Sully or Olynyk?

[Celtics18]

I'm not surprised to see that the early results are fairly close.

With twenty votes cast, Kelly's got a slight lead with 60% of the vote.

[viulo]

Olynyk.
I think their value is close (Sullinger better rebounder but with injuries/weight problems, Olynyk better shooter but afraid/slow to shoot). I don't see any of them justifying the contract other teams will possibly offer. Because of that, it'd probably be wise to trade them in the meantime and get something in return, instead of waiting for them to reach free agency and guaranteeing a contract we would not want to match.
Considering Sullinger is a RFA this year and Olynyk has another year to go (despite being older), I'd prefer to keep Olynyk.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Olynyk.
I think their value is close (Sullinger better rebounder but with injuries/weight problems, Olynyk better shooter but afraid/slow to shoot). I don't see any of them justifying the contract other teams will possibly offer. Because of that, it'd probably be wise to trade them in the meantime and get something in return, instead of waiting for them to reach free agency and guaranteeing a contract we would not want to match.
Considering Sullinger is a RFA this year and Olynyk has another year to go (despite being older), I'd prefer to keep Olynyk.

You know that Olynyk has missed just as many games in the past two seasons as Sullinger? So injuries is really a non-factor here.

[crimson_stallion]

Olynyk because if you look at his advanced stats and per-36 minute stats for his career so far, they really are very good. 

16.1 Points
3 Offensive Rebounds
5.6 Defensive Rebounds
8.6 Total Rebounds
2.8 Assists
1.3 Steals
0.8 Blocks

47.1% FG
34.9% 3PT
74.4% FT

+1.79 Offensive Real Plus Minus
+1.71 Defensive Real Plus Minus
+3.5 Overall Real Plus Minus

Offensively versatility is very impressive:
* Ability to score inside (37.9% of his career attempts inside 3 feet, where he shot 66.7%)
* Ability to score from midrange (41.2% FG from 10-16 Feet)
* Ability to score from perimeter (28.1% of career attempts from three, where he shot 34.9%)
* Ability to get to the line (25.8% career Free Throw Rate, and shot 74.4% there)
* Ablity to pass the ball (2.8 Assists Per 36 minutes, 12.7% Assist Percentage)
* Relatively efficient scorer (1.24 PTS Per FGA)

With numbers like that the only areas he's lacking in are:

1) Ability to score on post ups (he gets inside off his dribble / drives
2) Inability to stay on the court due to fouls

If Olynyk can get his fouls down to the point where he can play 32 MPG -34 MPG then what you have is quite literally a poor man's Dirk with supreme offensive versatility - and the NBA is all about versatility these days.

I also love Olynyk's attitude, even if he could use a bit more ego.  People mistake his polite personality, his 'finesse' style of play and his lack of brute strength as a lack of mental toughness.  Olynyk is not a mentally weak player - he is never afraid to put his body on the line to take a charge right in the chest.  He never backed down or gives up when he has a guy 40 pounds heavier than him beating bruising him in the post.  He's proven he's not afraid to play through pain (black eye incident).  He's proven he's a willing worker (every praised the effort he put in to conditioning prior to last season, and the difference was clear).

Olynyk is not soft, his game just isn't based around a power game. 

Sully is skilled no question about it, but his versatility is lacking on both ends of the court at the present time, and I question his motivation to get better.  He seems like the type who puts in as many hours as he needs to just to keep himself afloat and to keep himself on the court - doesn't seem like he has that desire to be the best he can possibly be.

I could be wrong, but that's what I see.  It's a shame, because I feel like Sully could be a really good player if he truly set his mind to it, but it's been three years now and I've seen no signs to indicate he'll ever do that.  A poor man's Vin Baker I think. 

[TheFlex]

Feels like they're both earmarked for an eventual trade, though.

Keep your real life out of this we're dealing with Poll logic here and the poll says one stays. 

I thought the poll always includes the right answer among its choices, and that alternatives have been rightfully marginalized? 

[NYDan]

I think Sullinger is the current better player with a more polished low post game and Olynyk the one with more unique tools and a better shooting touch. Sully has injury/work ethic concerns and takes a lot of threes for not being great at it, Olynyk falls into the trap of being too passive and needs to play bigger under the rim.

Sullinger is probably more dependable but Olynyk is putting the work in and will be a real matchup problem if he continues to improve. Think he can reach his potential so I'd go with Olynyk, but wouldn't break off a deal if a team wanted him over Sullinger.

[GreenWarrior]

KO has shown nothing yet and he's on the verge of being a complete bust.

I'm curious what your reasoning is for this, given that he's been above-average productive in both of his first two seasons, and stats generally indicate that the team is at the very least not hurt by his presence on the court. 

He may not have much of a ceiling, but KO has definitely shown, I think, that's he's a rotation-caliber NBA player.  Yes, he requires the right fit given his defensive limitations.  He wouldn't get playing time on every single team in the league.  But it's hard to call him a bust given where he was drafted.

Kelly's not as exciting as a few of the guys taken after him, but you can't blame him for the fact that Danny Ainge reached on a safe pick.

he had a couple stretches this season where I was thinking he might be something. then he cooled down, then he got injured, I don't think the officials will ever give him the benefit of the doubt even if and when he might play good D. sometimes it seems he has 3 fouls on him before he even steps off the bus.

I just get the feeling there's always gonna be an excuse as to why KO didn't play well.

yet the one game where he looked like a solid pro just so happened when they visited Toronto in Toronto. I'm not callin the dude lazy, but this one game stuck out to me and I'm sitting here wondering why he can't do it all the time. extra motivation? trade him to Toronto then.