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Offline GreenWarrior

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there needs to be 2 adjustments to the starting line up. and unfortunately Evan Turner must start for this poor start to the season to change.

I know nobody wants to hear that or would even admit that notion but it's true. the only other option is Jerebko and he would fail miserably as consistency is his biggest issue.

a line up of:

Zeller
Crowder
Turner
Bradley
Smart

would be one solution. but I still don't like the idea of Crowder, Bradley and Smart starting together... they're redundant. I know everyone will cry and say Bradley is this offensive wizard...but he's not, he's the same as smart and crowder, they're all limited offensively in their own ways.

another solution:

Zeller
Olynyk or Sullinger
Turner
Bradley
Smart

would infuse a little more offense while keeping the defensive back court intact. the only downer is the defense in the front court would be horrible.

it really sucks that we don't have an alternative to Zeller, Turner and Bradley. and I know everyone would like to see IT start but there's no reason to. plus I think Smart is way more valuable starting than IT is.

Re: Smart, Crowder and Bradley are redundant and Lee is just horrible
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2015, 07:27:14 PM »

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I disagree
Smart AB Crowder Sully Amir
Thomas sully should get most minutes off the bench

Re: Smart, Crowder and Bradley are redundant and Lee is just horrible
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2015, 07:37:24 PM »

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Well kind of, I can see your point with Smart and Crowder being very similar offensively though I do think Smart is better and improving. But IMO the problem is the starting bigs: Crowder, Lee and Zeller bring no shooting threat and are lane cloggers.

I would try:
Smart
AB
Crowder
KO
Amir

But what the hell do I know?  ;D

Re: Smart, Crowder and Bradley are redundant and Lee is just horrible
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2015, 07:42:55 PM »

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Well kind of, I can see your point with Smart and Crowder being very similar offensively though I do think Smart is better and improving. But IMO the problem is the starting bigs: Crowder, Lee and Zeller bring no shooting threat and are lane cloggers.

I would try:
Smart
AB
Crowder
KO
Amir

But what the hell do I know?  ;D
This would work well as well.

Re: Smart, Crowder and Bradley are redundant and Lee is just horrible
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2015, 07:51:01 PM »

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Or how about we actually let the guys play some more games (so we have a half decent sample size) before running around making rotation changes.

Seriously guys...

We have only played three regular season games so far.

- We beat Philly by almost 20 points, despite the fact that we could not make a basket
- We got very convincingly beaten by Toronto (every team has bad games)
- We had a narrow and hard fought loss against a Spurs team that's seen as one of the top 3 or 4 favorites to win a title this year

Lets give the team a few games before we start making hasty decisions, yes?

Re: Smart, Crowder and Bradley are redundant and Lee is just horrible
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2015, 07:52:20 PM »

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Isaiah, Bradley, Smart.  why not go back to this lineup and bring Crowder off the bench.  Crowder is a guy who does well on the second unit.  Sully should be starting.  Lee is a disapointment.  Was not a huge fan of the signing in the first place.  We have too many bigs now where no one can get in gear.

I think guys like Lee and Crowder could thrive on the 2nd unit with Turner, Rozier getting some minutes.

« Last Edit: November 01, 2015, 07:58:40 PM by walker834 »

Re: Smart, Crowder and Bradley are redundant and Lee is just horrible
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Isaiah, Bradley, Smart.  why not go back to this lineup and bring Crowder off the bench.  Crowder is a guy who does well on the second unit.  Sully should be starting.  Lee is a disapointment.  Was not a huge fan of the signing in the first place.  We have too many bigs now where no one can get in gear.

I think guys like Lee and Crowder could thrive on the 2nd unit with Turner, Rozier getting some minutes.

You probably weren't a fan of the signing because it didn't happen. We got Lee for Wallace and no skin off our backs.
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Re: Smart, Crowder and Bradley are redundant and Lee is just horrible
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2015, 07:57:20 PM »

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Lee needs to play the Gerald Wallace role on this team.
Play the young guys.

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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2015, 07:58:49 PM »

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As much credit as Stevens gets his rotations have been not exactly any more genius than anything else right now.

I'd roll with Isaiah, Bradley, Smart, SUlly and Amir.  With Rozier, Turner/Hunter, Crowder, Lee and KO off the bench.

Even KO can start some games.  Zeller bleh..

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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2015, 08:04:06 PM »

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Or how about we actually let the guys play some more games (so we have a half decent sample size) before running around making rotation changes.

Seriously guys...

We have only played three regular season games so far.

- We beat Philly by almost 20 points, despite the fact that we could not make a basket
- We got very convincingly beaten by Toronto (every team has bad games)
- We had a narrow and hard fought loss against a Spurs team that's seen as one of the top 3 or 4 favorites to win a title this year

Lets give the team a few games before we start making hasty decisions, yes?

Hear, hear.
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Re: Smart, Crowder and Bradley are redundant and Lee is just horrible
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2015, 08:04:51 PM »

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I disagree
Smart AB Crowder Sully Amir
Thomas sully should get most minutes off the bench

i'm not opposed to amir starting either, I just wonder how long he'd hold up and he's still undersized for a starting center.

one way or another lee and crowder need to exit the line up.

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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2015, 08:08:32 PM »

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Well kind of, I can see your point with Smart and Crowder being very similar offensively though I do think Smart is better and improving. But IMO the problem is the starting bigs: Crowder, Lee and Zeller bring no shooting threat and are lane cloggers.

I would try:
Smart
AB
Crowder
KO
Amir

But what the hell do I know?  ;D

no, I agree. but with that line up we're still faced with the issue that we're getting no offense from the 1, 3 & 5 or not enough offense if we want to be nice about it.

Re: Smart, Crowder and Bradley are redundant and Lee is just horrible
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2015, 08:13:23 PM »

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Or how about we actually let the guys play some more games (so we have a half decent sample size) before running around making rotation changes.

Seriously guys...

We have only played three regular season games so far.

- We beat Philly by almost 20 points, despite the fact that we could not make a basket
- We got very convincingly beaten by Toronto (every team has bad games)
- We had a narrow and hard fought loss against a Spurs team that's seen as one of the top 3 or 4 favorites to win a title this year

Lets give the team a few games before we start making hasty decisions, yes?
you're saying not to overreact but in the same post admit there's a problem with the offense. it's not overreacting if you're trying to fix something before it's too late.

in the 1st 3 games the common denominator has been lack of offense. particularly with the starters. like I pointed out 3 of the starters are basically the same player - all defense with minimal offense. common sense would say there needs to be a change between the 3.

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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2015, 08:16:36 PM »

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Or how about we actually let the guys play some more games (so we have a half decent sample size) before running around making rotation changes.

Seriously guys...

We have only played three regular season games so far.

- We beat Philly by almost 20 points, despite the fact that we could not make a basket
- We got very convincingly beaten by Toronto (every team has bad games)
- We had a narrow and hard fought loss against a Spurs team that's seen as one of the top 3 or 4 favorites to win a title this year

Lets give the team a few games before we start making hasty decisions, yes?

Hear, hear.
Let's leave the hyperbole to the talk show hosts.

We blew out a bad team (Philly), lost to a playoff team (Toronto) and had closely fought loss against a contender (Spurs). 

Pretty much what most people would have expected to happen.

The team will get better as time goes on, but I don't know why people are being so hasty in drawing conclusion. 
 
« Last Edit: November 01, 2015, 08:58:08 PM by crimson_stallion »

Re: Smart, Crowder and Bradley are redundant and Lee is just horrible
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Lee needs to play the Gerald Wallace role on this team.
Play the young guys.

Yes