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Are you happy with the draft

Yes actually
16 (18.4%)
No Horrible
46 (52.9%)
Yes I'm just surprised how it unfolded.
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Re: Poll: Are you happy with the draft
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2015, 12:46:29 AM »

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More scrubs ...six foot ones ....dime a dozen scrub guards ....at least pick a bunch of 7 ft players ..maybe one will pan out .


I think Danny is senile or lost his freak n  .....mind

These picks are all totally stupid crap ....

Is he trying to get fired ......?

I think so.
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Re: Poll: Are you happy with the draft
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2015, 12:49:15 AM »

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Very unhappy with our draft.
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Re: Poll: Are you happy with the draft
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2015, 12:51:50 AM »

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If the Celtics had drafted Hunter at 16,  Mickey at 28, and Rozier at 33 I think that everybody would be a little happier.

I think that it was a nice draft so far.

I agree.  My first choice was trading up but if we couldn't do that I wanted either Anderson or Hunter at 16. 

 Drafting Mickey at 28 would have been fine with me and then drafting Rosier at 33 would've been  more than just okay .


Re: Poll: Are you happy with the draft
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2015, 01:02:56 AM »

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Danny did an excellent job.  The Celtics got far last season without many really good athletes.  Just blue collar , hard working style kind of guys.  System is in place now.

This draft he added scorers (Rozier, Hunter and even Thornton) . He added rim protection and a guy you could play as a center when you play small ball in Jordan Mickey.     Many of these guys will likely not make much of an impact in the beginning but in spurts I think will be able to (minus Thornton who is a draft and stash guy (d league or europe)).   In the 2nd half getting more comfortable , see their role increase. 

I think there is a decent chance Jerebko is resigned.  Crowder also.  Danny will try to lure Aldridge in, but worse case all we can do is keep trucking.  I'm expecting better years from Sully, KO and Smart next season. More of the same from Zeller , Turner, AB

Do you mean this? I love your posts, but Rozier at 16? On top of that, that we already have multiple taller/longer Roziers? What is his upside? Unless there is a trade in place, that was a pretty significant mistake.

I get we got your boy Mickey, and imo that could very well end up being our best pick. But, man... disappointing me couldn't slide up, and more disappointing with 16. If you see something in Rozier, it was a bad pick (unless we know Smart is out); if you don't see anything in Rozier, it's a bad pick.

Edit: If Smart is out, I'm totally with it. I think he can be as good as Smart, and prior to the thread I suggested trading Smart to move up for WSC and replace him with someone like Grant (who could be a steal in this draft). But if we have nothing in place, I can't understand the perspective that we did well with our best pick.

you are seeing a guy like Rozier just as another guard. But Danny imo sees him as an "addition" that is good for the team.   He is not caring much that he got another guard vs what he can bring to the table.  The Celts had a tough time creating scoring chances at times and it was apparent vs the Cavs in the playoffs.    The game plan was to hound on IT , while laying off the rest of the team and it worked.   Now add another scorer and we become more difficult to guard.

Rozier is not a finished product by any means. But right now ,  he can get you 7-10 points off the bench  and provide lockdown defense.  His wingspan and good strength from what I read,  helps him able to guard pgs and bigger sgs.  Marcus Smart and AB can't be playing 110 percent D without burning out at some pt. It's just nice , now you got another AB kind of guy to plug in .

To be honest I was shocked by the Rozier pick BUT like I have said on another thread, what if Hunter went 16, rozier 28 , mickey 33. Would you be less upset? most ppl here I think would be.

Re: Poll: Are you happy with the draft
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2015, 01:04:33 AM »

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Well I just got back home from the draft. We passed on Portis. That is all I can say. After that pick, I was scrolling bleacher report hoping for a trade. It never happened.

Re: Poll: Are you happy with the draft
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2015, 01:06:39 AM »

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Happy with the picks.

Very sad to see Winslow go to Miami at 10.

The picks are great if you take the long view.  I'll bet Rozier will have excellent value by the end of next year or his second year.  It's easy for me to believe he'll outpace Dekker and Portis (both whom I liked) over time. Hunter over the longer term, great asset comparable to Booker.  Mickey I'm a fan because he seems like a guy who will plug away, Powe-like but with different strengths and weaknesses, a fan favorite I'm betting. 

Most fans I think overvalue offense and undervalue defense.  As someone else mentioned, a guy like Rozier combined with Smart at the 2 will make it hellish on the star offensive guards of the league. 

I get that some are more into offense, but it's a two way game.  Look at Charlotte's win loss record with and without Kidd Gilchrist.

And I don't get people throwing the word logjam around in the first month of the offseason, as if Danny and Brad are that dumb.  It makes bloggers look kind of silly.  Okay we are silly.  But one might instead imagine an eventual trade that sends out, say, Avery Bradley and player or picks and brings back a big or a starting SF.



Re: Poll: Are you happy with the draft
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2015, 01:07:52 AM »

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I'm not unhappy.

I prefer going after the BPA rather than drafting based on positional need.  (It's likely I have explicitly posted in the past month or two that the Celtics should take BPA even if he is a point guard.)  I prefer drafting defense-first guys with the tools and mental capacity to become better on offense than drafting offense-first players and hoping they start caring about defense.  I prefer talented and hard-working but undersized players to more athletic players with prototypical size whose mental makeup screams bust to people who pay attention to such things.

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Re: Poll: Are you happy with the draft
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2015, 04:41:27 AM »

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Justice Winslow is a 2 way player with upside.  Same with Myles turner.  We just failed to move up.  I really want to know what was the actual price asked for pick #9!

Re: Poll: Are you happy with the draft
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2015, 08:22:27 AM »

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What I least wanted was to stand still with the picks because I didn't like where Boston was picking given the composition of this draft. So not happy.

It looks like Ainge got some interesting guys with his picks. So at least the bad case scenario was reasonably well done. That is something. This Rozier guy sounds pretty interesting. He wasn't even on my radar as a potential pick prior to the draft. I know very little about him. But it sounds like there might be something there.

Not happy but not horrible either.

Re: Poll: Are you happy with the draft
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2015, 08:33:01 AM »

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More scrubs ...six foot ones ....dime a dozen scrub guards ....at least pick a bunch of 7 ft players ..maybe one will pan out .


I think Danny is senile or lost his freak n  .....mind

These picks are all totally stupid crap ....

Is he trying to get fired ......?

I think so.
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And JuJuan Johnson. That means we're due.

Re: Poll: Are you happy with the draft
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2015, 08:37:09 AM »

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More scrubs ...six foot ones ....dime a dozen scrub guards ....at least pick a bunch of 7 ft players ..maybe one will pan out .


I think Danny is senile or lost his freak n  .....mind

These picks are all totally stupid crap ....

Is he trying to get fired ......?

I think so.
iverson colton says hello from europe and fab melo sends his regards as well.  ;D
And JuJuan Johnson. That means we're due.
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Don't forget Semih Erden (who admittedly showed a little promise before getting injured, traded, and homesick.  But still washed out of the league quickly.)
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Re: Poll: Are you happy with the draft
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2015, 08:41:56 AM »

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I'm not unhappy.

I prefer going after the BPA rather than drafting based on positional need.  (It's likely I have explicitly posted in the past month or two that the Celtics should take BPA even if he is a point guard.)  I prefer drafting defense-first guys with the tools and mental capacity to become better on offense than drafting offense-first players and hoping they start caring about defense.  I prefer talented and hard-working but undersized players to more athletic players with prototypical size whose mental makeup screams bust to people who pay attention to such things.
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Re: Poll: Are you happy with the draft
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2015, 08:55:22 AM »

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So last year we finished the season 24-12 and made the playoffs.  How many draftees really could have been a significant improvement on any of our rotation players next year?  Okafor probably.  Maybe Porzingis, but he still supposedly needs a year or two.  WCS if he doesn't need surgery.  Maybe Hezonja, and possibly Winslow or Johnson, but they both fell during the draft.  It's not like some grand opportunity to make the team an instant contender was lost last night.  Would it have been nice to get a better project than the four we've got?  Sure.  But we had lots of roster soots last year devoted to development and bench warming despite our competitiveness down the stretch (Pressey, Babb, Young, Datome, Wallace).  Three of those guys will be gone, so three of our draftees can slide into those spots.  Maybe all four will get a development roster spot and Young will show what a year of development can do.  A common complaint around here is that we missed so-and-so late 1st rounder/2nd rounder -- the easiest way you hit on those is to have lots of picks and the available roster spots to use on them.  We have both this year.  If you're going to be mad when all four picks don't pan out -- just get ready to be mad.  But Danny has four bullets in the gun to get a special player out of this draft, and he drafted four guys with some very interesting skill sets.

You build through the draft -- rarely do you compete overnight through the draft.  You do that in free agency/trades.

Re: Poll: Are you happy with the draft
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2015, 10:16:09 AM »

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I am so bummed out about the draft. I mean we already have good guards. Why do we need 3 more? What a waste. Another year of being in the middle of the Eastern Conference and if Brad Stevens can duplicate his great coaching it will get us to the 1st rnd where Lebron and any 4 players will beat us 4-0 again. I have had faith and patience in Danny up until this draft and now I'm losing it. There is no light at the end of the tunnel. There is nothing to look forward to. LA & NY & SA will get all the good free agents and all of a sudden LA & NY will be  relevant again whereas we will be treading water as we have been since 2008. This sucks.

Re: Poll: Are you happy with the draft
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2015, 10:21:14 AM »

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Totally waste of effort and time.

Danny is collecting bad talent......which is ok.......if he dumps all the nothing role players and lets the scrubs  take the team back into the lottery.

These players are ok college level......but junk in the NBA level ......this is what we are supposed to pay big bucks for tickets to watch ?   Ha ha. Right.

Danny is flushing the Celtics down the toilet