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Re: comparison of Rozier, Hunter, Mickey, Thornton
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2015, 10:38:45 PM »

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There is that mention of Young again. Flip Young? Why would anyone want him and what do you think anyone would give you for him? He's just awful. Nobody wants him - even Philly.

Re: comparison of Rozier, Hunter, Mickey, Thornton
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2015, 10:46:09 PM »

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Call me crazy but my comp for RJ is Steph in college. Rozier looks like DWade

I call you crazy.

Seriously now, I like these two, esp. Rozier, quite a lot already.

But remember how long it took us to figure out who exactly Smart is. Most ppl expected him to be a good penetrator and a bad 3p shooter and (at least in his first year) he was the opposite. And very few expected he would be such a great defender - I have no prob admitting I was surprised.

So, I say let's wait at the very least for their first appearances in the summer league.

Re: comparison of Rozier, Hunter, Mickey, Thornton
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2015, 11:23:31 PM »

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Rozier- Eric Bledsoe
RJ Hunter- Marco Bellineli
Jordan Mickey - Brandon Bass + Shot blocking
James Young- Aaron Afflalo
Marcus Smart- Wesley Mathews

*I love Terry Rozier... Made a comment about him before the draft and a few people said it would be a bad pick. However i love his toughness, moxie, competitiveness, fire, swagger, whatever you want to call it. He has that drive to be great. Like I said before the draft, if he becomes a point guard, he has legit all-star potential like other outstanding guards taken outside the lottery in recent years (Jeff Teague, Ty Lawson, Kyle Lowry) all of those guys are hardworking tough guys much like Rozier. He has very good scoring ability and is lighting quick. Hard not to see a little Wade in his game. Defense is Smart like. Doesn't even have to be an elite assist guy but 6-8 per night will due later in his career.

*RJ Hunter is so smooth. Quick release. I believe in his shot. He and Young can become a great shooting duo for us. Both guys are silky smooth shooting the ball. I like RJ Hunter handling the ball. Good in pick and roll and create for others. He can be a starter if his shot really is as good as they say it is and I think it is. He has had good percentages in the past. He can play some point at 6'6. Reminds me of Nik Stauskus and Sergey Karasev along with Bellineli. He can play 1 through 3 on offense. He's not that bad athletically. Actually pretty solid and quick twitch.

*Mickey is good. Solid pick in the second round. A little undersized but it doesn't even seem to matter in the NBA anymore especially after witnessing the Warriors win the title playing Barnes and Draymond Green at the 4 and 5. Mickey is bigger than both of those guys. For some reason I see him being able to contribute to a championship run which is big praise for a rookie. When we picked him flashes of Leon Powe flooded my mind. I think he ends up somewhere in between Brandon Bass and Paul Millsap when he reaches his ceiling which is great for a second round pick. Can't wait to see if his shot blocking is the real deal. I hope it translates. Honestly a little scared that it won't because of his lackluster standing reach. Hope he proves me wrong.

*Ice liked James Young from day 1 at Kentucky. He's way more than a shooter. His scoring instincts are extremely impressive for a 19 yr old. His handle needs work and his first step isn't spectacular but he's added 15 pounds of muscle and 3 inches to his spring. Those 2 things will certainly help. He will be able to run off screens and knock down shots in motion which is an extremely hard Shot to make. He's smooth he's a better athlete now and definitely above average from an athletic standpoint now. Needs confidence, needs a better handle (he's been working) and a better first step ( he's been working). Like this kid alot. Probably has the highest chance of becoming a 18 point scorer on team along with Sullinger and obviously Thomas who has done it.

*Marcus Smart is a shooting guard. That's OK though. He was a better shooter than every thought. Hopefully he can get up to 38 percent from deep. I'm pretty sure he already got a defensive team vote (correct me if I'm wrong). One day he'll make that all defensive team. He's a beast on that side of the ball. He's gonna be a starter for a long time. His heart. He is a Celtics. Reminds me of Joe Dumars, Wesley Mathews types with a splash of Gary Payton because of his ability to play a little point guard. I think he's a career 14 point 5 rebound 5 assist 2 steal guy. I would be happy with that on a championship team. The backcourt of Terry Rozier and Marcus Smart is very exciting. They can become the best defensive backcourt in the NBA in a few years. It gives Boston nice offensive flexibility because both guys can handle the ball for certain stretches. Rozier is a more talented ball handler and quicker off the bounce so he plays most of the 1 spot. Imagine a Eric Bledsoe/ Wesley Mathews backcourt.... That's pretty good.

Re: comparison of Rozier, Hunter, Mickey, Thornton
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2015, 11:28:29 PM »

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There is that mention of Young again. Flip Young? Why would anyone want him and what do you think anyone would give you for him? He's just awful. Nobody wants him - even Philly.
where are you basing your views from? Some garbage minutes in a season where he wasn't meant to play in? The kid is 19 years old.

Re: comparison of Rozier, Hunter, Mickey, Thornton
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2015, 11:34:34 PM »

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Call me crazy but my comp for RJ is Steph in college. Rozier looks like DWade

I call you crazy.

Seriously now, I like these two, esp. Rozier, quite a lot already.

But remember how long it took us to figure out who exactly Smart is. Most ppl expected him to be a good penetrator and a bad 3p shooter and (at least in his first year) he was the opposite. And very few expected he would be such a great defender - I have no prob admitting I was surprised.

So, I say let's wait at the very least for their first appearances in the summer league.
I agree that Summer League will be a good place to gauge their games, and how well they will play in Steven's offense. I admit my Rozier comparison is a bit of a overstatement, but one thing that I can say about these 2 rookies is that their shiftiness at the rim is quite good.

Re: comparison of Rozier, Hunter, Mickey, Thornton
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2015, 11:40:25 PM »

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Mickey -  Taj Gibson/Warrick


I don't agree with this comparison.  Mickey is a shot blocking machine.  Neither Gibson nor Warrick were known for blocking shots.  Off the top of my head, I can't think of many 6'8" shotblockers. 
Before a game on Christmas against the Pacers, Bird told Chuck Person that he had a present for him. During the game, Bird shot a 3-pointer in front of Person. Immediately after releasing the ball, Bird said to Person, "Merry F!#*ing Christmas!" and then the shot went in.

Re: comparison of Rozier, Hunter, Mickey, Thornton
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2015, 12:07:39 AM »

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Rozier = Dennis Schroder / Cory Joseph
Hunter = Jeremy Lamb / Wayne Ellington
Mickey = Amir Johnson / Lou Amundson
Thornton = D-League / Euro chucker
This is by far the most reasonable post here.

Re: comparison of Rozier, Hunter, Mickey, Thornton
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2015, 12:10:29 AM »

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Mickey = Malik Rose
Rozier = Steve Francis
Butler = Jason Kapono
Thornton = Lester Hudson

This off season rides on FA and trades. Gotta get crafty because the draft isn't getting us there.


Re: comparison of Rozier, Hunter, Mickey, Thornton
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2015, 12:25:52 AM »

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Mickey = Malik Rose
Rozier = Steve Francis
Butler = Jason Kapono
Thornton = Lester Hudson

This off season rides on FA and trades. Gotta get crafty because the draft isn't getting us there.

who is Butler?

Re: comparison of Rozier, Hunter, Mickey, Thornton
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2015, 12:27:06 AM »

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Rozier = Dennis Schroder / Cory Joseph
Hunter = Jeremy Lamb / Wayne Ellington
Mickey = Amir Johnson / Lou Amundson
Thornton = D-League / Euro chucker
This is by far the most reasonable post here.

Mickey has more skills than Johnson and Amundson.  Neither of these guys are shotblockers also

Re: comparison of Rozier, Hunter, Mickey, Thornton
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2015, 12:27:49 AM »

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Mickey -  Taj Gibson/Warrick


I don't agree with this comparison.  Mickey is a shot blocking machine.  Neither Gibson nor Warrick were known for blocking shots.  Off the top of my head, I can't think of many 6'8" shotblockers.

Gibson is not at the top end but he blocks his share of shots. Mickey is just more explosive and will block more in the nba

Re: comparison of Rozier, Hunter, Mickey, Thornton
« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2015, 01:24:13 PM »

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Rozier = Dennis Schroder / Cory Joseph
Hunter = Jeremy Lamb / Wayne Ellington
Mickey = Amir Johnson / Lou Amundson
Thornton = D-League / Euro chucker
This is by far the most reasonable post here.

Mickey has more skills than Johnson and Amundson.  Neither of these guys are shotblockers also


I'm sensing that you have an unrealistically inflated sense of how good these players are going to be.

If Mickey were half as talented / skilled as you seem to think, he'd have been a lottery talent.
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Re: comparison of Rozier, Hunter, Mickey, Thornton
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2015, 01:36:50 PM »

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If Mickey turns into Taj Gibson I would cry with joy.

Re: comparison of Rozier, Hunter, Mickey, Thornton
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2015, 07:22:16 PM »

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Anybody saw or remember this shot.  I hope we see a few of these kind of shots next season. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmcOo-bGJp0

Re: comparison of Rozier, Hunter, Mickey, Thornton
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2015, 07:28:20 PM »

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Rozier = Dennis Schroder / Cory Joseph
Hunter = Jeremy Lamb / Wayne Ellington
Mickey = Amir Johnson / Lou Amundson
Thornton = D-League / Euro chucker
This is by far the most reasonable post here.

Mickey has more skills than Johnson and Amundson.  Neither of these guys are shotblockers also


I'm sensing that you have an unrealistically inflated sense of how good these players are going to be.

If Mickey were half as talented / skilled as you seem to think, he'd have been a lottery talent.

sensing you have not watched one game of Mickey play and don't know what kind of player we got. He is a steal.   You will see once SL starts
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