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Re: Speculation: Ainge wants both Cousins and Love
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2015, 06:08:46 PM »

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Hard to give two high usage big men the touches they want and need to fully utilize their talents.

I'd trust Brad Stevens to figure it out.

Could turn into something like Grizzlies East only with better floor spacing.

Would be really fascinating to see them try to make that work, in any case.
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Re: Speculation: Ainge wants both Cousins and Love
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2015, 06:09:20 PM »

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https://twitter.com/xOrtiz4x/status/613773421470699520

"Boston Celtics offering Marcus Smart/Jared Sullinger/Gerald Wallace/#16/#28/multiple future 1st round picks for DeMarcus Cousins."

this is interesting...wonder what Kings think of this...
Let’s go Celtics!!

Re: Speculation: Ainge wants both Cousins and Love
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2015, 06:09:23 PM »

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Hard to give two high usage big men the touches they want and need to fully utilize their talents.

Two high usage players in a roster is hardly a problem. It's when it's 3+ that it might become an issue. But two players? Na'.

It's when the 2 high usage guys are both bigs. That is more difficult.

Than say an inside-outside combo that lends itself more naturally to a two man game.

Edit: I don't think it is a factor in convincing both players to team up. I do think it's likely to be a problem in getting full value out of both guys once they are here though. Cousins had pretty much the entire offense run through him in Sacramento. Kevin Love had similar situation in Minnesota. It'll be hard to keep both guys involved at that often when playing together. Often it'll be one guy with the other guy off the ball.

I understand the concept of this not working, but couldn't it also work beautifully? While both players need the ball in their hands to dominate, I could see Brad Stevens developing a system where they both could truly be effective.

Would they be able to run some variation of Cousins in the low post and love in the high post? Also imagine them both running the PnR with Thomas. They would essentially have 3 offensive creators on the floor at one time.
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Re: Speculation: Ainge wants both Cousins and Love
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2015, 06:12:16 PM »

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Dude obviously Ainge wants Cousins and Love.   Is there anyone who doesn't think Ainge wants Cousins + Love?   

Good luck to him.   Love is more likely than Cousins. 

Re: Speculation: Ainge wants both Cousins and Love
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2015, 06:13:52 PM »

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Re: Speculation: Ainge wants both Cousins and Love
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2015, 06:14:09 PM »

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Dude obviously Ainge wants Cousins and Love.   Is there anyone who doesn't think Ainge wants Cousins + Love?   

Good luck to him.   Love is more likely than Cousins.
good luck to all of us
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Re: Speculation: Ainge wants both Cousins and Love
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2015, 06:15:02 PM »

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https://twitter.com/xOrtiz4x/status/613773421470699520

"Boston Celtics offering Marcus Smart/Jared Sullinger/Gerald Wallace/#16/#28/multiple future 1st round picks for DeMarcus Cousins."

this is interesting...wonder what Kings think of this...
If you're boston you HAVE to offer that.   We're on the verge of a cap space boom.  If you did this trade, you'd have enough cap room to sign at least one more max contract player to play with Cousins (Love?  Aldridge?) and if we succeed in dumping Bradley we'd have enough cap space to bring in TWO max contract guys to put next to Cousins.

Then next year the cap 20 mil and you can sign Max Contract #4.... DUrant?
Then the year after that the cap jumps 20 mil more and you can sign max Contract #5.

All those middling assets make a nice hill of beans... but I'd take one gold goose over all of em. 

Re: Speculation: Ainge wants both Cousins and Love
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2015, 06:16:21 PM »

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https://twitter.com/xOrtiz4x/status/613773421470699520

"Boston Celtics offering Marcus Smart/Jared Sullinger/Gerald Wallace/#16/#28/multiple future 1st round picks for DeMarcus Cousins."

This would be ideal, leave us enough cap to sign LMA, Wesley and Pierce. 

Thomas / Turner
Mathews / Young
Pierce / Crowder
LMA / Jerebko
DMC / Zeller

Now that'd be a juggernaut.

Re: Speculation: Ainge wants both Cousins and Love
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2015, 06:17:09 PM »

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https://twitter.com/xOrtiz4x/status/613773421470699520

"Boston Celtics offering Marcus Smart/Jared Sullinger/Gerald Wallace/#16/#28/multiple future 1st round picks for DeMarcus Cousins."

this is interesting...wonder what Kings think of this...
If you're boston you HAVE to offer that.   We're on the verge of a cap space boom.  If you did this trade, you'd have enough cap room to sign at least one more max contract player to play with Cousins (Love?  Aldridge?) and if we succeed in dumping Bradley we'd have enough cap space to bring in TWO max contract guys to put next to Cousins.

Then next year the cap 20 mil and you can sign Max Contract #4.... DUrant?
Then the year after that the cap jumps 20 mil more and you can sign max Contract #5.

All those middling assets make a nice hill of beans... but I'd take one gold goose over all of em.

i agree.  i think it's an offer SAC has to consider bc it's fairly well-rounded. especially if it's 1-2 future 1st rounders along w/ 16 + 28 this year...Smart nice young piece, Sully going into his 4th year, Wallace expiring...
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Re: Speculation: Ainge wants both Cousins and Love
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2015, 06:17:54 PM »

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Dude obviously Ainge wants Cousins and Love.   Is there anyone who doesn't think Ainge wants Cousins + Love?   

Good luck to him.   Love is more likely than Cousins.

Honestly, I think Ainge will pursue both guys, but ultimately I think the utility of having those names out there is to keep fans excited and interested.  The team, I expect, views those as pie-in-the-sky options, with names like Greg Monroe and Brook Lopez more realistic targets, and guys like Robin Lopez and Bismack Biyombo as fall-backs.

Having "The Summer of Love 2.0: Boogie Fever" going on in the Twitterverse provides cover for the very strong possibility that Ainge ends up selling on most of this "Surprise Playoff Team" roster and doubles down on the slow rebuild via youth.
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Re: Speculation: Ainge wants both Cousins and Love
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2015, 06:18:35 PM »

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I'll just leave this here and see you guys tomorrow at the draft.

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Hopefully it won't be sparklers again this year  :P

Re: Speculation: Ainge wants both Cousins and Love
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2015, 06:22:55 PM »

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https://twitter.com/xOrtiz4x/status/613773421470699520

"Boston Celtics offering Marcus Smart/Jared Sullinger/Gerald Wallace/#16/#28/multiple future 1st round picks for DeMarcus Cousins."

This would be ideal, leave us enough cap to sign LMA, Wesley and Pierce. 

Thomas / Turner
Mathews / Young
Pierce / Crowder
LMA / Jerebko
DMC / Zeller

Now that'd be a juggernaut.

I can live with that, I must admit  ;D

Re: Speculation: Ainge wants both Cousins and Love
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2015, 06:23:10 PM »

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I think it's pretty obvious at this point: we're going to sign Love, trade for Cousins, then sign Durant next offseason... In all seriousness, a Love-Cousins tandem would be ridiculous, but I'll be beyond happy with just one of them. Add the Truth to that equation and I've achieved nirvana.
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Re: Speculation: Ainge wants both Cousins and Love
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2015, 06:24:53 PM »

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Dude obviously Ainge wants Cousins and Love.   Is there anyone who doesn't think Ainge wants Cousins + Love?   

Good luck to him.   Love is more likely than Cousins.

Honestly, I think Ainge will pursue both guys, but ultimately I think the utility of having those names out there is to keep fans excited and interested.  The team, I expect, views those as pie-in-the-sky options, with names like Greg Monroe and Brook Lopez more realistic targets, and guys like Robin Lopez and Bismack Biyombo as fall-backs.

Having "The Summer of Love 2.0: Boogie Fever" going on in the Twitterverse provides cover for the very strong possibility that Ainge ends up selling on most of this "Surprise Playoff Team" roster and doubles down on the slow rebuild via youth.

While I agree it's unlikely they'll get them. I legitimately believe Anige will go after them because he believes he can them.

Re: Speculation: Ainge wants both Cousins and Love
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2015, 06:30:41 PM »

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https://twitter.com/xOrtiz4x/status/613773421470699520

"Boston Celtics offering Marcus Smart/Jared Sullinger/Gerald Wallace/#16/#28/multiple future 1st round picks for DeMarcus Cousins."

this is interesting...wonder what Kings think of this...
If you're boston you HAVE to offer that.   We're on the verge of a cap space boom.  If you did this trade, you'd have enough cap room to sign at least one more max contract player to play with Cousins (Love?  Aldridge?) and if we succeed in dumping Bradley we'd have enough cap space to bring in TWO max contract guys to put next to Cousins.

Then next year the cap 20 mil and you can sign Max Contract #4.... DUrant?
Then the year after that the cap jumps 20 mil more and you can sign max Contract #5.

All those middling assets make a nice hill of beans... but I'd take one gold goose over all of em.

i agree.  i think it's an offer SAC has to consider bc it's fairly well-rounded. especially if it's 1-2 future 1st rounders along w/ 16 + 28 this year...Smart nice young piece, Sully going into his 4th year, Wallace expiring...
LOL we overrate our guys bet their laughing at this offer
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