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Mickey, Young to Red Claws
« on: November 03, 2015, 07:52:03 PM »

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James Young just got beat  by Rozier AND Hunter for a roster spot. James Young = good as gone.

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Re: Mickey, Young to Red Claws
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2015, 08:02:37 PM »

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Good as gone? Okay then  ::)

Re: Mickey, Young to Red Claws
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2015, 08:07:38 PM »

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James Young = younger than Rozier and Hunter.


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Re: Mickey, Young to Red Claws
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2015, 08:07:45 PM »

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duplicate, delete


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Re: Mickey, Young to Red Claws
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2015, 08:18:18 PM »

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James Young = younger than Rozier and Hunter.

Yes, but the Celtics have Hunter and Rozier under team control for longer.  So the clock is ticking on Mr. Young to figure it out.

Re: Mickey, Young to Red Claws
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2015, 08:22:20 PM »

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Re: Mickey, Young to Red Claws
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2015, 08:25:24 PM »

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James Young just got beat  by Rozier AND Hunter for a roster spot. James Young = good as gone.

This is anything but surprising.

Rozier and Hunter are already better players than James Young - and not just by a little bit.

James Young in his current for is absolutely, completely, 100% useless as an NBA player.  If he has absolutely any value / use at all it is as a 'stash away' prospect, with the hope that he will one day come out of nowhere and wow us.

Best place for somebody like that is the Red Claws, since there is 0 chance of him giving us any production in games that actually count.

Rozier and Hunter on the other hand have already shown that they can be productive against NBA-level talent (even if it's low level NBA talent).  That instantly propels them above Young in the rotation, and justifies giving them a roster spot.

I am 99.99% certain that Mickey is well above Young in the current rotation as well, and that he would be on the active roster if not for our current issues with frontcourt over-population.

 

Re: Mickey, Young to Red Claws
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2015, 09:07:37 PM »

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James Young = younger than Rozier and Hunter.

No disrespect intended, but that is an argument that is still no more compelling/convincing now than it was the first 10 million times it was used.

It's true that if all else is equal (talent level, skill level, motor, etc), then the younger of two players going to be the one with the higher potential. 

The unfortunate part for Young is the part in bold because right now all is not equal - and when all is not equal, talent/skill/motor beats youth every time.

So far RJ Hunter, Terry Rozier and Jordan Mickey have all shown far greater talent, skill and motor than Young has, despite the fact that Young has the advantage of one year of NBA experience.  As long as that continues to be the case, Young's status as a Celtic will continue to be threatened.   

Sure Young might be the most qualified when it comes to teaching the vets about the latest electronic gadgets / social media techniques, but sadly that isn't enough to earn a spot on an NBA roster. 

If he hasn't proven that he can contribute at an NBA level by mid-season, then there is a very real possibility that he might not survive the trade deadline...or that he might find himself permanently lost in the D-League.   

Re: Mickey, Young to Red Claws
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2015, 09:21:38 PM »

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James Young = younger than Rozier and Hunter.
So far RJ Hunter, Terry Rozier and Jordan Mickey have all shown far greater talent, skill and motor than Young has, despite the fact that Young has the advantage of one year of NBA experience.

No, James Young was a superior college player in one year of NCAA play at a younger age than any of our three picks. Let's give him a bit more time to figure it out in the big leagues.


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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2015, 09:28:40 PM »

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James Young = younger than Rozier and Hunter.
So far RJ Hunter, Terry Rozier and Jordan Mickey have all shown far greater talent, skill and motor than Young has, despite the fact that Young has the advantage of one year of NBA experience.

No, James Young was a superior college player in one year of NCAA play at a younger age than any of our three picks. Let's give him a bit more time to figure it out in the big leagues.

nah. lets give up on a project pick one year into his development so we can trade him and watch him blossom somewhere else. he's really taking up space and eating up minutes that other guys need to develop. besides, we're in WIN-NOW mode.

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Re: Mickey, Young to Red Claws
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2015, 09:40:04 PM »

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James Young = younger than Rozier and Hunter.
So far RJ Hunter, Terry Rozier and Jordan Mickey have all shown far greater talent, skill and motor than Young has, despite the fact that Young has the advantage of one year of NBA experience.

No, James Young was a superior college player in one year of NCAA play at a younger age than any of our three picks. Let's give him a bit more time to figure it out in the big leagues.

Superior or was not because he played for a stacked Kentucky team?

Young has loose handles. Can't drive right.  Mediocre quickness. Looks as quick as slo mo if you ask me

Best chance young has in the NBA is to considerably bulk up and play SF. 

Re: Mickey, Young to Red Claws
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2015, 10:03:09 PM »

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James Young = younger than Rozier and Hunter.
So far RJ Hunter, Terry Rozier and Jordan Mickey have all shown far greater talent, skill and motor than Young has, despite the fact that Young has the advantage of one year of NBA experience.

No, James Young was a superior college player in one year of NCAA play at a younger age than any of our three picks. Let's give him a bit more time to figure it out in the big leagues.

Superior or was not because he played for a stacked Kentucky team?

Young has loose handles. Can't drive right.  Mediocre quickness. Looks as quick as slo mo if you ask me

Best chance young has in the NBA is to considerably bulk up and play SF.

IIRC, he played the most minutes of anyone on Kentucky during that March Madness run. He was easily one of their top two players.

That's all fine. Young needs to improve, I agree. But it's as absurd to suggest he has no chance at making it as it is to suggest that he's going to be completely fine and blossom into Michael Redd. The right answer to the James Young question requires some intellectual humility: I don't know, let's wait and see. For now, let him build his game in the D-League.


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Re: Mickey, Young to Red Claws
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2015, 10:56:59 PM »

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James Young = younger than Rozier and Hunter.
So far RJ Hunter, Terry Rozier and Jordan Mickey have all shown far greater talent, skill and motor than Young has, despite the fact that Young has the advantage of one year of NBA experience.

No, James Young was a superior college player in one year of NCAA play at a younger age than any of our three picks. Let's give him a bit more time to figure it out in the big leagues.

Superior or was not because he played for a stacked Kentucky team?

Young has loose handles. Can't drive right.  Mediocre quickness. Looks as quick as slo mo if you ask me

Best chance young has in the NBA is to considerably bulk up and play SF.

IIRC, he played the most minutes of anyone on Kentucky during that March Madness run. He was easily one of their top two players.

That's all fine. Young needs to improve, I agree. But it's as absurd to suggest he has no chance at making it as it is to suggest that he's going to be completely fine and blossom into Michael Redd. The right answer to the James Young question requires some intellectual humility: I don't know, let's wait and see. For now, let him build his game in the D-League.

He has the toolset and a nice 7 ft wingspan

He just needs to become a "pro". Hopefully soon

Re: Mickey, Young to Red Claws
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2015, 10:57:11 PM »

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James Young = younger than Rozier and Hunter.
So far RJ Hunter, Terry Rozier and Jordan Mickey have all shown far greater talent, skill and motor than Young has, despite the fact that Young has the advantage of one year of NBA experience.

No, James Young was a superior college player in one year of NCAA play at a younger age than any of our three picks. Let's give him a bit more time to figure it out in the big leagues.

Superior or was not because he played for a stacked Kentucky team?

Young has loose handles. Can't drive right.  Mediocre quickness. Looks as quick as slo mo if you ask me

Best chance young has in the NBA is to considerably bulk up and play SF.

IIRC, he played the most minutes of anyone on Kentucky during that March Madness run. He was easily one of their top two players.

That's all fine. Young needs to improve, I agree. But it's as absurd to suggest he has no chance at making it as it is to suggest that he's going to be completely fine and blossom into Michael Redd. The right answer to the James Young question requires some intellectual humility: I don't know, let's wait and see. For now, let him build his game in the D-League.

TP. Yes. It's wildly too early to be making proclamations about a player so young (no pun intended).

And let's turn the focus to more pressing matters like how Mickey is going to make it to his Hall of Fame induction in Springfield next week if he's all the way out in Maine ;)

Re: Mickey, Young to Red Claws
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2015, 11:01:34 PM »

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James Young = younger than Rozier and Hunter.
So far RJ Hunter, Terry Rozier and Jordan Mickey have all shown far greater talent, skill and motor than Young has, despite the fact that Young has the advantage of one year of NBA experience.

No, James Young was a superior college player in one year of NCAA play at a younger age than any of our three picks. Let's give him a bit more time to figure it out in the big leagues.

Superior or was not because he played for a stacked Kentucky team?

Young has loose handles. Can't drive right.  Mediocre quickness. Looks as quick as slo mo if you ask me

Best chance young has in the NBA is to considerably bulk up and play SF.

IIRC, he played the most minutes of anyone on Kentucky during that March Madness run. He was easily one of their top two players.

That's all fine. Young needs to improve, I agree. But it's as absurd to suggest he has no chance at making it as it is to suggest that he's going to be completely fine and blossom into Michael Redd. The right answer to the James Young question requires some intellectual humility: I don't know, let's wait and see. For now, let him build his game in the D-League.

TP. Yes. It's wildly too early to be making proclamations about a player so young (no pun intended).

And let's turn the focus to more pressing matters like how Mickey is going to make it to his Hall of Fame induction in Springfield next week if he's all the way out in Maine ;)

Mickey is too good for the nbdl