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I've been watching some of his recent clips in tournies, camps, and a few basketball games. And he definitely looks a lot slimmer, but hes taking more shots, and even though he makes them, (their highlights for a reason,) it seems like hes focusing more on his shot.

Is that a good or bad thing?

What do you think Sully will put up in his contract year? Think hes definitely due for progression considering a healthy and skinner Sully that can play 30-32 minutes can certainly raise his numbers.

I see Sully when healthy, and able to take and make 3 pt shots, and play more minutes, averaging around 16.4 PPG, 9.2 RPG, and 2.1 APG with 33-35% 3pt.
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Re: What numbers do you expect a healthy and slimmer Sullinger to put up?
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Assuming he can stay healthy enough to play 30-35 MPG for 70 games give or take I think 17-10-2 with 45/30/75% is reasonable.

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Assuming he can stay healthy enough to play 30-35 MPG for 70 games give or take I think 17-10-2 with 45/30/75% is reasonable.

Are those numbers worthy to re-sign him? I mean 17/10 isn't that what most people have been hoping for?
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Assuming he can stay healthy enough to play 30-35 MPG for 70 games give or take I think 17-10-2 with 45/30/75% is reasonable.

Are those numbers worthy to re-sign him? I mean 17/10 isn't that what most people have been hoping for?

The answer is, as always, a question: "resign him for what?"

I'm not opposed to keeping Sullinger on the Celtics in a vacuum. The nuances are where it gets tricky but with the salary cap blowing up it's trickier still.
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Assuming he can stay healthy enough to play 30-35 MPG for 70 games give or take I think 17-10-2 with 45/30/75% is reasonable.

Are those numbers worthy to re-sign him? I mean 17/10 isn't that what most people have been hoping for?

The answer is, as always, a question: "resign him for what?"

I'm not opposed to keeping Sullinger on the Celtics in a vacuum. The nuances are where it gets tricky but with the salary cap blowing up it's trickier still.

I agree.

What would you re-sign him to (ideally), and what number would be the deal breaker?

I think if Sully signs for anywhere under 12 million, then that's a steal in my book. At worst, Sully can give you 14/8, which isn't as bad when you take into account players have gotten paid a lot more, based on potential, close to average numbers on max contracts.
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It's hard to know what to expect because of the influx of bigs on the team. I think Sully will definitely be more efficient on both sides but he's competing with a lot of guys for minutes.

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Roster is still imbalanced with too many big men who could earn minutes. Sully may not get 30-32 minutes even if healthy and ready to play.

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If he was in great condition, I think 20 points and 12 rebounds is possible.

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Assuming he can stay healthy enough to play 30-35 MPG for 70 games give or take I think 17-10-2 with 45/30/75% is reasonable.

Are those numbers worthy to re-sign him? I mean 17/10 isn't that what most people have been hoping for?

The answer is, as always, a question: "resign him for what?"

I'm not opposed to keeping Sullinger on the Celtics in a vacuum. The nuances are where it gets tricky but with the salary cap blowing up it's trickier still.

I agree.

What would you re-sign him to (ideally), and what number would be the deal breaker?

I think if Sully signs for anywhere under 12 million, then that's a steal in my book. At worst, Sully can give you 14/8, which isn't as bad when you take into account players have gotten paid a lot more, based on potential, close to average numbers on max contracts.

This is a good question/avenue, but I don't have any idea off the top of my head.

Basically sign him to a positionally-fair deal that isn't crippling in the short term or banking on the fact that he gets significantly better (as that's a risk, IMO).
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Roster is still imbalanced with too many big men who could earn minutes. Sully may not get 30-32 minutes even if healthy and ready to play.
If he was in great condition, I think 20 points and 12 rebounds is possible.
It's hard to know what to expect because of the influx of bigs on the team. I think Sully will definitely be more efficient on both sides but he's competing with a lot of guys for minutes.

Let me all ask you this.

Eventually someone is going to have been benched or traded to raise up minutes. Which big do you see being the first one on his way out, and how much minutes do you see Sully getting at his best?


Assuming he can stay healthy enough to play 30-35 MPG for 70 games give or take I think 17-10-2 with 45/30/75% is reasonable.

Are those numbers worthy to re-sign him? I mean 17/10 isn't that what most people have been hoping for?

The answer is, as always, a question: "resign him for what?"

I'm not opposed to keeping Sullinger on the Celtics in a vacuum. The nuances are where it gets tricky but with the salary cap blowing up it's trickier still.

I agree.

What would you re-sign him to (ideally), and what number would be the deal breaker?

I think if Sully signs for anywhere under 12 million, then that's a steal in my book. At worst, Sully can give you 14/8, which isn't as bad when you take into account players have gotten paid a lot more, based on potential, close to average numbers on max contracts.

This is a good question/avenue, but I don't have any idea off the top of my head.

Basically sign him to a positionally-fair deal that isn't crippling in the short term or banking on the fact that he gets significantly better (as that's a risk, IMO).

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Easier said than done.

I don't see Sully taking on a cheap contract with us, nor giving us any hometown discount. But heres hoping the Danny Ainge and Sullinger love hasn't left the train yet. ;)
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Roster is still imbalanced with too many big men who could earn minutes. Sully may not get 30-32 minutes even if healthy and ready to play.
If he was in great condition, I think 20 points and 12 rebounds is possible.
It's hard to know what to expect because of the influx of bigs on the team. I think Sully will definitely be more efficient on both sides but he's competing with a lot of guys for minutes.

Let me all ask you this.

Eventually someone is going to have been benched or traded to raise up minutes. Which big do you see being the first one on his way out, and how much minutes do you see Sully getting at his best?


Assuming he can stay healthy enough to play 30-35 MPG for 70 games give or take I think 17-10-2 with 45/30/75% is reasonable.

Are those numbers worthy to re-sign him? I mean 17/10 isn't that what most people have been hoping for?

The answer is, as always, a question: "resign him for what?"

I'm not opposed to keeping Sullinger on the Celtics in a vacuum. The nuances are where it gets tricky but with the salary cap blowing up it's trickier still.

I agree.

What would you re-sign him to (ideally), and what number would be the deal breaker?

I think if Sully signs for anywhere under 12 million, then that's a steal in my book. At worst, Sully can give you 14/8, which isn't as bad when you take into account players have gotten paid a lot more, based on potential, close to average numbers on max contracts.

This is a good question/avenue, but I don't have any idea off the top of my head.

Basically sign him to a positionally-fair deal that isn't crippling in the short term or banking on the fact that he gets significantly better (as that's a risk, IMO).

Whoo!
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Easier said than done.

I don't see Sully taking on a cheap contract with us, nor giving us any hometown discount. But heres hoping the Danny Ainge and Sullinger love hasn't left the train yet. ;)
Zeller will probably see his minutes decreased first and then probably Olynyk unless he makes huge improvements.

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Assuming he can stay healthy enough to play 30-35 MPG for 70 games give or take I think 17-10-2 with 45/30/75% is reasonable.

Are those numbers worthy to re-sign him? I mean 17/10 isn't that what most people have been hoping for?

The answer is, as always, a question: "resign him for what?"

I'm not opposed to keeping Sullinger on the Celtics in a vacuum. The nuances are where it gets tricky but with the salary cap blowing up it's trickier still.

I agree.

What would you re-sign him to (ideally), and what number would be the deal breaker?

I think if Sully signs for anywhere under 12 million, then that's a steal in my book. At worst, Sully can give you 14/8, which isn't as bad when you take into account players have gotten paid a lot more, based on potential, close to average numbers on max contracts.

This is a good question/avenue, but I don't have any idea off the top of my head.

Basically sign him to a positionally-fair deal that isn't crippling in the short term or banking on the fact that he gets significantly better (as that's a risk, IMO).

Whoo!
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Easier said than done.

I don't see Sully taking on a cheap contract with us, nor giving us any hometown discount. But heres hoping the Danny Ainge and Sullinger love hasn't left the train yet. ;)

Easier said than done for sure, but that's where the deal breaker is for me. Tony Allen deserved that extra year he angled for -- I'm not sure Sullinger is the kind of player that warrants the effort/acquiescence.
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A bit more efficient, active on the boards, playing backup minutes behind Lee and Amir.
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Assuming he can stay healthy enough to play 30-35 MPG for 70 games give or take I think 17-10-2 with 45/30/75% is reasonable.

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I also think he'll start over David Lee for the most part.
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