme with this team. They all take untimely 3s.

As for Randle being the focus point in the paint for your team means you get yours more often. He's still not a good defender and he's still not a great passer. Also how come you use his injury as an excuse and not Smart's? Randle has had one major injury, smart a series of significant injuries and lingering pains. It's very clear that early this season his shooting form was off due to his recovery from the dislocated finger.

As I've said already, this debate is incredibly premature as neither have shown the leap forward teams hope for. After their 3rd years I'd hope to have a much clearer picture of where the two are heading

Okay dude, if you say so. I think Randle will make a jump next year and we will see how Smart improves. Also, you can't compare the two players injuries. For god sakes, Randle couldn't play basketball until this summer, literally. Smart played 67 games last year and he has played 47 so far. Smart has had time to really work on his shot too. I really didn't get your injury point. Completely different circumstances. And please stop using the 3's as an excuse dude. Rozier doesn't jack up threes when he plays. He drives, and so does Isiah Thomas. Same with Turner. Take the green goggles off and come to terms with the fact that he lacks finishing ability, as well as a first step.
I can definitely use Smart's injury to say that his rhythm would have been affected. That's not unreasonable.

With the 3s, what about Sully the last few years before this? Or Crowder, who hasn't always lit it up behind the line? Granted Smart is the worst culprit for it, I won't deny that, but he isn't the only one that has been at fault there.

He does lack finishing ability, he does have weaknesses. He also has strengths. I don't think I've ever seen someone as tenacious as him. The way he can just rip the ball out of someone's hands is incredible. His positioning when the opponent drives is fantastic.

Randle has been doing well but he's still what he was projected to be, someone who can bully down low and rebound but has little offensive game outside of that and is a weak defender.

I'd bet a lot that Smart will be an All-Star before Randle. Smart will work hard on his weaknesses, either his 3 point shot or his finishing at the rim will be much better next year. Randle I don't see ever becoming a good defender so he will always rely on his offense to carry him

Re: Smart Vs. Randle
« Reply #109 on: March 18, 2016, 12:12:18 PM »

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I've half given up on his offense to be honest. Seems like one step forward two steps back all the time.

Even if the worst happens though, he'll have a fine career as a super-versatile elite defender, and Randle or anyone else we could have drafted is nowhere near good enough for me to think we made a mistake.

No reason for this. Crowder too was considered a below average 3p shooter before this season. This year, not only has his 3p% gone up, he also shoots a lot more.

Shooting can always improve.

Drives/playing near the rim will be harder to fix, but Smart's frame gives me hope.

Also consider that Smart's OBPM is disappointing but not terrible: -0.1 for last season and -0.2 for this season. Based on the comments I read here I was expecting something closer to -2.0  ;D

I mean, anything can happen. 30-year-old Kris Humphries added a corner three to his game last summer. You can't ever completely close the door on improvement.

That said, Smart hasn't been showing progression in his offensive game at all this year. If anything, he's regressed in terms of shooting. We've seen little snippets of hope here and there  but it never seems to last longer than 4-5 games at a time. I'm sure his offense won't always be historically bad like it is right now, but if the hope is for him to become an above-average offensive guard in the NBA, he's significantly behind schedule at this point.


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