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Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« on: October 30, 2015, 11:10:14 AM »

Offline willyd24

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If at the midway point of the season the Brooklyn pick is looking like it could be Top 3 would you rather hold onto it and hope that you get either Ben Simmons or Skal Labissiere or would you rather trade it for someone like Paul George if the Pacers are out of contention?

Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2015, 11:27:03 AM »

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I would 100% trade it for Paul George but the Pacers are never trading Paul George. Literally they would not trade Paul George unless Lebron, Anthony Davis, James Harden, Blake Griffin, Steph Curry or Kevin Durant were coming back in the trade.

I think PG is a top 10 player and I would trade the Brooklyn pick for a top 10 player.
I wouldn't trade the pick for any All star either etg I wouldn't trade it for someone like Klay Thompson- would rather gamble on picking the next top 10 NBA player with the Nets pick.
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Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2015, 11:41:38 AM »

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I know Cleveland just trade 2 #1's (and more) for Love so I guess the evaluation that should be applied is do you think PG is as good as Love AND that PG is healthy now without the injury likely to recur AND that whoever's available with the Nets pick isn't likely to be a better player than PG.

Personally, I think PG is an all-star but not a transcendent talent that'll carry a team through the playoffs to a title.  if the draft prospect looked like a sure bet to be an all-star, I'd lean towards keeping the pick to develop alongside the other youth we have and keep him cost controlled for several years.  wouldn't be popular with the win now crowd or those that value a vet over youth all the time but I see a pick that high as having really significant value.  PG isn't the guy I'd move it for. 

Cousins would be someone I'd probably do it for or the players mentioned by Chambers (but we'd have to throw in more than just that pick obviously) 

Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2015, 11:47:43 AM »

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I would personally keep the pick myself. I'd rather have an 18 or 19 year old that has the potential to be an All-Star than an older player that we know is an All-Star. Our team is young to begin with so if we can continue to add young talent we can be competitive for longer than if we trade them all away for aging All-Stars.

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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2015, 11:52:24 AM »

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depends on the star but yeah probably. We are already past the suck and rebuild stage so getting someone who can win right away would be better than a prospect.

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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2015, 01:10:12 PM »

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I would at least keep the pick until the ping pong balls bounced, to know the exact value of the pick.  Even then it would have to be a really, really good player that fills a specific need and can play defense for me to part with Brooklyn's pick next summer.

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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2015, 01:15:38 PM »

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Win now player ......like KG was ......make the pick count .....somebody hell-bent on winning

Westbrook
 Or
 Durrant



Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2015, 01:21:45 PM »

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I would 100% trade it for Paul George but the Pacers are never trading Paul George. Literally they would not trade Paul George unless Lebron, Anthony Davis, James Harden, Blake Griffin, Steph Curry or Kevin Durant were coming back in the trade.

I think PG is a top 10 player and I would trade the Brooklyn pick for a top 10 player.
I wouldn't trade the pick for any All star either etg I wouldn't trade it for someone like Klay Thompson- would rather gamble on picking the next top 10 NBA player with the Nets pick.

Never say never.

First, let's not overrate George. He certainly is a very good player. He's an excellent player. But he's never even made the 2nd string All-NBA team. He's had 20 ppg in a season once. His best finish for the NBA MVP award is 9th. I'm not so sure that puts him in the top 10 in the NBA, especially coming off that injury.

Second, what happens if Indy sucks this year? They're already 0-2. What happens if they're headed for a 20 win season? At some point they may just throw in the towel, take picks and some young guys and start again. That's when we can use the BKYN pick and other assets to acquire George.

As for your last statement, I entirely agree. There is no sense whatsoever in moving the BKYN pick for someone who is merely "good" or "above average". If that pick is our prime available resource, we need to turn it in to something great or hold on to it.
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Jaylen Brown will be an All Star in the next 5 years.

Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2015, 01:30:45 PM »

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Someone like Paul George??!?!

Someone like Paul George is a 25-year-old all-star and maybe even top 10 player.


Even if the next Lebron James is in this draft and the Nets are guaranteed to finish last, the odds of both identifying that guy and getting the top pick are like 1 in 12 at best. Yes, I would trade the pick for Paul George. It would be crazy not to take that deal.

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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2015, 01:32:31 PM »

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If that's what took to get Al Horford in a sign and trade I'd probably do it.

Could see trading it for Derrick Favors or Demarcus Cousins.

Derozan no. Otto Porter If the pick was too low for Simmons, than maybe.

As for Hassan Whiteside... Probably just keep the pick.

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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2015, 01:33:29 PM »

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As for your last statement, I entirely agree. There is no sense whatsoever in moving the BKYN pick for someone who is merely "good" or "above average". If that pick is our prime available resource, we need to turn it in to something great or hold on to it.

You're holding out for the MVP? For one pick??!??

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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2015, 01:36:30 PM »

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As for your last statement, I entirely agree. There is no sense whatsoever in moving the BKYN pick for someone who is merely "good" or "above average". If that pick is our prime available resource, we need to turn it in to something great or hold on to it.

You're holding out for the MVP? For one pick??!??

Where in the bloody hell does my post say I'm holding out for the MVP with one pick? We're talking about Klay Thompson, not Stephen Curry.
Jaylen Brown will be an All Star in the next 5 years.

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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2015, 01:50:13 PM »

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As for your last statement, I entirely agree. There is no sense whatsoever in moving the BKYN pick for someone who is merely "good" or "above average". If that pick is our prime available resource, we need to turn it in to something great or hold on to it.

You're holding out for the MVP? For one pick??!??

Where in the bloody hell does my post say I'm holding out for the MVP with one pick? We're talking about Klay Thompson, not Stephen Curry.


I'm sorry to pick on you, but I really think you have a weird perspective. Paul George made the all-NBA third team at age 22 and 23. The players at his position on team 1 and 2 were Lebron James and Kevin Durant.

Are you really saying that George isn't worth our pick because he's "excellent" but not "great".... based on the fact that when he was 22 he couldn't leapfrog the GOAT and the MVP in their primes???

Again... a pick... a pick that has a 10-25% chance of coming up #1...

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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2015, 01:54:23 PM »

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As for your last statement, I entirely agree. There is no sense whatsoever in moving the BKYN pick for someone who is merely "good" or "above average". If that pick is our prime available resource, we need to turn it in to something great or hold on to it.

You're holding out for the MVP? For one pick??!??

Where in the bloody hell does my post say I'm holding out for the MVP with one pick? We're talking about Klay Thompson, not Stephen Curry.


I'm sorry to pick on you, but I really think you have a weird perspective. Paul George made the all-NBA third team at age 22 and 23. The players at his position on team 1 and 2 were Lebron James and Kevin Durant.

Are you really saying that George isn't worth our pick because he's "excellent" but not "great".... based on the fact that when he was 22 he couldn't leapfrog the GOAT and the MVP in their primes???

Again... a pick... a pick that has a 10-25% chance of coming up #1...

I think you have reading comprehension issues. Go back and read my post again because I really said that I would use the pick in a package to acquire George. I just wouldn't use it to acquire someone like Klay Thompson.
Jaylen Brown will be an All Star in the next 5 years.

Re: Keep the Brooklyn pick or trade it for a star?
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2015, 01:57:34 PM »

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As for your last statement, I entirely agree. There is no sense whatsoever in moving the BKYN pick for someone who is merely "good" or "above average". If that pick is our prime available resource, we need to turn it in to something great or hold on to it.

You're holding out for the MVP? For one pick??!??

Where in the bloody hell does my post say I'm holding out for the MVP with one pick? We're talking about Klay Thompson, not Stephen Curry.


I'm sorry to pick on you, but I really think you have a weird perspective. Paul George made the all-NBA third team at age 22 and 23. The players at his position on team 1 and 2 were Lebron James and Kevin Durant.

Are you really saying that George isn't worth our pick because he's "excellent" but not "great".... based on the fact that when he was 22 he couldn't leapfrog the GOAT and the MVP in their primes???

Again... a pick... a pick that has a 10-25% chance of coming up #1...

I think you have reading comprehension issues. Go back and read my post again because I really said that I would use the pick in a package to acquire George. I just wouldn't use it to acquire someone like Klay Thompson.

LOL.

Oh my god, dude.

I'm sorry.