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Bulpett on roster moves
« on: October 20, 2015, 10:53:52 AM »

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Obviously Jones looks like he's on the outside looking in. However, what caught my eye was the "potential trade" comment. Surely, Jones has little to no value right now. So what if possible trade(s) being explored involved Sullinger and/or Turner with Jones attached to it?

Sullinger has quickly plummeted down the depth chart and finds himself behind Lee, Zeller, Johnson, and Olynyk in the rotation. Plus, Jerebko looks like a much better fit and plays the 4/3 and Crowder often slides up to the 4 when we go small.

Turner has played well for us, but I would love to be able to get Hunter as part of our rotation as a backup 2 and use his shooting ability to space the floor for Thomas to create havoc with Johnson in PNR's on the second unit.

One option that quickly comes to mind, that could be beneficial to both teams, is Sullinger and Jones for Terrance Ross.


http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics_nba/boston_celtics/2015/10/celtics_notebook_jones_might_be_odd_man_out


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The Celtics are heading down the home stretch in terms of their roster, and, according to Danny Ainge, the questions will be answered by this weekend.

The club has to be down to the maximum of 15 players by Monday in advance of the Oct. 28 regular-season opener, and currently there are 16 guaranteed contracts on the roster. In addition, there are four training-camp players who likely will be headed to the team’s D-League affiliate in Maine.

“I’ll visit with (coach) Brad (Stevens) sometime this week to discuss it,” said Ainge, the team president, before last night’s preseason game against the Nets. “We’ll decide by Saturday.”

Perry Jones is still looking like the odd man out among those with guaranteed deals, though it’s certain the Celts will be looking at potential trades this week to loosen their roster logjam through means other than a cut.

Coty Clarke, Malcolm Miller, Levi Randolph and Corey Walden all should have a chance to play for Maine.

“We’ve used our players in practices and drill work, and they all have helped the Celtics in training camp,” said Ainge, who, like Stevens, appreciates the relationship with the Red Claws.

“I love it,” he said. “It’s great. We feel like we have a great owner there (William Ryan) and a terrific coach (Scott Morrison), and we have a great relationship with them. Last year we had the best record in the D-League, and it was beneficial to James (Young) to go down there and play. Hopefully we’re staying healthy up here, and some of our young guys can get some experience down there again this year.”

Said Stevens, “There’s familiarity between teammates, systems. You can send a guy down at 11 o’clock in the morning to play a 7 o’clock game, and they don’t have a huge learning curve. I really like our D-League setup and our coaches and everybody else. It’s a really good situation.”

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Not sure why it would catch your eye, there's nothing new there. Of course they'll look to trade someone before they cut a contract. Some return is better than no return -- this is a roster of replaceables anyhow.
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Am I the only one annoyed by Stevens referring to Maine as down there ? Unless he meant it metaphorically. Regardless Mickey, young and rozier(at times) should be in Maine playing ball.
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Not sure why it would catch your eye, there's nothing new there. Of course they'll look to trade someone before they cut a contract. Some return is better than no return -- this is a roster of replaceables anyhow.

Just saying how Jones alone has no value. So rather than cutting him and having the roster set at 15, we'll be exploring trades. And logically speaking, the likely candidates to be dealt are Sullinger and Turner. Bulpett seems to have a good rapport with Ainge, so I wouldn't think that was a throw away comment without substance.
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Not sure why it would catch your eye, there's nothing new there. Of course they'll look to trade someone before they cut a contract. Some return is better than no return -- this is a roster of replaceables anyhow.

Just saying how Jones alone has no value. So rather than cutting him and having the roster set at 15, we'll be exploring trades. And logically speaking, the likely candidates to be dealt are Sullinger and Turner. Bulpett seems to have a good report with Ainge, so I wouldn't think that was a throw away comment without substance.
There is no "substance" to speak of here. Saying "it's certain the Celts will be looking at potential trades" is the basketball equivalent of saying "I'll check Amazon before I buy from my local bookstore". Again, no new information there beyond the obvious due diligence where diligence is due.
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Not sure why it would catch your eye, there's nothing new there. Of course they'll look to trade someone before they cut a contract. Some return is better than no return -- this is a roster of replaceables anyhow.

Just saying how Jones alone has no value. So rather than cutting him and having the roster set at 15, we'll be exploring trades. And logically speaking, the likely candidates to be dealt are Sullinger and Turner. Bulpett seems to have a good report with Ainge, so I wouldn't think that was a throw away comment without substance.
There is no "substance" to speak of here. Saying "it's certain the Celts will be looking at potential trades" is the basketball equivalent of saying "I'll check Amazon before I buy from my local bookstore". Again, no new information there beyond the obvious due diligence where diligence is due.

Yes, this is such an important point you've made...

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Not sure why it would catch your eye, there's nothing new there. Of course they'll look to trade someone before they cut a contract. Some return is better than no return -- this is a roster of replaceables anyhow.

Just saying how Jones alone has no value. So rather than cutting him and having the roster set at 15, we'll be exploring trades. And logically speaking, the likely candidates to be dealt are Sullinger and Turner. Bulpett seems to have a good rapport with Ainge, so I wouldn't think that was a throw away comment without substance.

Oh they'd be trying to get a 2nd round pick for Jones. Some team wanting to take a flyer on him on the final year of his rookie deal- similarly to what we did with Jae Crowder (although part of a very different trade, we really wanted a solid look at him and we got that).

Jones has a place in the league somewhere, just depends if teams would be willing to give up a 2nd round pick to secure his services before he hits waivers.
Philly would be perfect for him.
Maybe Charlotte now that MKG has gone down?

But yeah, the trades comment revolves around anyone who'll potentially be cut, not just our overloaded positions. Ainge always wants to get something- even if it's a small trade exception of some kind.
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Another candidate is Mickey. 

Maybe a top-heavy team in need of depth?  Signed at $1.2 for four years, he could become a homeless man's Tristan Thompson in a year or two...

I think the C's want to keep Jones. 
He's very much a CBS system guy, capable of guarding up to 4 positions on defense. 

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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2015, 12:15:36 PM »

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Am I the only one annoyed by Stevens referring to Maine as down there ? Unless he meant it metaphorically. Regardless Mickey, young and rozier(at times) should be in Maine playing ball.
down there as sent down to the minors.
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Another candidate is Mickey. 

Maybe a top-heavy team in need of depth?  Signed at $1.2 for four years, he could become a homeless man's Tristan Thompson in a year or two...

I think the C's want to keep Jones. 
He's very much a CBS system guy, capable of guarding up to 4 positions on defense.

Mickey isn't going anywhere. He's on an absolute bargain deal and his potential is just too strong to make him expendable for a roster spot. Even a legitimate trade would get us back a pretty nice piece. Just no reason to trade him right now.
Guys who'd get traded before him:
Jerebko
Jones
Turner
Possibly Sully depending on a few insider front office issues with him

In fact thinking about the long term picture, they'd move David Lee before moving Mickey- even though their trade price points are very different.

"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

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Another candidate is Mickey. 

Maybe a top-heavy team in need of depth?  Signed at $1.2 for four years, he could become a homeless man's Tristan Thompson in a year or two...

I think the C's want to keep Jones. 
He's very much a CBS system guy, capable of guarding up to 4 positions on defense.

Trade Jordan Mickey and keep Perry Jones.

Hah.

This has been a fun training camp.  Perry Jones Fever.
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Another candidate is Mickey. 

Maybe a top-heavy team in need of depth?  Signed at $1.2 for four years, he could become a homeless man's Tristan Thompson in a year or two...

I think the C's want to keep Jones. 
He's very much a CBS system guy, capable of guarding up to 4 positions on defense.

Trade Jordan Mickey and keep Perry Jones.

Hah.

This has been a fun training camp.  Perry Jones Fever.
RJ Hunter Fever too!!! I think Rozier has been the standout rookie at camp but ask this blog and it seems like 90% have Hunter not only going not down to Maine but also being in the rotation. Just don't see it.

Also, I gotta think that Jones is the odd man out whether it be through being cut or traded. I think the trade Bulpett is talking about is most likely Jones for a trade exception or a 2nd rounder that's heavily protected.
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Another candidate is Mickey. 

Maybe a top-heavy team in need of depth?  Signed at $1.2 for four years, he could become a homeless man's Tristan Thompson in a year or two...

I think the C's want to keep Jones. 
He's very much a CBS system guy, capable of guarding up to 4 positions on defense.

Trade Jordan Mickey and keep Perry Jones.

Hah.

This has been a fun training camp.  Perry Jones Fever.
RJ Hunter Fever too!!! I think Rozier has been the standout rookie at camp but ask this blog and it seems like 90% have Hunter not only going not down to but also being in the rotation. Just don't see it.

Also, I gotta think that Jones is the odd man out whether it be through being diluted or trade. I think the trade Bulpett is talking about is most likely Jones for a trade exception or a 2nd rounder that's heavily protected.

I'd be happy to get a TE for PJ3. Not sure how many teams out there have the wherewithal to give Ainge one, though.
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Not sure why it would catch your eye, there's nothing new there. Of course they'll look to trade someone before they cut a contract. Some return is better than no return -- this is a roster of replaceables anyhow.

Just saying how Jones alone has no value. So rather than cutting him and having the roster set at 15, we'll be exploring trades. And logically speaking, the likely candidates to be dealt are Sullinger and Turner. Bulpett seems to have a good report with Ainge, so I wouldn't think that was a throw away comment without substance.
There is no "substance" to speak of here. Saying "it's certain the Celts will be looking at potential trades" is the basketball equivalent of saying "I'll check Amazon before I buy from my local bookstore". Again, no new information there beyond the obvious due diligence where diligence is due.

Yes and no. If it goes without saying, then why say it in the first place? The fact that Ainge is exploring a trade, with a deadline of this weekend, when he can just as easily cut Jones is intriguing. Perhaps they've seen enough of Jones to try to keep him around for the year. Maybe they've grown tired of Sullinger's act and would settle for a pick in return and not risk his lack of playing time becoming a potential distraction as the season progresses.

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Guys who'd get traded before him:
Jerebko
Jones
Turner
Possibly Sully depending on a few insider front office issues with him

I think it really comes down to Sully, Jones and Turner.  Jerebko is very versatile and he played well last night.

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The fact that Ainge is exploring a trade, with a deadline of this weekend, when he can just as easily cut Jones is intriguing. Perhaps they've seen enough of Jones to try to keep him around for the year. Maybe they've grown tired of Sullinger's act and would settle for a pick in return and not risk his lack of playing time becoming a potential distraction as the season progresses.
 

So far, he has been a model citizen you have to hand him that.  Jones' knees scares me, he also looked so passive last night while in that game.