Crowder and Smart: Good defenders but inefficient shooters

[Tr1boy]

Just frustrating to see these guys miss shot after shot.   When was the last time crowder shot 5 for 7? Or Smart do the same?

I wonder if either of these guys will shoot efficiently on a consistent basis

[PhoSita]

I mean, yes.  If these guys are relied on to be your best outside shooters on the floor at any given time, you're in trouble.  They are complementary scorers at this point.  Smart may become more than that eventually.  Crowder I think is what he is (which is a nice player).

[GreenWarrior]

the defensive players in the starting line up is overkill. we need a scorer in the starting line up.

[PhoSita]

the defensive players in the starting line up is overkill. we need a scorer in the starting line up.

They could start Amir and IT, the best scoring combo the team has, but then what does that do to the defense against opposing starters?

I would like to see Brad try out the following lineup more often, though:

IT - Smart - Crowder/Jerebko - KO - Amir

[KeepRondo]

Smart really sucked tonight.

Do people still think he will shoot over 40 percent this year?

[GreenWarrior]

the defensive players in the starting line up is overkill. we need a scorer in the starting line up.

They could start Amir and IT, the best scoring combo the team has, but then what does that do to the defense against opposing starters?

I would like to see Brad try out the following lineup more often, though:

IT - Smart - Crowder/Jerebko - KO - Amir

no freaking way dude. for one, I can't stand 2 pg's in the backcourt. I look at it as you're breaking even(at best) playing that way. then who plays back up pg? rozier? are you ready to give him those kinda mins.?

I hate to say it but Turner has to start over crowder. I would start amir but he's a dude that's been in the league 10 yrs., not sure he could handle it.

starting KO at center is like playing 2 pg's at the same time in my eyes. at best we'll break even in that match up.

I would consider a line up of:

zeller
sully
turner
Bradley
smart

zeller has really underwhelmed thus far though. I don't know, this team looks horrible at the moment.

[SHAQATTACK]

Smart really sucked tonight.

Do people still think he will shoot over 40 percent this year?

He'll shoot better than Rondo ....for sure

[LooseCannon]

Jae Crowder last shot 5 for 7 on March 16.  Marcus Smart on January 10.

[Hemingway]

Crowder needs to drive more. He has the size. But Crowder and Smart are not the problem, really. They both had really good games on D. We just don't have a good scoring option before IT gets in.

[Snakehead]

Neither one shot well last night.

I personally thought Smart should've attacked more and made plays, where I think his game has improved the most (I think his passing is way better than last year, so far).

I think this game was oddly encouraging... I guess?  I mean there is another thread and people are talking about us just not shooting well, but I thought a lot of guys like Smart didn't really get into offensive sets on top of not shooting well either.  I didn't see enough pick and roll sets being run well, for example.  I felt like the Raptors really got us out of our game (refs too) but we were still pretty close so that was not the worst thing to see.

Also, the Raptors are good.

I'm fine with both of them starting too.  I think though the bigs need to be switched up.  I liked Kelly's game because he was aggressive even if his shot wasn't falling.  Sully has been good.  I am feeling like we should be going Kelly and Sully as starters some point soon to give scoring and rebounding (and Kelly's spacing can allow others to get to the rim).  I get that we are a deep team and in theory we can't oveerreact if we "lose" a starting line up match up (because our bench can go on a run) but man, I think the start of the game matters more than that and you can't just play the stat game.  Zeller and Lee have both been bad.  I am a bit worried the Lee move was a mistake and he will just clog up minutes for the rest of our bigs.

[Tr1boy]

Smart really sucked tonight.

Do people still think he will shoot over 40 percent this year?

Likely just barely over.  His shooting mechanics is awful.  He needs to use more legs/wrist and less arm movement. Would like to see him drive in more like a bowling ball.  But I have a feeling he is too worried about the system and wants to be the guard dog on the defensive end.

Crowder also is one streaky offensive player. 

Right now I would also give Rozier some min and pressure Smart to play better. 

We unfortunately have an issue at the SF spot. As none of crowder, Turner or jerebko are starters.   I would like to see Young get a look as he has the highest potential if he can put it together.   

[kozlodoev]

Crowder and Smart: Good defenders but inefficient shooters

We knew this last season. As a matter of principle, players will improve incrementally and not exponentially, therefore assuming that "what you see is (very close to) what you get" is going to be accurate more often than not.

Also, anyone who's followed closely the career of Rajon Rondo should be able to understand exactly what I'm talking about

[PhoSita]

Smart really sucked tonight.

Do people still think he will shoot over 40 percent this year?

Likely just barely over.

Yeah, I'm also sure Lee will continue to shoot 30% and Isaiah will continue to shoot 20% from three.



But yeah, let's overreact to a two game sample size.

[Hemingway]

Smart really sucked tonight.

I guess I would feel the same if I only looked at the box score.

[kozlodoev]

Smart really sucked tonight.

Do people still think he will shoot over 40 percent this year?

Likely just barely over.

Yeah, I'm also sure Lee will continue to shoot 30% and Isaiah will continue to shoot 20% from three.



But yeah, let's overreact to a two game sample size.

Smart shot 37% last season, Crowder -- 39% over a nontrivial number of games. This is what sets expectations. In fact, either of them to break 40% this season is an optimistic prognosis.