Berger: C's can offer the most for Cousins

[D.o.s.]

Is there anyone in the Cs FO that has a daughter as hot as Anjali Ranadive? We've got a fighting shot if so.

Oh hey joel embiid didn't see you there.

[TheFlex]

Is there anyone in the Cs FO that has a daughter as hot as Anjali Ranadive? We've got a fighting shot if so.

Oh hey joel embiid didn't see you there.

[Rosco917]

California Dreamin by the Mama's and the Papa's, is what I think of when I hear all this very premature talk of Marcus Cousins.

Why would George Karl begin his tenure as coach of the Kings without trying to include what they consider their best player in the building plan? No way does he get traded, unless by mid season, or even next season they are out totally out of the picture.

And if the Kings can't win with him on that team, what makes you think he will lead us anywhere. Keep in mind if the C's go "all in" for what many feel is an immature, complaining, cry baby, that knowone can get through to, it would hinder us for years and years to come.

I want to win as badly as anyone, but this guy has a history of being a very talented problem child.

[Eddie20]

Greg Dickerson
@gdickerson_csn
I've been told that even w continuous no's from sactown, Danny will continue to push them for a @DeMarcus Cousins deal Through draft day

[D.o.s.]

And if the Kings can't win with him on that team, what makes you think he will lead us anywhere. Keep in mind if the C's go "all in" for what many feel is an immature, complaining, cry baby, that knowone can get through to, it would hinder us for years and years to come.

I want to win as badly as anyone, but this guy has a history of being a very talented problem child.

Someone else already brought this up, but:

"It's definitely another year gone by for me," Pierce said. "It's another year we don't get into the postseason. It's another year I don't get recognized for the things I do. I'm the classic case of a great player on a bad team, and it stinks."

"I want to be recognized for what I've accomplished," Pierce said. "That may sound selfish, but I've sacrificed a lot. I want to win. That's all I want. Most great players are selfish.

"We're not on a winning team, and as long as that's true, I don't get recognized as one of the top players in the league. We're never on TV. I wasn't part of the All-Star Game [this season]. We just don't get the benefit of so many other things that winning teams get."

"I had so much time to sit there and think about my future," he said. "I'm looking at us losing and I'm saying, 'Man, what do we really have here? Is there hope? Where do we go from here?' "

"Boston has never been a free agent spot, you know that," Pierce said. "Guys want to go somewhere warm. That's not going to be the best option for us. The things we need to get done need to happen through the trade and the draft. The only other way is to offer a free agent something they can't possibly refuse. You've got to come up with an offer sheet that's just so much more money they can't turn it down, and that's not likely to happen."

http://www.boston.com/sports/articles/2007/03/30/for_pierce_scars_linger_in_painful_celtics_season/?page=full

Greg Dickerson
@gdickerson_csn
I've been told that even w continuous no's from sactown, Danny will continue to push them for a @DeMarcus Cousins deal Through draft day

Sounds credible. LOOOOOOOOOOOOL!

Looks like just another rumor to to push someone's agenda.

[Rondo9]

Greg Dickerson
@gdickerson_csn
I've been told that even w continuous no's from sactown, Danny will continue to push them for a @DeMarcus Cousins deal Through draft day

Good to see the Celtics are being very aggressive. I wonder if he still calls them even while they're sleeping?

[Al91]

Each year writers are selling readers on the "war chest" of assets the Cs have but how is this year any different from this time last year when what we had amounted to a "pu pu platter" in the Kevin Love sweepstakes?

Regardless of how great our package may be I just don't think that's an indication of where Cousins will go, if anywhere.

[D Dub]

Greg Dickerson
@gdickerson_csn
I've been told that even w continuous no's from sactown, Danny will continue to push them for a @DeMarcus Cousins deal Through draft day

Looks like Vlade is trying to play it like Flip did last year.  Hold out. 

The problem is, of course, that Sacto has zero interest in bottoming out with rookies next year...

[Rondo9]

Greg Dickerson
@gdickerson_csn
I've been told that even w continuous no's from sactown, Danny will continue to push them for a @DeMarcus Cousins deal Through draft day

Looks like Vlade is trying to play it like Flip did last year.  Hold out. 

The problem is, of course, that Sacto has zero interest in bottoming out with rookies next year...

So the Lakers are out huh? 

[TheFlex]

Greg Dickerson
@gdickerson_csn
I've been told that even w continuous no's from sactown, Danny will continue to push them for a @DeMarcus Cousins deal Through draft day

Looks like Vlade is trying to play it like Flip did last year.  Hold out. 

The problem is, of course, that Sacto has zero interest in bottoming out with rookies next year...

Flip reprortedly had no interest in rookies either.

[crimson_stallion]

If from what i hear is true and the Lakers are really willing to give up Randle and the number 2 pick then saying the Celtics have the most to offer is absurd.

I also wouldnt do any deal for Cousins involving Marcus Smart. The most i would hope Danny would do is something like Sullinger + Wallace + Young + 16th + Zeller + Brooklyns 2016 1st, and that still doesnt touch the Lakers offer.

Smart is good, but he'll never be as good as Cousins - if adding him to the deal is enough to make it happen, then I (and Danny) will do so without hesitation.

Also the only valuable asset for the Lakers is #2, so the importance of that depends on how much the Kings value draft picks - which (according to reports) is not all that much. 

If the reports are anything to go off, then I would assume that the player(s) would have to be the primary component in any deal, and any draft picks would just be added as a sweetener.

Now from what I see, Randle has significantly less value than Smart because:
1) He is significantly undersized
2) He's a one-dimensional player
3) He has a significant medical history and is coming off a season ending injury
4) He was taken one spot lower in the draft (not that important, but just saying!)

So if George Karl's aim is to get proven players who can help him 'win now', then neither the #2 Pick nor Randle, is of much value - since neither has managed more than one game of NBA experience and neither has proven anything.

On the other hand, the Boston Celtics just made the playoffs behind the play of guys like Marcus Smart, Jared Sullinger, Avery Bradley, Evan Turner and Kelly Olynyk.  Those guys might not be stars, but they have all proven (over at least one full season) that they have NBA ready skills and can help a team win. 

If the reports are true about what George Karl wants, then all of those guys have greater value to him than a prospect who's never played, and a draft pick.

[tarheelsxxiii]

If from what i hear is true and the Lakers are really willing to give up Randle and the number 2 pick then saying the Celtics have the most to offer is absurd.

I also wouldnt do any deal for Cousins involving Marcus Smart. The most i would hope Danny would do is something like Sullinger + Wallace + Young + 16th + Zeller + Brooklyns 2016 1st, and that still doesnt touch the Lakers offer.

Smart is good, but he'll never be as good as Cousins - if adding him to the deal is enough to make it happen, then I (and Danny) will do so without hesitation.

Also the only valuable asset for the Lakers is #2, so the importance of that depends on how much the Kings value draft picks - which (according to reports) is not all that much. 

If the reports are anything to go off, then I would assume that the player(s) would have to be the primary component in any deal, and any draft picks would just be added as a sweetener.

Now from what I see, Randle has significantly less value than Smart because:
1) He is significantly undersized
2) He's a one-dimensional player
3) He has a significant medical history and is coming off a season ending injury
4) He was taken one spot lower in the draft (not that important, but just saying!)

So if George Karl's aim is to get proven players who can help him 'win now', then neither the #2 Pick nor Randle, is of much value - since neither has managed more than one game of NBA experience and neither has proven anything.

On the other hand, the Boston Celtics just made the playoffs behind the play of guys like Marcus Smart, Jared Sullinger, Avery Bradley, Evan Turner and Kelly Olynyk.  Those guys might not be stars, but they have all proven (over at least one full season) that they have NBA ready skills and can help a team win. 

If the reports are true about what George Karl wants, then all of those guys have greater value to him than a prospect who's never played, and a draft pick.

Unless Okafor enters the league as a very polished big that immediately contributes significant minutes, points, rebounds, and smart play. I'd bet that will be the case.

[crimson_stallion]

And if the Kings can't win with him on that team, what makes you think he will lead us anywhere. Keep in mind if the C's go "all in" for what many feel is an immature, complaining, cry baby, that knowone can get through to, it would hinder us for years and years to come.

The Kings can't win because:

1) They are top 3 in the sweepstakes for "worst management in the NBA"
2) They chance coaches more frequently than some people change underwear
3) They have no clue how to assemble a 'team' - they just add bits and pieces that don't fit

Cousins has as much positive impact on his team's success as any player in the league, he's just in a horrible situation.  Without him they'd be much, much, much worse.

Also Cousins actually doesn't come across to me as a 'cry baby' at all.  He's just a guy who's sick of putting in 110% effort every night and leaving everything on the court, while everybody else in the organisation treats it like it's a high school team.

He's just a very passionate guy who plays with a ton of emotion, and wears his heart on his sleeve.  How is that any different to somebody like Kevin Garnett, who will probably go down as one of the most loved Celtics of all time?

From all I've seen so far, Cousins seems like a very genuine and up front guy who is not afraid to tell it how it is.  He comes across to me as a guy who will fight for those who earn his respect, but turn his back on those who try to back-stab him.  This is clearly apparent based on the fact that he showed nothing but respect and support for his former coach even after said coach was out of the organisation...yet very quick to speak out against the 'snake in the grass' that is George Karl.  Cousins is real human, with real heart and real emotions and I can respect that about him.

That's a big contrast to a guy like Dwight Howard, who tells everybody how much he loves the coach...5 minutes after the media found out he asked to have said coach fired.  Now THAT is the type of fake, backstabbing headcase that really causes problems in an organisation. 

Everything I've seen from Cousins indicates to me that if he finds himself in an organisation that shows him love and respect, then he will give everything he has to that organisation.

[CM0]

And if the Kings can't win with him on that team, what makes you think he will lead us anywhere. Keep in mind if the C's go "all in" for what many feel is an immature, complaining, cry baby, that knowone can get through to, it would hinder us for years and years to come.

The Kings can't win because:

1) They are top 3 in the sweepstakes for "worst management in the NBA"
2) They chance coaches more frequently than some people change underwear
3) They have no clue how to assemble a 'team' - they just add bits and pieces that don't fit

Cousins has as much positive impact on his team's success as any player in the league, he's just in a horrible situation.  Without him they'd be much, much, much worse.

Also Cousins actually doesn't come across to me as a 'cry baby' at all.  He's just a guy who's sick of putting in 110% effort every night and leaving everything on the court, while everybody else in the organisation treats it like it's a high school team.

He's just a very passionate guy who plays with a ton of emotion, and wears his heart on his sleeve.  How is that any different to somebody like Kevin Garnett, who will probably go down as one of the most loved Celtics of all time?

From all I've seen so far, Cousins seems like a very genuine and up front guy who is not afraid to tell it how it is.  He comes across to me as a guy who will fight for those who earn his respect, but turn his back on those who try to back-stab him.  This is clearly apparent based on the fact that he showed nothing but respect and support for his former coach even after said coach was out of the organisation...yet very quick to speak out against the 'snake in the grass' that is George Karl.  Cousins is real human, with real heart and real emotions and I can respect that about him.

That's a big contrast to a guy like Dwight Howard, who tells everybody how much he loves the coach...5 minutes after the media found out he asked to have said coach fired.  Now THAT is the type of fake, backstabbing headcase that really causes problems in an organisation. 

Everything I've seen from Cousins indicates to me that if he finds himself in an organisation that shows him love and respect, then he will give everything he has to that organisation.

TP