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Re: Our picks are sick
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2015, 01:09:23 AM »

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I'm sick

He did nothing to help this team

Picking a bunch of scrub guards makes no sense at all.

I don't see how Danny Ainge drafts 4 players and doesn't help the team.  We basically replaced Pressey, Babb and bass and are 12 deep easy...  Teams like the hawks just have a ton of depth and so do we now.   DA has been developing players for years.

We got nothing. Literally, nothing... and that didn't need to be the case. Mickey is the only one with a shot. I like Mudiay as the sleeper of this draft and think it'd behoove many of us to join a Nuggets blog asap. Yay Denver.

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Re: Our picks are sick
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2015, 01:10:07 AM »

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Drafting Rozier gives us a lot of options at the guard spot.

I love how Danny drafts.  He makes you think.  Something people don't like to do.

Re: Our picks are sick
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2015, 01:13:56 AM »

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This RJ Hunter guy. I just looked at his highlights. Kinda reminds me of a Ray Allen-esque type of player. His catch and shoot and long balls are really impressive lol.

As for Jordan Mickey...could be our Greg Stiemsma (that shot blocking capability) replacement, but a lot better!


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Re: Our picks are sick
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2015, 01:19:39 AM »

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I'm sick

He did nothing to help this team

Picking a bunch of scrub guards makes no sense at all.

I don't see how Danny Ainge drafts 4 players and doesn't help the team.  We basically replaced Pressey, Babb and bass and are 12 deep easy...  Teams like the hawks just have a ton of depth and so do we now.   DA has been developing players for years.

We got nothing. Literally, nothing... and that didn't need to be the case. Mickey is the only one with a shot. I like Mudiay as the sleeper of this draft and think it'd behoove many of us to join a Nuggets blog asap. Yay Denver.

Then go to the Nuggets blog.

If we are being snarky, please tell me why Rozier was a good pick.
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Re: Our picks are sick
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2015, 01:21:28 AM »

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I'm sick

He did nothing to help this team

Picking a bunch of scrub guards makes no sense at all.

I don't see how Danny Ainge drafts 4 players and doesn't help the team.  We basically replaced Pressey, Babb and bass and are 12 deep easy...  Teams like the hawks just have a ton of depth and so do we now.   DA has been developing players for years.

We got nothing. Literally, nothing... and that didn't need to be the case. Mickey is the only one with a shot. I like Mudiay as the sleeper of this draft and think it'd behoove many of us to join a Nuggets blog asap. Yay Denver.

Then go to the Nuggets blog.

If we are being snarky, please tell me why Rozier was a good pick.

Rozier is a high upside player and as good as Stanley johnson.  I gave several reasons though.  He is a scorer and can challenge our guards and gives us options.  Our team needs a center but we have a ton of guards and wing scorers who we can use.

Re: Our picks are sick
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2015, 01:26:50 AM »

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Smart is our one high pick guard.  Isiaiah, Bradley, Rozier and Hunter are all later picks. That's a lot of good depth to have.  We kept smart.  We loaded up on guards and wing players.  We are a loaded team.  Our bigs aren't bad either.  Mickey should really help.  Plus we didn't trade anyone.  We still ahve Sully, KO and Zeller.  Bass is gone but so what.  We have a team loaded with guards.  We have free agency to make moves for a big man and keep trying for that with all the picks we have.

We also have Crowder, Young and jerebko.  Gigi is probably gone.  So is bass.  Pressey and Babb too maybe.

C's are set up really nice where we have a really good team and we have trade assets and a ton of cap space.  23 million.

This is about as perfect situation the Celtics could be in without making those moves yet.

Re: Our picks are sick
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2015, 01:33:21 AM »

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Smart-All star caliber leader and guard potential
Isiaiah-special spark plug and leader. 
Bradley-guard who can defend and score off screens and shoot it with above average defense on a reasonable contract
Sully-good big man in better shape.  Upside in question but still have faith in Sully.
KO-Stretch 4 and great asset to have on a championship team
Zeller-steal of a big we got for nothing
jerebko-surprise player and end of bench guy
Crowder-solid phyical wing who is a vet and can score it
Young0young wing who can shoot. Needs to grow and improve defensively but Brad Stevens likes him a lot and feels he is special.  I like that.

That's 8 players plus these 4 rookies. These were excellent selections.   We are now 12 deep and can go into free agency targetting guys like Love, Pierce and Lopez.

Re: Our picks are sick
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2015, 01:34:15 AM »

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I'm sick

He did nothing to help this team

Picking a bunch of scrub guards makes no sense at all.

I know what players you like. I think Rozier is one of them. Plays tough. Strong and relentless. 6'7" wingspan that does not go to waste as he is an active defender.

I get the criticisms that it was a reach. Purely based on consensus value, Ainge theoretically could have moved back - though I think what's being taken for granted is the willingness of a team to fairly compensate Ainge for taking on the risk of not landing his player. I think it's fair to say that this might have been the player that blew Ainge away the other day in his workout. So when Ainge didn't get what he was looking for, he recognized that his compilation of picks allows him to waste a few on gut feeling. Sometimes it works, most times it doesn't. But it was his work of asset collection that makes this a justifiable gamble.

Also, Rozier seems to fit into the defensively versatile/offensively aggressive mold that has overtaken Stevens evaluation of players. Don't discount that factor.


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Re: Our picks are sick
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2015, 01:38:28 AM »

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I'm sick

He did nothing to help this team

Picking a bunch of scrub guards makes no sense at all.

I don't see how Danny Ainge drafts 4 players and doesn't help the team.  We basically replaced Pressey, Babb and bass and are 12 deep easy...  Teams like the hawks just have a ton of depth and so do we now.   DA has been developing players for years.

We got nothing. Literally, nothing... and that didn't need to be the case. Mickey is the only one with a shot. I like Mudiay as the sleeper of this draft and think it'd behoove many of us to join a Nuggets blog asap. Yay Denver.

Then go to the Nuggets blog.

If we are being snarky, please tell me why Rozier was a good pick.

Rozier is a high upside player and as good as Stanley johnson.  I gave several reasons though.  He is a scorer and can challenge our guards and gives us options.  Our team needs a center but we have a ton of guards and wing scorers who we can use.

Again, if there's no trade in place, we squandered a semi-decent pick for nothing.
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Re: Our picks are sick
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2015, 01:53:19 AM »

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Rozier is sick.  For nothing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ49LB7yBuk

Research him.  Watch the tape.  You can't argue with that.

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« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2015, 02:13:11 AM »

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Rozier is sick.  For nothing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ49LB7yBuk

Research him.  Watch the tape.  You can't argue with that.
exactly. i can see a little d-wade in him. can't wait for the moves that danny will make this offseason

Re: Our picks are sick
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2015, 02:21:17 AM »

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He is the steal of the draft.  I ahve a very good eye for talent and the celtics really love the pick.  The celtics are talented.  So is Rozier.

Re: Our picks are sick
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2015, 02:22:09 AM »

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Rozier is sick.  For nothing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ49LB7yBuk

Research him.  Watch the tape.  You can't argue with that.
exactly. i can see a little d-wade in him. can't wait for the moves that danny will make this offseason

D-wade, huh? AND Danny's moves? So initial question is.. will he be better than Winslow at 10? Second, what is the likelihood he becomes D-Wade? Third, what is the likelihood he plays 8 minutes/game this year? Fourth, what's the likelihood he makes it in the league as a 2, playing the 1, who can't shoot?

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Re: Our picks are sick
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2015, 02:39:53 AM »

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Rozier is sick.  For nothing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ49LB7yBuk

Research him.  Watch the tape.  You can't argue with that.
exactly. i can see a little d-wade in him. can't wait for the moves that danny will make this offseason

D-wade, huh? AND Danny's moves? So initial question is.. will he be better than Winslow at 10? Second, what is the likelihood he becomes D-Wade? Third, what is the likelihood he plays 8 minutes/game this year? Fourth, what's the likelihood he makes it in the league as a 2, playing the 1, who can't shoot?

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Reminds me more of Eric Bledsoe than D-Wade. This also means that AB might be traded.

RJ Hunter was a steal..! Excited to see Stevens draw up plays for him..

Re: Our picks are sick
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2015, 02:43:48 AM »

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Trading 4 for one is very rarely a good idea.   

Based on what?

Because nobody in a draft class has played a single NBA game, so every single player carries some element of risk. 

Pretty much every single draft you;'re going to have at least one or two guys in the top 10 who end up being absolute garbage, and you end up having at least one or two guys between 15-30 who end up being solid starters or at the very least good role players.

If you ONLY draft one guy in the top 10, then you are putting all of your hope in one person - if that guy busts, then your entire draft is a bust.

If you draft four guys, then every one of those guys offers at least SOME chance of becoming a solid rotation player (or better) in the NBA...so your chances of getting a useful player increase significantly.

For all we know right now, Okafor could turn out to be a taller Anthony Bennett.  Rozier could turn out to be the next Eric Bledsoe.  Hunter could turn out to be the next Richard Hamilton.  Mickey could turn out to be the next Elton Brand.  Thornton could become the next Leandro Barbosa.  Every one of those comparison players were great in their primes, and if you get a player as good as any of those out of a draft (even from the top 10) then you're laughing.

Now the chance of hitting on all four of those?  Highly unlikely.  The chance of hitting on one, or even two, of those?  Pretty decent. 

That's why unless you have a prospect that has franchise player potential (a Tim Duncan, Lebron James, Anthony Davis type) then you're often better taking multiple hits rather than one hit.

It's like buying a box of high end basketball cards at $500, versus a case of mid-range basketball cards for $500.   That high end box for $500 is going to be hit or miss - either you get a super valuable card, or you get a bunch of nothing.  The case however contains about 12 boxes, so in those 12 there is often going to be at least one box that gives you some card of value.

The $500 box might have the potential to give you a $1,500 card at best, but at worst the best card you get may only be worth $40.  The case of midrange boxes may only give the the potential for a $700 card at best, however because it's a case (and there's always at least one good hit per case) you know you'll get a card worth at least $150.