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Salary cap could be $2 million higher than projected
« on: June 30, 2015, 11:38:32 PM »

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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/25229735/sources-salary-cap-could-be-significantly-higher-than-projected

What is expected to be a frenzied free-agent period in the NBA is about to become even more chaotic, with league sources telling CBSSports.com Tuesday night that the 2015-16 salary cap is expected to come in as much as $2 million higher than initial projections.

The revenue numbers upon which the cap is based came in healthier than anticipated, which could lead to significantly more spending room per team in the free agency period that kicks off at 12:01 a.m. ET.

Teams have been operating on an estimated cap of $67.1 million for the 2015-16 season, but the National Basketball Players Association revealed at the annual agents' summit in Los Angeles this week that the actual cap is expected to come in at least $1 million higher, and perhaps as much as $2 million higher, two people familiar with the matter said. The official number won't be set until July 8, when league audits will be completed at the end of the league's moratorium period on free-agent signings. Players and teams can begin negotiating deals after midnight ET Wednesday.

The luxury-tax threshold, projected to be $81.6 million for the coming season, also is expected to be pegged at a significantly higher number, sources said.


Really don't like this. Keeps giving breathing room to teams with poor financials. We'll see how this affects the projected MAX numbers for free-agents.

Re: Salary cap could be $2 million higher than projected
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2015, 11:42:22 PM »

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It's actually a good thing for the C's.  More cap room is always good.

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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2015, 11:44:46 PM »

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It's actually a good thing for the C's.  More cap room is always good.

We'll see. I saw an easy road for us to generate the necessary cap space. It's making it a lot easier for those teams that didn't have.

But we'll see.

Re: Salary cap could be $2 million higher than projected
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2015, 12:37:07 PM »

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It's actually a good thing for the C's.  More cap room is always good.

Here's a potential consequence:

Josh Robbins @JoshuaBRobbins
So, if the tax line will be higher than originally projected, as esteemed @KBergCBS wrote, that would help the Magic bring Harris back.

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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2015, 12:42:27 PM »

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It's actually a good thing for the C's.  More cap room is always good.

Here's a potential consequence:

Josh Robbins @JoshuaBRobbins
So, if the tax line will be higher than originally projected, as esteemed @KBergCBS wrote, that would help the Magic bring Harris back.

Not really.  Harris always was going to count his cap hold against the cap for Orlando, which is $6 million.  The Magic have room to max Milsap and then sign Harris to a new deal if the cap is $66 million, much less $69 million.  It all depends if Orlando wants to match a deal for Harris.

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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2015, 12:58:02 PM »

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It's actually a good thing for the C's.  More cap room is always good.

Here's a potential consequence:

Josh Robbins @JoshuaBRobbins
So, if the tax line will be higher than originally projected, as esteemed @KBergCBS wrote, that would help the Magic bring Harris back.

Not really.  Harris always was going to count his cap hold against the cap for Orlando, which is $6 million.  The Magic have room to max Milsap and then sign Harris to a new deal if the cap is $66 million, much less $69 million.  It all depends if Orlando wants to match a deal for Harris.

Well I meant about getting into the luxury tax or not, if Orlando doesn't want to go into tax land. Haven't checked the math so not sure how far away they are from being taxed.

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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2015, 01:23:25 PM »

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It's actually a good thing for the C's.  More cap room is always good.

Here's a potential consequence:

Josh Robbins @JoshuaBRobbins
So, if the tax line will be higher than originally projected, as esteemed @KBergCBS wrote, that would help the Magic bring Harris back.

Not really.  Harris always was going to count his cap hold against the cap for Orlando, which is $6 million.  The Magic have room to max Milsap and then sign Harris to a new deal if the cap is $66 million, much less $69 million.  It all depends if Orlando wants to match a deal for Harris.

Well I meant about getting into the luxury tax or not, if Orlando doesn't want to go into tax land. Haven't checked the math so not sure how far away they are from being taxed.

Looks like Magic not matching anyways.

Haven't been paying much attention to the tax situation this year since been focusing on us operating under the cap.

But there should be scenarios out there where a team was unwilling to keep FAs because of tax considerations, but now they might have a chance to keep them.

Also, potential about more teams having access to full MLE.

Re: Salary cap could be $2 million higher than projected
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2015, 01:37:19 PM »

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It's actually a good thing for the C's.  More cap room is always good.

Here's a potential consequence:

Josh Robbins @JoshuaBRobbins
So, if the tax line will be higher than originally projected, as esteemed @KBergCBS wrote, that would help the Magic bring Harris back.

Not really.  Harris always was going to count his cap hold against the cap for Orlando, which is $6 million.  The Magic have room to max Milsap and then sign Harris to a new deal if the cap is $66 million, much less $69 million.  It all depends if Orlando wants to match a deal for Harris.

Well I meant about getting into the luxury tax or not, if Orlando doesn't want to go into tax land. Haven't checked the math so not sure how far away they are from being taxed.

Looks like Magic not matching anyways.

Haven't been paying much attention to the tax situation this year since been focusing on us operating under the cap.

But there should be scenarios out there where a team was unwilling to keep FAs because of tax considerations, but now they might have a chance to keep them.

Also, potential about more teams having access to full MLE.

Is there a link about them not matching?

As for the luxury tax, the Magic could max Milsap and Harris and be about $4 million under the tax with an 11 man roster.  This might prevent them from retaining Kyle O'Quinn, but he'd be somewhat of a luxury wih Milsap on the roster.  They could have access to the big MLE, but would not be able to use the entire amount and stay under the currently projected $81.6 million tax.

As for more teams having access to the MLE, I don't think there are any players we're targeting at that salary level, except Crowder I guess, but I have no problem matching an MLE for him.

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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2015, 01:40:31 PM »

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It's actually a good thing for the C's.  More cap room is always good.

Here's a potential consequence:

Josh Robbins @JoshuaBRobbins
So, if the tax line will be higher than originally projected, as esteemed @KBergCBS wrote, that would help the Magic bring Harris back.

Not really.  Harris always was going to count his cap hold against the cap for Orlando, which is $6 million.  The Magic have room to max Milsap and then sign Harris to a new deal if the cap is $66 million, much less $69 million.  It all depends if Orlando wants to match a deal for Harris.

Well I meant about getting into the luxury tax or not, if Orlando doesn't want to go into tax land. Haven't checked the math so not sure how far away they are from being taxed.

Looks like Magic not matching anyways.

Haven't been paying much attention to the tax situation this year since been focusing on us operating under the cap.

But there should be scenarios out there where a team was unwilling to keep FAs because of tax considerations, but now they might have a chance to keep them.

Also, potential about more teams having access to full MLE.

Is there a link about them not matching?

As for the luxury tax, the Magic could max Milsap and Harris and be about $4 million under the tax with an 11 man roster.  This might prevent them from retaining Kyle O'Quinn, but he'd be somewhat of a luxury wih Milsap on the roster.  They could have access to the big MLE, but would not be able to use the entire amount and stay under the currently projected $81.6 million tax.

As for more teams having access to the MLE, I don't think there are any players we're targeting at that salary level, except Crowder I guess, but I have no problem matching an MLE for him.

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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2015, 01:47:29 PM »

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It's actually a good thing for the C's.  More cap room is always good.

Here's a potential consequence:

Josh Robbins @JoshuaBRobbins
So, if the tax line will be higher than originally projected, as esteemed @KBergCBS wrote, that would help the Magic bring Harris back.

Not really.  Harris always was going to count his cap hold against the cap for Orlando, which is $6 million.  The Magic have room to max Milsap and then sign Harris to a new deal if the cap is $66 million, much less $69 million.  It all depends if Orlando wants to match a deal for Harris.

Well I meant about getting into the luxury tax or not, if Orlando doesn't want to go into tax land. Haven't checked the math so not sure how far away they are from being taxed.

I would not be opposed to Orlando getting screwed by the luxury tax.
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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2015, 01:53:11 PM »

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It's actually a good thing for the C's.  More cap room is always good.

Here's a potential consequence:

Josh Robbins @JoshuaBRobbins
So, if the tax line will be higher than originally projected, as esteemed @KBergCBS wrote, that would help the Magic bring Harris back.

Not really.  Harris always was going to count his cap hold against the cap for Orlando, which is $6 million.  The Magic have room to max Milsap and then sign Harris to a new deal if the cap is $66 million, much less $69 million.  It all depends if Orlando wants to match a deal for Harris.

Well I meant about getting into the luxury tax or not, if Orlando doesn't want to go into tax land. Haven't checked the math so not sure how far away they are from being taxed.

I would not be opposed to Orlando getting screwed by the luxury tax.

For one year? Meh. That's a bit meaningless this year honestly. They can save up next year if needed easily.