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Re: Zoran Dragic to Cs
« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2015, 01:10:39 PM »

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Am I missing something here? How is it a "free" draft choice? Even if we cut him we will still owe him the $1.7 mill on his contract. Granted we had cap space, but aren't we still spending that money for that draft choice?
I'd say 1.7mill is kind of expensive for a "free" draft choice" there aren't many second rounders that make that much to begin with.

Unless i'm completely wrong here?

You're completely wrong  :). Miami has agreed to pay his salary.
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Re: Zoran Dragic to Cs
« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2015, 01:13:35 PM »

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Am I missing something here? How is it a "free" draft choice? Even if we cut him we will still owe him the $1.7 mill on his contract. Granted we had cap space, but aren't we still spending that money for that draft choice?
I'd say 1.7mill is kind of expensive for a "free" draft choice" there aren't many second rounders that make that much to begin with.

Unless i'm completely wrong here?


You're completely wrong  :). Miami has agreed to pay his salary.

ahh, I read we were paying it on a different post from an actual article regarding it.
Then in that case, a free draft pick? Nothing wrong with that...

Re: Zoran Dragic to Cs
« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2015, 01:18:20 PM »

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Am I missing something here? How is it a "free" draft choice? Even if we cut him we will still owe him the $1.7 mill on his contract. Granted we had cap space, but aren't we still spending that money for that draft choice?
I'd say 1.7mill is kind of expensive for a "free" draft choice" there aren't many second rounders that make that much to begin with.

Unless i'm completely wrong here?
It's being reported that Miami is sending cash over to help pay for the contract, which makes sense for Miami because they're in repeater-tax territory so paying Boston something to take the contract means saving millions later.

This, from Chris Forsberg, is basically how I feel:
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Re: Zoran Dragic to Cs
« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2015, 01:21:39 PM »

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Re: Zoran Dragic to Cs
« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2015, 01:28:15 PM »

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Yuck. How many guards can a team possibly need?

Re: Zoran Dragic to Cs
« Reply #50 on: July 27, 2015, 01:32:31 PM »

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It's kind of a no-brainer again by Danny. He takes the trade and waives Dragic and Miami pays his full salary. We gain a 2020 2nd rnd pick. A free pick is good but helping competitors get free from salary problems I am not sure is in our best interest unless the pick turns out to be a good one.


Re: Zoran Dragic to Cs
« Reply #51 on: July 27, 2015, 01:40:01 PM »

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Am I missing something here? How is it a "free" draft choice? Even if we cut him we will still owe him the $1.7 mill on his contract. Granted we had cap space, but aren't we still spending that money for that draft choice?
I'd say 1.7mill is kind of expensive for a "free" draft choice" there aren't many second rounders that make that much to begin with.

Unless i'm completely wrong here?

You're completely wrong  :). Miami has agreed to pay his salary.

What is Miami getting out of this deal?  prevent in paying the luxury tax?

Re: Zoran Dragic to Cs
« Reply #52 on: July 27, 2015, 01:45:40 PM »

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Yuck. How many guards can a team possibly need?

Now that your emotional response is out of the way, take a few minutes to get the particulars of the actual trade, and then give us your thoughts on the matter.

Re: Zoran Dragic to Cs
« Reply #53 on: July 27, 2015, 01:46:51 PM »

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Am I missing something here? How is it a "free" draft choice? Even if we cut him we will still owe him the $1.7 mill on his contract. Granted we had cap space, but aren't we still spending that money for that draft choice?
I'd say 1.7mill is kind of expensive for a "free" draft choice" there aren't many second rounders that make that much to begin with.

Unless i'm completely wrong here?

You're completely wrong  :). Miami has agreed to pay his salary.

What is Miami getting out of this deal?  prevent in paying the luxury tax?
Yup. Repeater luxury tax is pretty nasty these days.
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Re: Zoran Dragic to Cs
« Reply #54 on: July 27, 2015, 01:48:19 PM »

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Another savvy move from Ainge. Give away nothing and get a 2020 second round pick that at least has the potential to be an asset in the future, albeit a slim chance.

Re: Zoran Dragic to Cs
« Reply #55 on: July 27, 2015, 01:51:12 PM »

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Am I missing something here? How is it a "free" draft choice? Even if we cut him we will still owe him the $1.7 mill on his contract. Granted we had cap space, but aren't we still spending that money for that draft choice?
I'd say 1.7mill is kind of expensive for a "free" draft choice" there aren't many second rounders that make that much to begin with.

Unless i'm completely wrong here?

You're completely wrong  :). Miami has agreed to pay his salary.

What is Miami getting out of this deal?  prevent in paying the luxury tax?
Yup. Repeater luxury tax is pretty nasty these days.

How can the Heat pay for Dragic salary yet prevent paying the luxury tax by trading him to the Celts??




Re: Zoran Dragic to Cs
« Reply #56 on: July 27, 2015, 01:51:33 PM »

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Ummm, are people actually UPSET at this move?

This is why Ainge is a genius, and why hes the GM, and we aren't...

There are a lot of teams with cap space that could potentially take on contracts, but Ainge is the only person that has really been able to do so.

A unprotected 2020 pick is far away, but you never know the longevity of Chris Bosh's career, and what future the Heat is looking like.

Miami is sending cash considerations, and all BOS had to do was take on his contract, and tell Ainge to waive Zoran.

I mean... heck, they gave us a free second round pick, and we also got another for the Jones contract... I mean what more could you want without the exception of fireworks? Lee, Amir, and Jerebko's contracts are gold, especially since the more picks we acquire; more chances of striking on a player that can develop nicely like Hunter, Young, Mickey, etc as trade bait to match salaries for a disgruntled superstar is all right with me.
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Re: Zoran Dragic to Cs
« Reply #57 on: July 27, 2015, 01:54:52 PM »

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Am I missing something here? How is it a "free" draft choice? Even if we cut him we will still owe him the $1.7 mill on his contract. Granted we had cap space, but aren't we still spending that money for that draft choice?
I'd say 1.7mill is kind of expensive for a "free" draft choice" there aren't many second rounders that make that much to begin with.

Unless i'm completely wrong here?

You're completely wrong  :). Miami has agreed to pay his salary.

What is Miami getting out of this deal?  prevent in paying the luxury tax?
Yup. Repeater luxury tax is pretty nasty these days.

How can the Heat pay for Dragic salary yet prevent paying the luxury tax by trading him to the Celts??





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Re: Zoran Dragic to Cs
« Reply #58 on: July 27, 2015, 01:57:35 PM »

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Am I missing something here? How is it a "free" draft choice? Even if we cut him we will still owe him the $1.7 mill on his contract. Granted we had cap space, but aren't we still spending that money for that draft choice?
I'd say 1.7mill is kind of expensive for a "free" draft choice" there aren't many second rounders that make that much to begin with.

Unless i'm completely wrong here?

You're completely wrong  :). Miami has agreed to pay his salary.

What is Miami getting out of this deal?  prevent in paying the luxury tax?
Yup. Repeater luxury tax is pretty nasty these days.

How can the Heat pay for Dragic salary yet prevent paying the luxury tax by trading him to the Celts??
By trading the contract to the Celtics with some cash, they're basically paying the salary themselves but because the contract isn't on their books, they don't have to pay the repeater penalties on the contract, which is pretty steep at this point for a team like Miami.
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Re: Zoran Dragic to Cs
« Reply #59 on: July 27, 2015, 01:59:27 PM »

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Franchise altering move, I am so thankful to the person who created a discussion thread about the Celtics trading for Zoran Dragic. Next can you create a thread about the Maine Red Claws bench players? I need this crucial information.

Um...sorry?

In the future I'll refrain from posting actual news that impacts the moves Ainge may make in the immediate future and instead focus on click-bait Bleacher Report articles.
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