DeAndre Jordan agrees to four-year, $88M deal with Clippers, reneges on Dallas

[BudweiserCeltic]

Paul Pierce @paulpierce34
That's why they brought me here lol

[Snakehead]

So, good luck to Doc Rivers ever completing a trade with another team again, right?  I mean, he's got to get blackballed by other GMs for doing this.

I have no idea what's going to happen here, but I feel like there could be significant fall-out.  A lot of plans were based on Jordan's... I keep bringing up Biyombo as an example.  If you're his agent and you check out the NBA landscape for centers and realize that Dallas already has Jordan, Lakers already have Hibbert... options are dwindling and you best take money from the first team that offers (4 mil from Toronto), there's a real possibility that you could have gotten more elsewhere, but backing out of your Toronto agreement might still be frowned on.  All sorts of free agent signings and trades may need to be reconsidered now.

When you start messing with multi million dollar contracts and billion dollar companies, people tend to get upset.

The logical move is to shorten the dead period where teams can talk to FAs and informally agree but can't officially sign anything.  Maybe even eliminate it altogether.  It's seemed like an anachronism for a while now, anyway.

Exactly.  People are getting very worked up but the system is poorly thought out and under it this kind of stuff will happen.  As I said earlier, it has before, this isn't' the first time. They should change the system.

Enough with the "unwritten rules" stuff.

[SparzWizard]

Bottom line is the Clippers just did not have any other move, they would have ended up in the lottery without DJ. They virtually had to go on all fours to him.

Nice going NBA. Way to teach the young fans about honor.

Clippers still had CP3 and Blake Griffin, two superstars. I think they'd still barely make the playoffs without Jordan.

[LarBrd33]

Anyone think Amir will do the same?

Lol... like he'd get 12 mil elsewhere? 

[Rhyso]

A lesson for teams here should be until a player PHYSICALLY sign the papers, they are still on the market and it's fair game. The dude had every right under the current system to change his mind, maybe the Mavs should have been working on building a better team than working on a top notch sales pitch. We lost out on David West who can actually hit a free throw, time to move on.

[LarBrd33]

A lesson for teams here should be until a player PHYSICALLY sign the papers, they are still on the market and it's fair game. The dude had every right under the current system to change his mind, maybe the Mavs should have been working on building a better team than working on a top notch sales pitch. We lost out on David West who can actually hit a free throw, time to move on.

I can't imagine others around the league are going to be too pleased with the Clippers or DeAndre's agency.  I expect some kind of blowback from this.  There's a reason why this is almost unheard of.

[LarBrd33]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 4h4 hours ago

Here's concern within some front offices right now: Will Mavericks come chasing our committed free agents if they have new-found cap space?

Tomorrow will be interesting. 

[MJohnnyboy]

A lesson for teams here should be until a player PHYSICALLY sign the papers, they are still on the market and it's fair game. The dude had every right under the current system to change his mind, maybe the Mavs should have been working on building a better team than working on a top notch sales pitch. We lost out on David West who can actually hit a free throw, time to move on.

The difference is West's deal with the Celtics would have been done had the Celtics found a taker for Jermaine O'Neal's contract so he could fit in the cap. They were going to have one with our team of the hour, the Mavericks, had the Chris Paul trade gone through because the Mavericks would have used their trade exception on O'Neal, but when they found out they could have had Lamar Odom instead for free, they took him.

Deandre Jordan flat out turned his back on this deal like a coward. Not that I'm complaining, this could benefit the Celtics tremendously this year.

[Rhyso]

A lesson for teams here should be until a player PHYSICALLY sign the papers, they are still on the market and it's fair game. The dude had every right under the current system to change his mind, maybe the Mavs should have been working on building a better team than working on a top notch sales pitch. We lost out on David West who can actually hit a free throw, time to move on.

I can't imagine others around the league are going to be too pleased with the Clippers or DeAndre's agency.  I expect some kind of blowback from this.  There's a reason why this is almost unheard of.

Oh definately I'm sure there will be, can't see this not being brought up in the next CBA. Where else would you here of this happening aside from the Clippers though? Lol. Really doesn't suprise me with all this drama. But if it's almost unheard of, should action still be taken with this one off situation?

[crimson_stallion]

I really don't think you can blame Doc / Clippers for this one.  They are doing what any team does - taking every opportunity they have to improve their roster.  The Clipper's aren't the ones who made a promise / commitment to the Mavs. 

It's like the hypothetical scenario where a Man-A's wife cheats on him by having a one night stand with Man-B (who her husband does not know).  Who is really at fault?  Is it Man-B (a single guy, taking advantage of an opportunity presented to him) or the woman, who has been disloyal and committed adultery?

In this case you could argue that the Clipper's going after Jordan was somewhat dishonorable (given they knew he had made a verbal commitment already), but at the end of the day it 'takes two to tango' and it was Jordan who ultimately had the power to decide whether to:

a) Make the ethically correct move
b) Make the move that provided greater benefit to him, and ignored ethics

If you ask him the blame of this situation is on Jordan, and Jordan alone.

[Adelaide Celt]

This Mavs fan is taking it well.

Warning: Swearing, WWE style tirade.

https://youtu.be/4MhD3YfnAsU

[LarBrd33]

This Mavs fan is taking it well.

Warning: Swearing, WWE style tirade.

https://youtu.be/4MhD3YfnAsU

Yeah that's funny.  He's obviously just looking for internet fame, but parts of it made me laugh.

[get_banners]

This is on Jordan, not the Clippers (since he is the one who initiated contact, from all reports), and quite honestly, this is on the waiting period the league instituted. Nothing was official, so he has every right to change his mind. People do this in the real world all the time. This COULD have major reverberations on free agency, and the threat of that might be enough to get the league to modify the current policy. The relevant question for us: how bad will Dallas be? Unless they trade Dirk and Parsons, I can't see them tanking. I don't see them making the playoffs, but I can't see them being the 7th worst team in the lottery, given some of the teams below them in the west (LA, Sac, Minnesota, and Denver should all probably be worse than Dallas, and NY, Philly, Orlando, and Brooklyn might all be worse out east).

[LarBrd33]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 4h4 hours ago

Safest prediction in the NBA right now: The moratorium period will never be the same. Change surely coming because endless fallout awaits

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 4h4 hours ago

Teams leaguewide that have merely been watching this drama unfold are bound to join Mavs in the protest that surely follows. Because  ...

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 4h4 hours ago

Because Clips just proved that the system, as it currently operates, actually encourages teams to convince players to renege on their word

There will be fallout from this.  If Boston wasn't in the midst of such a disappointing offseason, I'd be a little worried... but I wouldn't be too upset if we just collectively decided on a do-over. 

[colincb]

Marc Stein ?@ESPNSteinLine 4h4 hours ago

Safest prediction in the NBA right now: The moratorium period will never be the same. Change surely coming because endless fallout awaits

Marc Stein ?@ESPNSteinLine 4h4 hours ago

Teams leaguewide that have merely been watching this drama unfold are bound to join Mavs in the protest that surely follows. Because  ...

Marc Stein ?@ESPNSteinLine 4h4 hours ago

Because Clips just proved that the system, as it currently operates, actually encourages teams to convince players to renege on their word

There will be fallout from this. If Boston wasn't in the midst of such a disappointing offseason, I'd be a little worried... but I wouldn't be too upset if we just collectively decided on a do-over.

Woj

Adrian Wojnarowski ?@WojYahooNBA 27m27 minutes ago

Several GM's solution to changing moratorium: Push back start of free agency until now, once the salary cap numbers are calculated.