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Re: Cauley-Stein Foot Causing Stock to Fall?
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2015, 02:20:27 PM »

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Probably some sort of planted smokescreen.

Still not enamored with the guy and wouldn't exactly be happy if the Celtics traded up to get him.

What as opposed to KO or Sully? ROFL out big guys stink to high heaven and you want to pass on WCS?

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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2015, 02:26:31 PM »

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Here's an interesting idea wonder if anyone might be interested. If WCS is going to fall down there, let's trade up and grab a couple of these guys. WCS and Turner might be a crazy front line in a couple years.

Or WCS and Hezonja? Turner and Winslow?

Shoot for the moon I say..
and let's add lebron, davis, and durant while we are at it.  ::)
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Re: Cauley-Stein Foot Causing Stock to Fall?
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2015, 02:28:14 PM »

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Probably some sort of planted smokescreen.

Still not enamored with the guy and wouldn't exactly be happy if the Celtics traded up to get him.

What as opposed to KO or Sully? ROFL out big guys stink to high heaven and you want to pass on WCS?

Oh, I forgot WCS is a sure thing.  Certainly gonna solve this team's woes.  My bad.


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Re: Cauley-Stein Foot Causing Stock to Fall?
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2015, 02:38:26 PM »

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reminds me of the year Ainge convinced everyone we wanted Royce White... 

Re: Cauley-Stein Foot Causing Stock to Fall?
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2015, 03:03:43 PM »

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Here's an interesting idea wonder if anyone might be interested. If WCS is going to fall down there, let's trade up and grab a couple of these guys. WCS and Turner might be a crazy front line in a couple years.

Or WCS and Hezonja? Turner and Winslow?

Shoot for the moon I say..
Crazy front line from guys drafted after 10?

Imagination can be your enemy on draft day.

Re: Cauley-Stein Foot Causing Stock to Fall?
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2015, 03:04:00 PM »

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I would rather get Turner in the 10-12 range. Im honestly hating the fact we should really be picking from the 9th spot. All those teams have a star, are we the only team that does not have a star?

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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2015, 03:17:39 PM »

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Here's an interesting idea wonder if anyone might be interested. If WCS is going to fall down there, let's trade up and grab a couple of these guys. WCS and Turner might be a crazy front line in a couple years.

Or WCS and Hezonja? Turner and Winslow?

Shoot for the moon I say..
Crazy front line from guys drafted after 10?

Imagination can be your enemy on draft day.

Depends on what the asking price is. There's no way we're actually going to use all these draft picks. Let's start making moves. KO and Sully are taking us nowhere. We need to take some chances to get back to contention. Two 7'0" rim protectors falling to us int he back of the lottery? Danny would be nuts not to be jumping on that..

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« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2015, 03:19:41 PM »

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Here's an interesting idea wonder if anyone might be interested. If WCS is going to fall down there, let's trade up and grab a couple of these guys. WCS and Turner might be a crazy front line in a couple years.

Or WCS and Hezonja? Turner and Winslow?

Shoot for the moon I say..


Crazy front line from guys drafted after 10?

Imagination can be your enemy on draft day.

Draft is deep with guards and wings. We need a SF but Winslow is prob not attainable. So we'd move up to 10 to draft WCS or Turner but wouldn't move up to 10 AND 11 to get WCS AND Turner?

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« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2015, 03:23:50 PM »

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Here's an interesting idea wonder if anyone might be interested. If WCS is going to fall down there, let's trade up and grab a couple of these guys. WCS and Turner might be a crazy front line in a couple years.

Or WCS and Hezonja? Turner and Winslow?

Shoot for the moon I say..
Crazy front line from guys drafted after 10?

Imagination can be your enemy on draft day.

3 of the Celtics starters on the championship team were drafted at or after 10, Pierce (10), Rondo (21) and Perk (27). Players like Kobe Bryant, Ginobili, Green, Millsap, Klay Thompson, Tony Parker, Al Jefferson, and Monta Ellis were all taken outside of the top 10 and in some cases the second round. Players like Kwame Brown and Darko Milicic were also taken near the tops of their drafts. Being projected, much less picked, in the top 10 is far from a guarantee of a bright future, just as falling outside the top 10 doesn't mean they are a surefire bust.
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Re: Cauley-Stein Foot Causing Stock to Fall?
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2015, 03:30:33 PM »

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I don't want this guy unless he insures us Aldrige or Love. I could imagine WCS complimenting those players well. But lets be realistic here, Idk if the odds of getting someone from FA is good. So, I'd rather trade up for Porzingis. Celtics desperately need a star.

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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2015, 03:51:24 PM »

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Here's an interesting idea wonder if anyone might be interested. If WCS is going to fall down there, let's trade up and grab a couple of these guys. WCS and Turner might be a crazy front line in a couple years.

Or WCS and Hezonja? Turner and Winslow?

Shoot for the moon I say..
Crazy front line from guys drafted after 10?

Imagination can be your enemy on draft day.

3 of the Celtics starters on the championship team were drafter at or after 10, Pierce (10), Rondo (21) and Perk (27). Players like Kobe Bryant, Ginobili, Green, Millsap, Klay Thompson, Tony Parker, Al Jefferson, and Monta Ellis were all taken outside of the top 10 and in some cases the second round. Players like Kwame Brown and Darko Milicic were also taken near the tops of their drafts. Being projected, much less picked, in the top 10 is far from a guarantee of a bright future, just as falling outside the top 10 doesn't mean they are a surefire bust.

I know check out just the 2011 draft...pretty good bunch of players after the lottery that year...
Round   Pick   Player   Position   Nationality[n 1]   Team   School/club team
1   1   Kyrie Irving*   PG    United States[n 2]   Cleveland Cavaliers (from L.A. Clippers)[a]   Duke (Fr.)
1   2   Derrick Williams   SF/PF    United States   Minnesota Timberwolves   Arizona (So.)
1   3   Enes Kanter   C    Turkey[n 3]   Utah Jazz (from New Jersey)   Kentucky (Fr.)[n 4]
1   4   Tristan Thompson   PF    Canada   Cleveland Cavaliers   Texas (Fr.)
1   5   Jonas Valančiūnas   C    Lithuania   Toronto Raptors[c]   Lietuvos Rytas (Lithuania)
1   6   Jan Vesel?   PF    Czech Republic   Washington Wizards   Partizan (Serbia)
1   7   Bismack Biyombo   C    DR Congo   Sacramento Kings (traded to Charlotte)[A]   Fuenlabrada (Spain)
1   8   Brandon Knight   PG    United States   Detroit Pistons   Kentucky (Fr.)
1   9   Kemba Walker   PG    United States   Charlotte Bobcats   Connecticut (Jr.)
1   10   Jimmer Fredette   PG/SG    United States   Milwaukee Bucks (traded to Sacramento)[A]   BYU (Sr.)
1   11   Klay Thompson*   SG    United States   Golden State Warriors   Washington State (Jr.)
1   12   Alec Burks   SG    United States   Utah Jazz   Colorado (So.)
1   13   Markieff Morris   PF    United States   Phoenix Suns   Kansas (Jr.)
1   14   Marcus Morris   PF/SF    United States   Houston Rockets   Kansas (Jr.)
1   15   Kawhi Leonard   SF    United States   Indiana Pacers (traded to San Antonio)   San Diego State (So.)
1   16   Nikola Vučević   C    Montenegro[n 5]   Philadelphia 76ers   USC (Jr.)
1   17   Iman Shumpert   SG    United States   New York Knicks   Georgia Tech (Jr.)
1   18   Chris Singleton   SF    United States   Washington Wizards (from Atlanta)[d]   Florida State (Jr.)
1   19   Tobias Harris   SF    United States   Charlotte Bobcats (from New Orleans via Portland,[e] traded to Milwaukee)[A]   Tennessee (Fr.)
1   20   Donatas Motiejūnas   PF    Lithuania   Minnesota Timberwolves (from Memphis via Utah,[f] traded to Houston)[C]   Benetton Treviso (Italy)
1   21   Nolan Smith   PG    United States   Portland Trail Blazers   Duke (Sr.)
1   22   Kenneth Faried   PF    United States   Denver Nuggets   Morehead State (Sr.)
1   23   Nikola Mirotić   PF    Spain
 Montenegro[n 6]   Houston Rockets (from Orlando via Phoenix,[g] traded to Chicago via Minnesota)[C][D]   Real Madrid (Spain)
1   24   Reggie Jackson   PG    United States[n 7]   Oklahoma City Thunder   Boston College (Jr.)
1   25   MarShon Brooks   SG    United States   Boston Celtics (traded to New Jersey)[E]   Providence (Sr.)
1   26   Jordan Hamilton   SG    United States   Dallas Mavericks (traded to Denver)[F]   Texas (So.)
1   27   JaJuan Johnson   PF    United States   New Jersey Nets (from L.A. Lakers,[h] traded to Boston)[E]   Purdue (Sr.)
1   28   Norris Cole   PG    United States   Chicago Bulls (from Miami via Toronto,[c] traded to Miami via Minnesota)[D][G]   Cleveland State (Sr.)
1   29   Cory Joseph   PG    Canada   San Antonio Spurs   Texas (Fr.)
1   30   Jimmy Butler+   SG    United States   Chicago Bulls   Marquette (Sr.)
2   31   Bojan Bogdanović   SF/SG    Croatia[n 8]   Miami Heat (from Minnesota, traded to New Jersey via Minnesota)[G][H]   Cibona Zagreb (Croatia)[n 9]
2   32   Justin Harper   PF    United States   Cleveland Cavaliers (traded to Orlando)   Richmond (Sr.)
2   33   Kyle Singler   SF    United States   Detroit Pistons (from Toronto)[j]   Duke (Sr.)
2   34   Shelvin Mack   PG    United States   Washington Wizards   Butler (Jr.)
2   35   Tyler Honeycutt   SF    United States   Sacramento Kings   UCLA (So.)
2   36   Jordan Williams   PF    United States   New Jersey Nets   Maryland (So.)
2   37   Trey Thompkins   PF    United States   Los Angeles Clippers (from Detroit)[k]   Georgia (Jr.)
2   38   Chandler Parsons   SF    United States   Houston Rockets (from L.A. Clippers)[l][C]   Florida (Sr.)
2   39   Jeremy Tyler   PF    United States   Charlotte Bobcats (traded to Golden State)[J]   Tokyo Apache (Japan)
2   40   Jon Leuer   PF    United States   Milwaukee Bucks   Wisconsin (Sr.)
2   41   Darius Morris   PG    United States   Los Angeles Lakers (from Golden State via New Jersey)[h]   Michigan (So.)
2   42   Dāvis Bertāns#   SF    Latvia   Indiana Pacers (traded to San Antonio)   Union Olimpija (Slovenia)
2   43   Malcolm Lee   SG    United States   Chicago Bulls (from Utah,[m] traded to Minnesota)[D]   UCLA (Jr.)
2   44   Charles Jenkins   PG    United States   Golden State Warriors (from Phoenix via Chicago)[n]   Hofstra (Sr.)
2   45   Josh Harrellson   C    United States   New Orleans Hornets (from Philadelphia,
  • traded to New York)[K]   Kentucky (Sr.)

2   46   Andrew Goudelock   PG    United States   Los Angeles Lakers (from New York)[p]   College of Charleston (Sr.)
2   47   Travis Leslie   SG    United States   Los Angeles Clippers (from Houston)[l]   Georgia (Jr.)
2   48   Keith Benson   C    United States   Atlanta Hawks   Oakland (Sr.)
2   49   Josh Selby   PG    United States   Memphis Grizzlies   Kansas (Fr.)
2   50   Lavoy Allen   PF    United States   Philadelphia 76ers (from New Orleans)
  •    Temple (Sr.)

2   51   Jon Diebler#   SG    United States   Portland Trail Blazers   Ohio State (Sr.)
2   52   Vernon Macklin   PF    United States   Detroit Pistons (from Denver)[q]   Florida (Sr.)
2   53   DeAndre Liggins   SG    United States   Orlando Magic   Kentucky (Jr.)
2   54   Milan Mačvan#   PF    Serbia[n 10]   Cleveland Cavaliers (from Oklahoma City via Miami)[r]   Maccabi Tel Aviv (Israel)
2   55   E'Twaun Moore   SG    United States   Boston Celtics   Purdue (Sr.)
2   56   Chukwudiebere Maduabum#   PF    Nigeria   Los Angeles Lakers (traded to Denver)[L]   Bakersfield Jam (D-League)
2   57   Tanguy Ngombo#   SF    Qatar[n 11]   Dallas Mavericks (traded to Portland)[F]   Al Rayyan (Qatar)
2   58   Ater Majok#   PF    Australia[n 12]   Los Angeles Lakers (from Miami)   Gold Coast Blaze (Australia)
2   59   ?d?m Hanga#   SG    Hungary   San Antonio Spurs   Albacomp (Hungaria)
2   60   Isaiah Thomas   PG    United States   Sacramento Kings (from Chicago via Milwaukee)Washington (Jr.)
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SF: Andrei Kirilenko '05-'06; Peja Stojakovic
PF: Anthony Davis '17-'18;   Kevin Love, Griffin
C: Amare Stoudemire '04-'05;   Marcus Camby

Re: Cauley-Stein Foot Causing Stock to Fall?
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2015, 05:12:15 PM »

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Here's an interesting idea wonder if anyone might be interested. If WCS is going to fall down there, let's trade up and grab a couple of these guys. WCS and Turner might be a crazy front line in a couple years.

Or WCS and Hezonja? Turner and Winslow?

Shoot for the moon I say..

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« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2015, 05:29:38 PM »

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Here's an interesting idea wonder if anyone might be interested. If WCS is going to fall down there, let's trade up and grab a couple of these guys. WCS and Turner might be a crazy front line in a couple years.

Or WCS and Hezonja? Turner and Winslow?

Shoot for the moon I say..

Is that you Future Celtics Owner?

Who is Future Celtics Owner?

Re: Cauley-Stein Foot Causing Stock to Fall?
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2015, 05:49:30 PM »

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Here's an interesting idea wonder if anyone might be interested. If WCS is going to fall down there, let's trade up and grab a couple of these guys. WCS and Turner might be a crazy front line in a couple years.

Or WCS and Hezonja? Turner and Winslow?

Shoot for the moon I say..

Is that you Future Celtics Owner?

Who is Future Celtics Owner?

A poster on this board that used to bring every topic imaginable to the Celtics getting Turner and Upshaw.  Rereading what you wrote, I blew the joke as you didn't mention Upshaw, Im getting old I guess.
2019 historical draft.  Pick 12

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« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2015, 05:53:16 PM »

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Here's an interesting idea wonder if anyone might be interested. If WCS is going to fall down there, let's trade up and grab a couple of these guys. WCS and Turner might be a crazy front line in a couple years.

Or WCS and Hezonja? Turner and Winslow?

Shoot for the moon I say..
Crazy front line from guys drafted after 10?

Imagination can be your enemy on draft day.

3 of the Celtics starters on the championship team were drafter at or after 10, Pierce (10), Rondo (21) and Perk (27). Players like Kobe Bryant, Ginobili, Green, Millsap, Klay Thompson, Tony Parker, Al Jefferson, and Monta Ellis were all taken outside of the top 10 and in some cases the second round. Players like Kwame Brown and Darko Milicic were also taken near the tops of their drafts. Being projected, much less picked, in the top 10 is far from a guarantee of a bright future, just as falling outside the top 10 doesn't mean they are a surefire bust.
I think you are missing the point. The previous poster was already excited about these guys. The reality is that they most likely won't be anything special.

It is draft hype. People inflate the value of these guys due to them not having shown their NBA limitations yet.