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Re: Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2015, 06:35:12 PM »

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Roughly 15-20 teams will deeply regret passing on RJ.

Yeah RJ is going to be a good player in the league. GS was licking their lips hoping he was going to fall to them.

Looking at the way the draft played out I cannot figure out how he fell. Someone with his skill set is in high demand in today's NBA.

Here's the sad thing.  He went 28.  Shoulda been our 16.  The other thing is that rj is a fit here. you can already see his role

Re: Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2015, 06:39:18 PM »

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Roughly 15-20 teams will deeply regret passing on RJ.

Yeah RJ is going to be a good player in the league. GS was licking their lips hoping he was going to fall to them.

Looking at the way the draft played out I cannot figure out how he fell. Someone with his skill set is in high demand in today's NBA.

Here's the sad thing.  He went 28.  Shoulda been our 16.  The other thing is that rj is a fit here. you can already see his role

Well of course he is - the guy is an official member of the Brad Stevens All Star team ::), haha ;D.

Re: Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2015, 06:42:41 PM »

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Roughly 15-20 teams will deeply regret passing on RJ.

Yeah RJ is going to be a good player in the league. GS was licking their lips hoping he was going to fall to them.

Looking at the way the draft played out I cannot figure out how he fell. Someone with his skill set is in high demand in today's NBA.

Here's the sad thing.  He went 28.  Shoulda been our 16.  The other thing is that rj is a fit here. you can already see his role

Well of course he is - the guy is an official member of the Brad Stevens All Star team ::), haha ;D.

So, you're not impressed with his play?  I know it's SL, but he looks good.  It will take a year of adding strength, but I think he'll be a good player.

Re: Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2015, 06:45:11 PM »

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Roughly 15-20 teams will deeply regret passing on RJ.

Hunter is looking more like a new age Ginobli every day.

Ginobili?  Really?  Wow.  I like Hunter a lot, too, but he doesn't possess Manu's handle, imo.  Not even close.  Seriously, bro, do you (Hunter) even dribble, lol ;D?  That's my concern with him, anyway. 

Re: Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2015, 06:47:02 PM »

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Wasn't everyone calling for Ainge's head when he drafted him?  Surprising how the tone has changed. 

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Re: Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2015, 06:58:23 PM »

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Roughly 15-20 teams will deeply regret passing on RJ.

Yeah RJ is going to be a good player in the league. GS was licking their lips hoping he was going to fall to them.

Looking at the way the draft played out I cannot figure out how he fell. Someone with his skill set is in high demand in today's NBA.

Here's the sad thing.  He went 28.  Shoulda been our 16.  The other thing is that rj is a fit here. you can already see his role

Well of course he is - the guy is an official member of the Brad Stevens All Star team ::), haha ;D.

So, you're not impressed with his play?  I know it's SL, but he looks good.  It will take a year of adding strength, but I think he'll be a good player.

Oh, no, I am - sorry for the confusion.  I just think it's funny how Stevens went after him, hard, in terms of recruiting when he was still at Butler, and now that he's finally got him, Hunter's been getting the majority of the minutes, as opposed to James Young, who was lauded by Stevens before the summer league.  Obviously, Hunter is much more well-rounded, and his passing ability is terrific, but it seems that Brad is more interested in playing guys who are more polished coming out of college than taking the time to develop kids like Young and Smart.  I thought that's what being a coach is all about. 

Btw, as great as his passes have been, Hunter has been a true trash brother ;D, percentage wise, in the summer league, and I don't think the refs will even call half of the fouls that have happened against him when he's taking a jumper.  I also worry about his lack of a handle, because he can't create his own shot.  He's like the sg version of Doug McDermott, imo, except that he can pass, although he's obviously the better defender of the two (even though the ball isn't very high in this regard, lol ;D).

Re: Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2015, 07:05:25 PM »

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Roughly 15-20 teams will deeply regret passing on RJ.

Yeah RJ is going to be a good player in the league. GS was licking their lips hoping he was going to fall to them.

Looking at the way the draft played out I cannot figure out how he fell. Someone with his skill set is in high demand in today's NBA.

Here's the sad thing.  He went 28.  Shoulda been our 16.  The other thing is that rj is a fit here. you can already see his role

Well of course he is - the guy is an official member of the Brad Stevens All Star team ::), haha ;D.

So, you're not impressed with his play?  I know it's SL, but he looks good.  It will take a year of adding strength, but I think he'll be a good player.

Oh, no, I am - sorry for the confusion.  I just think it's funny how Stevens went after him, hard, in terms of recruiting when he was still at Butler, and now that he's finally got him, Hunter's been getting the majority of the minutes, as opposed to James Young, who was lauded by Stevens before the summer league.  Obviously, Hunter is much more well-rounded, and his passing ability is terrific, but it seems that Brad is more interested in playing guys who are more polished coming out of college than taking the time to develop kids like Young and Smart.  I thought that's what being a coach is all about. 

Btw, as great as his passes have been, Hunter has been a true trash brother ;D, percentage wise, in the summer league, and I don't think the refs will even call half of the fouls that have happened against him when he's taking a jumper.  I also worry about his lack of a handle, because he can't create his own shot.  He's like the sg version of Doug McDermott, imo, except that he can pass, although he's obviously the better defender of the two (even though the ball isn't very high in this regard, lol ;D).

I don't think his handle is bad.  I don't know why you don't think Smart is being given the opportunity to develop.  He got 27 minutes a game as a rookie and was allowed to run the show during these Summer League games.  Young has been given minutes during the SL except for the games he missed due to injury.  He hasn't been a major focal point of the offense, but that's on him as he hasn't been aggressive.  He was better today though.

Re: Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2015, 07:06:07 PM »

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Roughly 15-20 teams will deeply regret passing on RJ.

Yeah RJ is going to be a good player in the league. GS was licking their lips hoping he was going to fall to them.

Looking at the way the draft played out I cannot figure out how he fell. Someone with his skill set is in high demand in today's NBA.

Here's the sad thing.  He went 28.  Shoulda been our 16.  The other thing is that rj is a fit here. you can already see his role
i am not sure i follow your logic here. the celtics already have hunter as well as rozier by choosing them 28 and 16 respectively. if they had taken hunter at 16 they would have lost rozier. why undo this?

and a point to some posts above, hunter has looked very good so far. my question now is how his defense will pan out against nba level players. hopefully he will be fine.
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Re: Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2015, 07:46:54 PM »

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Roughly 15-20 teams will deeply regret passing on RJ.

Yeah RJ is going to be a good player in the league. GS was licking their lips hoping he was going to fall to them.

Looking at the way the draft played out I cannot figure out how he fell. Someone with his skill set is in high demand in today's NBA.

Here's the sad thing.  He went 28.  Shoulda been our 16.  The other thing is that rj is a fit here. you can already see his role
i am not sure i follow your logic here. the celtics already have hunter as well as rozier by choosing them 28 and 16 respectively. if they had taken hunter at 16 they would have lost rozier. why undo this?

and a point to some posts above, hunter has looked very good so far. my question now is how his defense will pan out against nba level players. hopefully he will be fine.

They seemed pretty certain that Rozier would not last to 28--and yet if they presumed Hunter would, they were right. And if they were interested in both players and right on their demand in the market, it seems like they timed their picks perfectly.

Re: Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2015, 07:50:24 PM »

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Indeed! Now, if some of these young players (Mickey, Holmes, Young ) impress enough to be packaged with a few #1's and pry Cousins away from Karl and the Kings......
....I was in Seattle when Karl and Kemp went at it and Karl said his dream team would be 5 starters between 6-6 and 6-8...

I wonder if that quote ever reached Boogie.

Re: Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2015, 08:11:33 PM »

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if Hunter & Rozier prove to be quality pros then great, great for them, great for Ainge. but the likelihood of us getting 2 All-anything's in the late 1st rnd. is highly unlikely. the truth is these guys will probably be like the rest of the players on this team - a team of nice players but none are supreme talents.

I'd rather be waiting on lottery players to develop than late rnd. picks. I'd rather see lottery players used as trade assets than late rnd. picks. the value is higher.

when it's all said and done, if this team finds itself in the playoffs they'll lose to a team with more talent.

Why? Becaus of where they were picked?  Yo be trollin'.  Look at your history and you'll see that draft position many times has little to do with your nba talent level.

Beat me to it, I don't understand what GW means by he/she would rather worry about lottery talent than mid first round talent. Don't get that thinking at all.

Re: Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2015, 08:51:27 PM »

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if Hunter & Rozier prove to be quality pros then great, great for them, great for Ainge. but the likelihood of us getting 2 All-anything's in the late 1st rnd. is highly unlikely. the truth is these guys will probably be like the rest of the players on this team - a team of nice players but none are supreme talents.

I'd rather be waiting on lottery players to develop than late rnd. picks. I'd rather see lottery players used as trade assets than late rnd. picks. the value is higher.

when it's all said and done, if this team finds itself in the playoffs they'll lose to a team with more talent.

Why? Becaus of where they were picked?  Yo be trollin'.  Look at your history and you'll see that draft position many times has little to do with your nba talent level.
if we're rebuilding and taking the time to rebuild with young guys, why not do it with the guys that are "supposed" to be the best of the draft class?

if you(or anyone for that matter) would take what we got over towns or okafor you're either smoking crack or someone who can't look at the situation objectively...and if that's the case? not someone worth discussing it with.

Re: Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2015, 09:00:49 PM »

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Way too early for any of this. Winslow may yet prove to be a stud and all of our picks could be out of the NBA in 3 years. It could be the other way around too. But the summer league is not a good barometer for any of that.


Re: Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2015, 10:08:33 PM »

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Summer league has done something to demonstrate why DA made the choices he did on draft night. The NBA season will prove if the choices are justified. I am keen to see what happens when the summer league players who go to the NBA are melded with the rest of the squad. I am optimistic about what the Celtics can achieve but not getting carried away. Things could have turned out worse.

Re: Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2015, 12:20:11 AM »

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It depends on which 6 picks were offered but that is very steep. That being said, Winslow looks like a stud in the making.