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Re: Which teams did we beat out to sign Amir Johnson?
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2015, 11:09:01 AM »

Offline MBunge

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We probably beat out the Raptors

We beat out more than the Raptors: http://www.hoopsrumors.com/amir-johnson

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JULY 1ST, 2:36pm: The Celtics and Amir Johnson have agreed to a deal, reports Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports (Twitter links). It’ll be worth $24MM over two years, a fairly significant outlay. The incumbent Raptors, as well as the Knicks, Celtics, Mavericks, Pacers, Lakers and Spurs also expressed interest in the Kevin Bradbury client, as Jeff Goodman of ESPN.com reported earlier (on Twitter).
For me the phrase "expressed interest" doesn't mean lots. "Extended an offer" means a little more

Okay, and how often do you hear about extended offers to mid level free agents that arent restricted?

Showing interest can be anything from a phone call to touch base or discussing salary figures.

Well the Spurs probably would have had him in mind as a David West fall back option. So ya a lot of those interested teams probably needed things to shake out first before actually determining their level of interest.

The main reason I brought up this question was to identify the type of FA that would choose Boston over the big cities.

Johnson is an older workman like contributor that played here a lot saw the crowd during the good times and the bad. Maybe we should try to identify those types when looking the next FA.

Given that Amir committed earlier in free agency, I'd think he was much more of an Aldridge fallback than a West fall back.  Most of those teams mentioned, except for the Pacers, were after one or both of Aldridge and Jordan.  Based on the timing of Amir's decision, I'm guessing he was the Celtics' plan B after Love re-upped in Cleveland (within 30 minutes of Love being announced, Johnson was a Celtic).  Celtics paid a little extra in year 1 to get the non-guaranteed second year, and to lock him up before some team making a max offer to a big struck out and went looking to spend it elsewhere.

Totally agree.  I think Ainge wanted to add a quality big and had Amir as his fallback after Love.  Getting Lee was more about getting a more valuable trade asset than just Wallace's expiring deal.

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Re: Which teams did we beat out to sign Amir Johnson?
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2015, 11:22:08 AM »

Offline kozlodoev

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Looks like we beat out the Celtics and the Celtics.
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Re: Which teams did we beat out to sign Amir Johnson?
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2015, 11:36:31 AM »

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We probably beat out the Raptors

We beat out more than the Raptors: http://www.hoopsrumors.com/amir-johnson

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JULY 1ST, 2:36pm: The Celtics and Amir Johnson have agreed to a deal, reports Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports (Twitter links). It’ll be worth $24MM over two years, a fairly significant outlay. The incumbent Raptors, as well as the Knicks, Celtics, Mavericks, Pacers, Lakers and Spurs also expressed interest in the Kevin Bradbury client, as Jeff Goodman of ESPN.com reported earlier (on Twitter).
For me the phrase "expressed interest" doesn't mean lots. "Extended an offer" means a little more

Okay, and how often do you hear about extended offers to mid level free agents that arent restricted?

Showing interest can be anything from a phone call to touch base or discussing salary figures.

Well the Spurs probably would have had him in mind as a David West fall back option. So ya a lot of those interested teams probably needed things to shake out first before actually determining their level of interest.

The main reason I brought up this question was to identify the type of FA that would choose Boston over the big cities.


Johnson is an older workman like contributor that played here a lot saw the crowd during the good times and the bad. Maybe we should try to identify those types when looking the next FA.
I still don't get why this fallacy continues to live on.

Did Aldridge go to a big city? no.
Did Monroe go to a big city? no.

The 3 biggest factors in drawing free agents are:
1. Money
2. A chance to complete
3. A chance for more playing time

What used to be mentioned a few years ago was the state taxes or foreign taxes for Toronto as being a major factor influencing a player's preference where they would chose to play.  We don't hear about it so much anymore, but I would imagine it's still a factor.