Celtics acquire Perry Jones III from the Thunder

[Endless Paradise]

Again what role is perry supposed to play?  Your comparing two different types of players with two different skill sets.  One player that fit A need and one that the coach had no specific need for.  So exactly what role is pj3 supposed to step up into?  Powe forward? Center?  His skill set doesn't allow him to be much more than a sf in the offense they ran which surprise surprise they have someone already there that anyone with half a brain knows they aren't gonna move!  Yor suggesting he work his butt off to take Durants spot.  Not gonna happen and not why he was drafted.  He was drafted to play backup.  A guy who was the man for his team at Baylor and he's supposed to be ok with playing backup?  It's very feasible that a guy coming from where he did and that struggled with confidence/motor could very well have checked out given his limited opportunities.  I'm not even suggesting that's the definitive case but let's not throw the kid under the bus when he's not even been in a role where he can actually have some incentive to be the starter somewhere.   I think it's been proven this past two years that guys that get the opportunity to show what they have can be a valuable commodity to the celtics.  i like how to omitted the games he played well for his team during his starting role in okc as well

1) His role was to play backup to Durant. What was Reggie Jackson's role in 2012-13? To play backup to Westbrook. What did Perry do when Durant was out? Nothing spectacular. What did Reggie do when Westbrook was out? Show he was deserving of a larger role. It is not rocket science.

2) Simply getting into the rotation wasn't enough incentive for Perry to play well? Yeah, no. Perry had ample opportunities to show he deserved a larger role on the team.

3) He started 13 games this past year. He played well in three of those games and they were all in the first week of November. Whoopty-doo.

[rollie mass]

he is an upgrade from brandon wright thats for sure-

[Forza Juventus]

I think it's a good trade low risk with the possibility of a reward. It worked with Jerebko.

[jayk009]

I don't know if you guys remember this but last year when durant and westbrook were both out he was their leading scorer the first few games. Then when he was hitting his stride he got really unlucky and got injured which ruined his season.

In the limited sample size I was amazed how much better he looked. He was very composed, didn't force bad shots and most importantly he was shooting with confidence. I am convinced that if it wasn't for his injury he would have jad a breakout year.

Assuming the injury didn't destroy his confidence I think he will suprise alot of people.

[danglertx]

PJ3 should be just what we need to bring home a title this year.  Can we get him in uniform before the playoffs begin tomorrow?  Las Vegas title here we come!

[crimson_stallion]

This is an F. Guy can't play and takes time from other players who they can develop. I would throw Young out there 30 minutes a night over Perry Jones...he's so good the Thunder gave him up for nothing!! Presti wins by getting an exception for him instead of just waiving him. Ainge needs to get with the program and tank.

I think that's just silly...

Perry Jones has infinitely more potential than James Young.  The biggest knock on Jones is his motor - Young has hardly done anything to show has one of those either.

Perry Jones has actually had a few big games as an NBA player - he scored 30+ points once if I recall correctly and had a couple of 15+ point games in the same stretch.  Young couldn't eve put up numbers like that against D-League competition in the Summer League.

Anyways I'm actually pretty excited about this.  Jones is an elite athletic with amazing physical gifts - the only thing holding him back has been mentality, and if any man can fix that it's Brad Stevens.

Worst case if they can't fix it, then the guy is on an expiring rookie deal and can be ditched without much trouble - or simply sent down to the D-League until his contract expires.

At the end of the day, it cost us nothing, and we probably upgraded our 2nd round pick in the deal too.  Anybody who complains about a deal like this...I just can't comprehend.  It's never a bad thing when you get something for nothing.

[Endless Paradise]

I don't know if you guys remember this but last year when durant and westbrook were both out he was their leading scorer the first few games. Then when he was hitting his stride he got really unlucky and got injured which ruined his season.

In the limited sample size I was amazed how much better he looked. He was very composed, didn't force bad shots and most importantly he was shooting with confidence. I am convinced that if it wasn't for his injury he would have jad a breakout year.

Assuming the injury didn't destroy his confidence I think he will suprise alot of people.

The funny thing is I've never once ruled out that the injury may have been why he struggled. In fact, I would be a hell of a lot more accepting of that explanation for his poor 2014-15 season than the "he didn't get a shot! ;_;" argument. But I'm skeptical. Jones started out really promising and then reverted to... the exact same Jones we saw the two years prior. I'm not readily willing to excuse his performance as anything other than him underperforming as he's been knocked for doing dating back to his college days.

[danglertx]

I disagree.  I'm not saying this move in particular but when you get something for nothing, you usually get what you pay for.

[Cman]

I don't know if you guys remember this but last year when durant and westbrook were both out he was their leading scorer the first few games. Then when he was hitting his stride he got really unlucky and got injured which ruined his season.

In the limited sample size I was amazed how much better he looked. He was very composed, didn't force bad shots and most importantly he was shooting with confidence. I am convinced that if it wasn't for his injury he would have jad a breakout year.

Assuming the injury didn't destroy his confidence I think he will suprise alot of people.

Injuries are a big issue with him.
Regardless the trade is a win because of the Detroit second rounder and the flier we can take on Jones. It makes it harder for Holmes to stick but I wouldn't be surprised if both Jones and Holmes are cut before the season.

[Ogaju]

this is the funniest thread since that guy from Cleveland got showered with unwanted TPs during the playoffs. Keep it coming.

[guava_wrench]

I won't discount guys due to motor. Look at Boris Diaw. Some guys only click in the right situation.

I don't expect much, but I love the move. He gets to be part of a real offense - not the nonsense OKC has historically run. It will hurt him though if his 3 is not improved. Turner can get away with a subpar 3 because of how he facilitates.

[guava_wrench]

I disagree.  I'm not saying this move in particular but when you get something for nothing, you usually get what you pay for.

Not true with teams trying to clear space. The cost is taking on salary and risk.

[cb8883]

I disagree.  I'm not saying this move in particular but when you get something for nothing, you usually get what you pay for.

Green Teamers love Danny Ainge moves. It's awful really when the only true move to do when you're on the treadmill is liquidate your "assets" of role players and tank.

[tarheelsxxiii]

I'm fine with this in that we got him for nothing, as long as he doesn't take a roster spot from someone more deserving or with higher upside. I hope sound decision-making is used there.

The extreme optimism floors me, though. The optimist camp flames the pessimist camp for a lot of reasons, yet the latter seem to back up their opinions with stats more often than the former.

Per ESPN, he played 47 games (albeit limited mins at 14.7 per game) in the 2014-2015 season. He has the second-worst  documented real plus minus in the league among SFs (85/86) with a -5.86 (D = -2.07; O = 3.79). His PER is ranked 84/96 at 6.91 (league average is 15).

While these stats obviously aren't perfect (usage, teammates), I have a really hard time understanding why some people are so excited for the acquisition. Some evidence to support the green goggles would be helpful, here. Perhaps I am missing something others are aware of that I just haven't noticed in this thread - but the optimism seems to be grounded mostly in opinion/conjecture.

[JoeyAinge]

PJ3 will average 15ppg this year for us and we got em for the cheap. Get rid of Turner now.