You guys do realize the players we drafted are good right?

[Future Celtics Owner]

He is better at penetrating than Smart and Avery.  http://www.nbadraft.net/2015-nba-draft-combine-athleticism-test-analysis

So he has a great wingspan and standing reach for a guy his size. Check out the URL above. He also has a great shuttle time. The "reactionary" shuttle was introduced in 10' to help determine a players agility in regards to creating space and penetrating. A red flag is if the players test is just ok or bad and they have bad ball handling skills because the test does not include you dribbling the ball.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

The problem is that I don't see either of them unseating smart Bradley or isiah thomas.  So we just expended two first rounders on role players/backups.

We picked at 16. Since when is the 16 pick suppose to be a starter?

That's not the point. We coukd have had players who can fill a need, starter or off the bench with #16 but we picked adude who plays a position we are already having a logjam. What makes it worse it we picked a dude at #16 who's really similar to the dude we picked last year at #6.

So far, it looks like it's a waste of a pick.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

He is better at penetrating than Smart and Avery.  http://www.nbadraft.net/2015-nba-draft-combine-athleticism-test-analysis

So he has a great wingspan and standing reach for a guy his size. Check out the URL above. He also has a great shuttle time. The "reactionary" shuttle was introduced in 10' to help determine a players agility in regards to creating space and penetrating. A red flag is if the players test is just ok or bad and they have bad ball handling skills because the test does not include you dribbling the ball.

Alright then.

So assuming we don't trade someone, who gets his minutes cut so Rozier can play?

[BudweiserCeltic]

He is better at penetrating than Smart and Avery.  http://www.nbadraft.net/2015-nba-draft-combine-athleticism-test-analysis

So he has a great wingspan and standing reach for a guy his size. Check out the URL above. He also has a great shuttle time. The "reactionary" shuttle was introduced in 10' to help determine a players agility in regards to creating space and penetrating. A red flag is if the players test is just ok or bad and they have bad ball handling skills because the test does not include you dribbling the ball.

Alright then.

So assuming we don't trade someone, who gets his minutes cut so Rozier can play?

Turner and Pressey.

[Snakehead]

I actually really like what I see of Rozier.  He does look Bledsoe like.  His quickness and change of speed comes really easy and he has great body control.  Plays defense like a banshee.  I know we have PGs but I am pretty happy otherwise, given we picked at 16.

He is better at penetrating than Smart and Avery.  http://www.nbadraft.net/2015-nba-draft-combine-athleticism-test-analysis

So he has a great wingspan and standing reach for a guy his size. Check out the URL above. He also has a great shuttle time. The "reactionary" shuttle was introduced in 10' to help determine a players agility in regards to creating space and penetrating. A red flag is if the players test is just ok or bad and they have bad ball handling skills because the test does not include you dribbling the ball.

Alright then.

So assuming we don't trade someone, who gets his minutes cut so Rozier can play?

I would hope Turner stops being in there in a playmaker role.

More Smart in that role and Rozier getting minutes.

[Kuberski33]

I would caution that you're not drafting based on what a guy has accomplished to date.  You're drafting based on what you think he'll turn into.  You're also not drafting to assemble a team that will contend next season.  So I would suggest giving this time.

As far as a potential log jam goes...you got toyed with by Cleveland in a 4 game first round sweep.  Everyone on your roster is expendable.

[D.o.s.]

I would caution that you're not drafting based on what a guy has accomplished to date.  You're drafting based on what you think he'll turn into.  You're also not drafting to assemble a team that will contend next season.  So I would suggest giving this time.

As far as a potential log jam goes...you got toyed with by Cleveland in a 4 game first round sweep.  Everyone on your roster is expendable.

This is a good post.

[Robb]

Yeah, I understand that fans get super into the armchair GM thing-- I do myself-- but let's at least give Rozier a chance before labeling him a bust when he hasn't played a single NBA game.

Only issue here is that this exact same thing could be said about labeling him anything: good/bad, bust/bargain, starter/scrub, so why not argue for one or the other? It's the Internet

Almost every indication is that this was a reach and if you're reaching you might as well pick someone who suits a need. We went into the draft with power forward and small guards as the deepest and most valued  positions on our roster and we came out with more.  Without other shoes to fall, doesn't make sense.

[MBunge]

I would caution that you're not drafting based on what a guy has accomplished to date.  You're drafting based on what you think he'll turn into.  You're also not drafting to assemble a team that will contend next season.  So I would suggest giving this time.

As far as a potential log jam goes...you got toyed with by Cleveland in a 4 game first round sweep.  Everyone on your roster is expendable.

This is a good post.

I concur.

Mike

[PhoSita]

Eh.  Good?  That's a stretch.

Rozier might be, I don't know, a poor man's Dennis Schroder or Reggie Jackson.  Cool.  That's another minor "asset," though it doesn't really do anything for the team.  No clear path to playing time, which is necessary if a guy is going to develop in a meaningful way.

RJ Hunter might be Anthony Morrow or he might be Elliot Williams.  Guys like that are available in free agency every year.

Mickey is probably not an NBA rotation player.  Best case, he's a guy you throw in for a few minutes here and there to grab rebounds and block shots.  He doesn't help the team in terms of size inside or in terms of scoring ability.  No clear path to a larger role on the team.

MTWD (Marcus Thornton with Dreads), will be in the D-League or Russia next year, and probably for most of his career.  Cool.

[Rosco917]

I'm a little confused...we picked 3 guards in this draft. Two that are 6'2" or under. Beast or not...there was no need to add 3 guards.

Where are the minutes coming from???

[kozlodoev]

Inefficient scorer, not a playmaker (averaged 3 assists per 40 IIRC).

Not sure how this is true. He averaged 17 ppg on 14.5 shots last season. That's not amazing, but it's not bad or particularly inefficient. He got to the line 5 times a game, and there's other stuff to be liked such as the 5.5 rpg and the 2 steals per game. There's also a three-point shot that may develop.

Sure, we now have a major jam at the guard position, but ultimately that means you'll be able to move a piece and not bat an eye. Let's see how the rest of the offseason pans out.

[incoherent]

The problem is that I don't see either of them unseating smart Bradley or isiah thomas.  So we just expended two first rounders on role players/backups.

We picked at 16. Since when is the 16 pick suppose to be a starter?

That's not the point. We coukd have had players who can fill a need, starter or off the bench with #16 but we picked adude who plays a position we are already having a logjam. What makes it worse it we picked a dude at #16 who's really similar to the dude we picked last year at #6.

So far, it looks like it's a waste of a pick.

Not really. Smart can't penetrate or finish at the rim. Terry is much closer to IT then Smart or Bradley. Big difference in skills there.

[loco_91]

Yeah, I understand that fans get super into the armchair GM thing-- I do myself-- but let's at least give Rozier a chance before labeling him a bust when he hasn't played a single NBA game.

Only issue here is that this exact same thing could be said about labeling him anything: good/bad, bust/bargain, starter/scrub, so why not argue for one or the other? It's the Internet

Almost every indication is that this was a reach and if you're reaching you might as well pick someone who suits a need. We went into the draft with power forward and small guards as the deepest and most valued  positions on our roster and we came out with more.  Without other shoes to fall, doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make a lot of sense to me either, but I have enough confidence in Ainge that I'm sure he has a plan. These guys seem like solid prospects to me-- let's wait and see.

[Kuberski33]

Rozier shot 79 % from the line last year - good stat, make that a great stat for a guy who penetrates looking to score.