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i'm sick of the sales pitch
« on: October 30, 2015, 10:14:49 PM »

Offline GreenWarrior

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we need a star. preferably at SG or SF. but i'll take any position.

this "we're going to outwork teams" crap is just a sales pitch to keep people interested and based on nothing. we have a bunch of guys that would be a nice piece on a contender but as a collective they amount to nothing.

i'll end this post on a positive note though so I don't get accused of "overreacting to 2 games". this is a 500 team that's got a chance at the playoffs because it's the east.
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2015, 11:05:05 PM »

Offline droopdog7

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Not a single star or potential star in the team.  We're going to need to get lucky to get one.  More than likely it will have to be through the draft, because five mid round picks ain't going to do it.
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2015, 11:17:01 PM »

Offline D Dub

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Celticsblog.   Where we're entitled to win every game. 
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2015, 11:22:30 PM »

Offline cons

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agree about the no stars thing but i think the sales pitch is more that coach stevens is so good he'll be able to turn this group into an overachieving , "greater than the sum of its parts" type situation. It didn't go that way tonight but in fairness to the coach this is the very first game against any actual competition. 
 stevens did create something out of this roster last year and if he's as good a coach as advertised he can probably do it again.
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2015, 12:31:27 AM »

Offline chambers

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Just be patient and remember that we've got a really good shot at getting a star next offseason.

Our best shot is to draft one with the 2016 Brooklyn pick.
The other less likely option is to trade for a star with that pick+some of our young players- although I can't see any players that teams would be willing to give up right now.

Cross your fingers that the Nets pick is top 4.
One of Labissiere, Simmons, Ingram or Brown would be awesome.
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"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2015, 12:53:03 AM »

Offline Vox_Populi

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Quote from: GreenWarrior on October 30, 2015, 10:14:49 PM
we need a star. preferably at SG or SF. but i'll take any position.

this "we're going to outwork teams" crap is just a sales pitch to keep people interested and based on nothing. we have a bunch of guys that would be a nice piece on a contender but as a collective they amount to nothing.

i'll end this post on a positive note though so I don't get accused of "overreacting to 2 games". this is a 500 team that's got a chance at the playoffs because it's the east.
Is there any Celtics' fan that disagrees with you? Everyone thinks we need a star. But is it wrong to be positive about the season based on the talent available? It's not even like it was Celtics' fans who originally projected the team to be possibly be good.
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2015, 01:05:48 AM »

Offline PhoSita

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I mean, the "sales pitch" is just the rosiest take on a situation that can't really be changed, for now.  It's a team of scrappy role players.  Put another way, it's the best two bench units in the league, but there's no starting lineup.

Some nights they'll look like a 10-man dynamo that is far more than the sum of its parts, some nights they'll look like they brought a knife to World War III.

The Celts have a tough opening schedule, so they might hang around .500 or even below .500 for the first month or two.  It'll get easier later in the season when they face the weaker Eastern teams multiple times and some of their other opponents start packing it in or resting their stars.

Just pray that Nets pick turns into a star.
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2015, 01:17:46 AM »

Offline Rondo9

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I think some players starter caliber or have the potential to start, come on there's some hope for this team. They are fun the watch and do NOT amount to nothing.
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2015, 01:53:54 AM »

Offline Greyman

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The patience and being frustrated with being patient - I want a winning team now, roller coaster is not an easy ride. For better or worse it is the ride we are on. I hope the group continues to prove to be the 'support cast' we need for when the stars get here.

If it feels bad, just imagine what it would be like to be a Miami Dolphins fan, and you should feel a little bit better.
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2015, 02:01:11 AM »

Offline Rondo9

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The Celtics could be the Nets. A team on the road to nowhere.
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2015, 02:45:12 AM »

Offline DesertDweller

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you simply can't win missing so many easy shots. Tommy says we found our defensive key, yeah right!!! we make some good defensive plays but giving up 113 points is not a good defensive team.
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2015, 05:27:18 AM »

Offline adam.jones614

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Isaiah Thomas is currently averaging 26 points 7 assists. Just saying if that were to hold up, sounds like star numbers to me
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2015, 08:25:41 AM »

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I'd like to think that is about as bad as this team will play. I'm not saying they are better than the Raptors because right now I don't think they are, but they couldn't pass, rebound or shoot.

I don't like the groupings but I'm not sure how much better they can get. We just don't have enough offensive talent right now. I think KO is going to have to play more to help spread the floor for Crowder and IT4 to drive.

It's going to take time to find units that work together and CBS has to stop playing 12 guys right now and give players a chance to get in a grove. Way to much substitution going on right now.

Also what p---ed me off the most is with 4 minutes left this game was OVER and CBS had IT4 in and other key players. Those last 4 minutes should have been rookie time!!
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2015, 08:54:54 AM »

Offline GreenWarrior

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Quote from: adam.jones614 on October 31, 2015, 05:27:18 AM
Isaiah Thomas is currently averaging 26 points 7 assists. Just saying if that were to hold up, sounds like star numbers to me

IT is a farce as well. a star is able to get his own shot. IT struggled to be able to do that in the playoffs last yr. and from what I've seen it seems the reg. season too.
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2015, 08:59:04 AM »

Offline BDeCosta26

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Quote from: dreamgreen on October 31, 2015, 08:25:41 AM
I'd like to think that is about as bad as this team will play. I'm not saying they are better than the Raptors because right now I don't think they are, but they couldn't pass, rebound or shoot.

I don't like the groupings but I'm not sure how much better they can get. We just don't have enough offensive talent right now. I think KO is going to have to play more to help spread the floor for Crowder and IT4 to drive.

It's going to take time to find units that work together and CBS has to stop playing 12 guys right now and give players a chance to get in a grove. Way to much substitution going on right now.

Also what p---ed me off the most is with 4 minutes left this game was OVER and CBS had IT4 in and other key players. Those last 4 minutes should have been rookie time!!

Those last four minutes showed me why I love this team though. I gotta say, a lot of teams woulda kinda let off the gas and coasted to an L, we tried our hardest to press on both ends, force TO's, manage the clock. I liked our effort
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