I don't want Cousins!!!

[fairweatherfan]

Honestly, I don't care who it is, if the Celtics can find a way to acquire a legitimate star player (i.e. annual All-Star candidate) under 30, I'm all for it.

Having a star is always better than sitting here in no-man's land pinning hopes on role players and middle of the road picks.

Get the talent, then worry about managing personalities and building a supporting cast, etc.  If we really believe the Celts are this amazing historic franchise that's so well run, they'll figure it out.

Yeah and if nothing else we could always trade him again after a year or two for something useful.  Even if Cousins isn't the answer to building a contending roster, he represents a tremendous consolidation of assets, which is the most important thing for this stage of the rebuild.

[PaulAllen]

Knowing Ainge's track record I dont think he would bring in a player who would disrupt Steven's chemistry..

[D.o.s.]

Knowing Ainge's track record I dont think he would bring in a player who would disrupt Steven's chemistry..

[JBcat]

For what's worth I think the Kings played decent when Cousins was healthy last year.  Cousins improved defensively and I think he cut down on his turnovers while putting up up all NBA numbers.  He may not be perfect but I see fire he wants to win.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Knowing Ainge's track record I dont think he would bring in a player who would disrupt Steven's chemistry..

No Marbury?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eUtSV519vU

[GC003332]

Knowing Ainge's track record I dont think he would bring in a player who would disrupt Steven's chemistry..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nVWDoI1QPvE

[JHTruth]

Honestly, I don't care who it is, if the Celtics can find a way to acquire a legitimate star player (i.e. annual All-Star candidate) under 30, I'm all for it.

Having a star is always better than sitting here in no-man's land pinning hopes on role players and middle of the road picks.

Get the talent, then worry about managing personalities and building a supporting cast, etc.  If we really believe the Celts are this amazing historic franchise that's so well run, they'll figure it out.

Cousins is probably the highest risk/reward player in the league but this team needs to do it. A player of that talent (24-13 at 24) is extremely hard to find. And it's not like we haven't had hard to manage players before..

[BudweiserCeltic]

Honestly, I don't care who it is, if the Celtics can find a way to acquire a legitimate star player (i.e. annual All-Star candidate) under 30, I'm all for it.

Having a star is always better than sitting here in no-man's land pinning hopes on role players and middle of the road picks.

Get the talent, then worry about managing personalities and building a supporting cast, etc.  If we really believe the Celts are this amazing historic franchise that's so well run, they'll figure it out.

Cousins is probably the highest risk/reward player in the league but this team needs to do it. A player of that talent (24-13 at 24) is extremely hard to find. And it's not like we haven't had hard to manage players before..

Very little risk with Cousins. He's locked into a very good contract, and actually has a crapload of trade value. And you know, he can really really play, to say nothing of having this caliber of a player with a crapload of cap space coming our way.

I mean, there's very little downside to this EVEN if Cousins doesn't workout all that well for us.

[JoeyAinge]

In all honesty a lineup of

Smart
Bradley
Crowder
Kelly
Cousins

Is a contender in the east. Cousins would dominate the east, we'd have arguably the best defensive front court and we would spread the court great for Cousins to go at it downlow. Throw in Young and Isiah off the bench we'd have a solid team just by adding cousins with Stevens coaching.

Cousins would also attract Aldridge.
Who would attract Wes Mathews.

Smart
Wes Mathews
Crowder? Young?
Aldridge
Cousins

 

[PhoSita]

Cousins is probably the highest risk/reward player in the league

Far from it.

He's a huge bruiser center who is coming off two straight 20+ pt 10+ reb seasons (in an era where very few players hit those marks), has improved a lot defensively in recent years, and the biggest complaint you can make about him is that he's frustrated with his joke of a franchise losing so many games and changing up the coach so often. 

Oh, and his field goal percentage is kind of low for a center, but he also takes a lot of shots with very little spacing or passing ability on the roster around him.


The only significant downside to building around Cousins is that you have to accommodate a guy who wants to take 15-20 shots down low every night, which runs against the current trend of playing an up-tempo, drive-and-kick, perimeter-oriented style.  But by the same token, he presents huge matchup problems for basically every opponent in the league.

[D.o.s.]

No Marbury?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eUtSV519vU

  Shamed forever.

[Tr1boy]

Honestly, I don't care who it is, if the Celtics can find a way to acquire a legitimate star player (i.e. annual All-Star candidate) under 30, I'm all for it.

Having a star is always better than sitting here in no-man's land pinning hopes on role players and middle of the road picks.

Get the talent, then worry about managing personalities and building a supporting cast, etc.  If we really believe the Celts are this amazing historic franchise that's so well run, they'll figure it out.

Cousins is probably the highest risk/reward player in the league but this team needs to do it. A player of that talent (24-13 at 24) is extremely hard to find. And it's not like we haven't had hard to manage players before..

Very little risk with Cousins. He's locked into a very good contract, and actually has a crapload of trade value. And you know, he can really really play, to say nothing of having this caliber of a player with a crapload of cap space coming our way.

I mean, there's very little downside to this EVEN if Cousins doesn't workout all that well for us.

He has not won 35 games yet in a season. He does not know how to win. Only pad his stats. 

How many coaches has he had?? We already got rid of RR to give CBS a break.

[fairweatherfan]

Honestly, I don't care who it is, if the Celtics can find a way to acquire a legitimate star player (i.e. annual All-Star candidate) under 30, I'm all for it.

Having a star is always better than sitting here in no-man's land pinning hopes on role players and middle of the road picks.

Get the talent, then worry about managing personalities and building a supporting cast, etc.  If we really believe the Celts are this amazing historic franchise that's so well run, they'll figure it out.

Cousins is probably the highest risk/reward player in the league but this team needs to do it. A player of that talent (24-13 at 24) is extremely hard to find. And it's not like we haven't had hard to manage players before..

Very little risk with Cousins. He's locked into a very good contract, and actually has a crapload of trade value. And you know, he can really really play, to say nothing of having this caliber of a player with a crapload of cap space coming our way.

I mean, there's very little downside to this EVEN if Cousins doesn't workout all that well for us.

He has not won 35 games yet in a season. He does not know how to win. Only pad his stats. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009-10_Kentucky_Wildcats_men's_basketball_team

35-3 baby!

[Scintan]

FYI, this thread was started by a Knicks fan. I know this because no Celtics fan would not want Cousins.

I have been a Celtic fan since 1956. And that history is a big part of why I want nothing to do with this guy. He will never win a title.

How many titles do you figure Olynyk to be good for?

I'd trade Olynyk for Cousins, but you know that isn't the price.

Nor was a 1:1 trade what I was suggesting.  Cousins brings the Celtics a lot closer to a title than does Olynyk.  That's the point.

No one player wins you a title.  Even Bird, Magic and Jordan needed help.

[JHTruth]

Cousins is probably the highest risk/reward player in the league

Far from it.

He's a huge bruiser center who is coming off two straight 20+ pt 10+ reb seasons (in an era where very few players hit those marks), has improved a lot defensively in recent years, and the biggest complaint you can make about him is that he's frustrated with his joke of a franchise losing so many games and changing up the coach so often. 

Oh, and his field goal percentage is kind of low for a center, but he also takes a lot of shots with very little spacing or passing ability on the roster around him.


The only significant downside to building around Cousins is that you have to accommodate a guy who wants to take 15-20 shots down low every night, which runs against the current trend of playing an up-tempo, drive-and-kick, perimeter-oriented style.  But by the same token, he presents huge matchup problems for basically every opponent in the league.

But why does Sac change coaches over so much. Is it because of Cousins? There's a lot of risk with this guy. Team culture is extremely important. We don't have a KG or PP to keep his butt in line. Who is going to call out DMC on our team? Olynyk?