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Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2015, 03:38:58 PM »

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I think keeping it is a good move. Since if we trade it we are likely going to have to package it with other picks and players to get a star.

Personally I would prefer to watch a star develop on the Celtics rather than trade for one.
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Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2015, 04:02:02 PM »

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this is the biggest question this franchise has to answer this season.
i do not think we should trade it right now, reasons:
1. nobody knows what pick it will be, so you can argubly say, it's value is at "all time low" right now(and until the lottery)
2. we are not goint anywhere this year, so be patient.
3. at draft night, you will have a great insight, since you will actually workout the best projects, and the pick value will be skyrocketing.

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Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #32 on: October 30, 2015, 04:11:32 PM »

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The only two "available" guys I'd consider trading it for are Paul George and Boogie.

"Available" as in some disgruntlement, and some swirling but completely unsubstantiated rumors.

 

Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2015, 04:15:46 PM »

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The top 2 picks in this draft (Skal & Ben Simmons) are basically top 5 players in value with the cap going up so high next year.  They are the last elite prospects who will be paid so little.  Then, Jaylen Brown (a SF), Brandon Ingram (a SF) and Damian Jones (a C) are all great players at positions of need for us.  I would be EXTREMELY hesitant to trade that pick given that the Nets look like hot garbage and a top 5 pick is basically a 50/50 possibility right now.

The Nets by the way have a super hard schedule to start the season.  They already lost their opener and now have to play the Spurs tonight, then Memphis, Milwaukee, ATL, LAL, Milwaukee again, Houston, Sacramento, Golden State, ATL, Charlotte, then they play us twice in a row.  They could absolutely be 2-12 to start the season and completely demoralized from the get go.

I do agree though that if we got someone like Paul George or DeMarcus Cousins it would be a no brainer even with that, but I just don't see that happening.  If Ben Simmons turns out to be the next LeBron in like 5 years but we get Cousins in his prime, I could honestly live with that.  I just really don't want to trade the pick for someone like DeMar DeRozan or Melo (who are both fine, but come on) or another PF.

Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2015, 04:43:51 PM »

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The top 2 picks in this draft (Skal & Ben Simmons) are basically top 5 players in value with the cap going up so high next year.  They are the last elite prospects who will be paid so little.  Then, Jaylen Brown (a SF), Brandon Ingram (a SF) and Damian Jones (a C) are all great players at positions of need for us.  I would be EXTREMELY hesitant to trade that pick given that the Nets look like hot garbage and a top 5 pick is basically a 50/50 possibility right now.

The Nets by the way have a super hard schedule to start the season.  They already lost their opener and now have to play the Spurs tonight, then Memphis, Milwaukee, ATL, LAL, Milwaukee again, Houston, Sacramento, Golden State, ATL, Charlotte, then they play us twice in a row.  They could absolutely be 2-12 to start the season and completely demoralized from the get go.

I do agree though that if we got someone like Paul George or DeMarcus Cousins it would be a no brainer even with that, but I just don't see that happening.  If Ben Simmons turns out to be the next LeBron in like 5 years but we get Cousins in his prime, I could honestly live with that.  I just really don't want to trade the pick for someone like DeMar DeRozan or Melo (who are both fine, but come on) or another PF.
Do you think Jones is in that top group? From what I've read, the top 5 are Skal, Simmons, Brown, Ingram and Bender.
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Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2015, 04:46:01 PM »

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Do you think Jones is in that top group? From what I've read, the top 5 are Skal, Simmons, Brown, Ingram and Bender.

I like Bender a little more, but he's neck and neck with Jones right now. At the end of the season they could easily flip.  People were trashing this draft a couple years ago outside of Skal and BS, but I think it will end up having some real good players.

Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2015, 05:39:24 PM »

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I can't believe this would even be a debate. if we can get a star(and i'm assuming we're talking a star who is still a star and not someone who used to be) then you take it. let someone else draft players and wait n' see. you take established talent over 'possibilities' any day.

the only time i'd say don't is if there's a Duncan, Durant, Lebron type franchise changing player. and last I heard this upcoming draft doesn't appear to have any players of that caliber.

Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2015, 05:41:07 PM »

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We traded a 5th pick for ray Allen. so curry will do for the brooklyn pick

Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2015, 06:03:15 PM »

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For LeBron James, Durant, or Cousins.  If none of those three, then I say keep it.

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Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2015, 06:43:02 PM »

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guys I might be willing to trade it for , that could be had for the Brooklyn pick


Giannis
Bradley Beal
Cousins (though I am not a huge fan )
Nurkic
Damian Lillard


*Don't see that pick landing us a Durant or George , but these players may be able to be had for the Brooklyn pick in a package

We'd never get Lillard or Cousins for just that pick.

Someone around Beal's level is probably what we'd get.

Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2015, 06:44:27 PM »

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We traded a 5th pick for ray Allen. so curry will do for the brooklyn pick

I would trade the Brooklyn pick for Klay Thompson in a heartbeat.

Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2015, 06:55:01 PM »

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Cousins is a piece you go all in for. Pick players etc etc

Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #42 on: November 01, 2015, 06:13:50 AM »

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If guys like Davis and Durant will be available, I am willing to trade all of our Nets pick. I'd throw in some fillers too.

Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #43 on: November 01, 2015, 06:33:13 AM »

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We traded a 5th pick for ray Allen. so curry will do for the brooklyn pick

I would trade the Brooklyn pick for Klay Thompson in a heartbeat.

I wouldn't unless we had a Kevin Garnett level player in their prime.
I'd rather gamble on our pick becoming a top 10 player than take Thompson.
That's just my preference and I can see why plenty of people would make the trade in a heartbeat as you said.
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