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Offline greg683x

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I would say that aside from a few people that clearly have an issue with him (WOJ), most national writers are pretty easy on Lebron and give him tons of praise. The negative stuff you see is more from bloggers and fans than the national media. The ABC announcer really slobber over him in particular and obviously he has basically a press manager at ESPN (Windhorst). Do you disagree?
He is a vehicle used to get ratings for ABC , pure and simple.
I agree that he gets a pretty good deal for the most part.
In the heat of battle emotions get tested, I remember Jordan changing plays back in his Day, The 'Shot' against the Cavs in 89 a classic example.
Have to question Stein's motivation besides clicks on this one.


windhorst said the same thing , I don't think Stein is making this up

i dont understand how anyone would think Stein is making this up anyway.  Lebrons been making subtle jabs at Blatts control over the team in the media all season long.
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You build them up so you can tear them down.Media 101

I would say that aside from a few people that clearly have an issue with him (WOJ), most national writers are pretty easy on Lebron and give him tons of praise. The negative stuff you see is more from bloggers and fans than the national media. The ABC announcer really slobber over him in particular and obviously he has basically a press manager at ESPN (Windhorst). Do you disagree?
He is a vehicle used to get ratings for ABC , pure and simple.
I agree that he gets a pretty good deal for the most part.
In the heat of battle emotions get tested, I remember Jordan changing plays back in his Day, The 'Shot' against the Cavs in 89 a classic example.
Have to question Stein's motivation besides clicks on this one.


windhorst said the same thing , I don't think Stein is making this up
I have no doubt that this stuff happened , maybe Stein got a little tired of the total Love fest of Lebron during the Finals and wanted to balance things out a little.

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You build them up so you can tear them down.Media 101

I would say that aside from a few people that clearly have an issue with him (WOJ), most national writers are pretty easy on Lebron and give him tons of praise. The negative stuff you see is more from bloggers and fans than the national media. The ABC announcer really slobber over him in particular and obviously he has basically a press manager at ESPN (Windhorst). Do you disagree?
He is a vehicle used to get ratings for ABC , pure and simple.
I agree that he gets a pretty good deal for the most part.
In the heat of battle emotions get tested, I remember Jordan changing plays back in his Day, The 'Shot' against the Cavs in 89 a classic example.
Have to question Stein's motivation besides clicks on this one.


windhorst said the same thing , I don't think Stein is making this up

i dont understand how anyone would think Stein is making this up anyway.  Lebrons been making subtle jabs at Blatts control over the team in the media all season long.

So quick qestion, where are the receipts?? better yet where are the video clips. I mean media have been telling u that Lebron and Blatt have been feuding all season right?Lebron has been treating blatt like crap no? So where are the video clips of this happening. There are cameras every not just TV cameras but ppls fones. You mean to tell me for a full season we cant get one legit video clip?

We have clips of Rondo's issue with RC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mO48ds7q0U

We have clips of RW silliness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcS8lXN5A5o

Meanwhile CAvs/Lebron have been under the microscope the whole season and there still isnt a single clip of Lebrons so called unbecoming behaviour towards Blatt.OK

By the way the fact that Stein uses Windhorst as a source of info for Lebron invalidates his whole article

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2014/04/windhorst-lebron-and-kyrie-have-drifted-apart/

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I’m just giving you my feel right now and my feel is that (Kyrie’s) not crazy about [signing the full max extension] unless he gets everything checked off across the board.

And the other thing is: if the Cavs ever dream of having LeBron, it’s not going to be with Kyrie there. LeBron and Kyrie have drifted apart in the last few years, even to the point that if the Cavs wanted to get LeBron they would maybe trade Kyrie for someone who would fit better with LeBron. And I’m not making that up. That line of thinking was not originated by me. That’s just the truth.

I guess it amazes me how Journalists can spew such drivel for years and still be considered legit sources of inside info

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This

Is why I think Kevin Love might or will leave .


Why Eric Spostra get very little credit behind the scenes in Miami

Everybody knew , he was a soft little dude, yes man,  not a leader .....or somebody who would fight and argue with LeBron and Wade.

Their are tuff as nails and snarley old Riley who takes no crap from anybody in the background to guide he ship in Miami.

Cleveland has NO authority figure to back up the coach .......SMH

Wade is a total thug , would be in jail if not for BB .   He can't be handled or coached in a traditional fashion.......who can coach him?

They accept no authority figure .......have been given free rein over the team.....James checks out during the season ...just walks out ...to vacation ...leaving the team high and dry.

Wade might listen to LeBron and that's about it .

again......I see no reason for Love to want to play. FOR. LeBron .......

It's his team......you know the owner sucked up mightily ......it's your team LeBron do as you will I sure was the way the gig went down .


The first mistake was to trade off Wiggins for Love.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2015, 05:37:38 PM by SHAQATTACK »

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You build them up so you can tear them down.Media 101

I would say that aside from a few people that clearly have an issue with him (WOJ), most national writers are pretty easy on Lebron and give him tons of praise. The negative stuff you see is more from bloggers and fans than the national media. The ABC announcer really slobber over him in particular and obviously he has basically a press manager at ESPN (Windhorst). Do you disagree?
He is a vehicle used to get ratings for ABC , pure and simple.
I agree that he gets a pretty good deal for the most part.
In the heat of battle emotions get tested, I remember Jordan changing plays back in his Day, The 'Shot' against the Cavs in 89 a classic example.
Have to question Stein's motivation besides clicks on this one.


windhorst said the same thing , I don't think Stein is making this up

i dont understand how anyone would think Stein is making this up anyway.  Lebrons been making subtle jabs at Blatts control over the team in the media all season long.

So quick qestion, where are the receipts?? better yet where are the video clips. I mean media have been telling u that Lebron and Blatt have been feuding all season right?Lebron has been treating blatt like crap no? So where are the video clips of this happening. There are cameras every not just TV cameras but ppls fones. You mean to tell me for a full season we cant get one legit video clip?

We have clips of Rondo's issue with RC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mO48ds7q0U

We have clips of RW silliness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcS8lXN5A5o

Meanwhile CAvs/Lebron have been under the microscope the whole season and there still isnt a single clip of Lebrons so called unbecoming behaviour towards Blatt.OK

By the way the fact that Stein uses Windhorst as a source of info for Lebron invalidates his whole article

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2014/04/windhorst-lebron-and-kyrie-have-drifted-apart/

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I’m just giving you my feel right now and my feel is that (Kyrie’s) not crazy about [signing the full max extension] unless he gets everything checked off across the board.

And the other thing is: if the Cavs ever dream of having LeBron, it’s not going to be with Kyrie there. LeBron and Kyrie have drifted apart in the last few years, even to the point that if the Cavs wanted to get LeBron they would maybe trade Kyrie for someone who would fit better with LeBron. And I’m not making that up. That line of thinking was not originated by me. That’s just the truth.

I guess it amazes me how Journalists can spew such drivel for years and still be considered legit sources of inside info


are you serious??  Lebron has said himself in interviews that Blatt would draw up a play and Lebron would just veto it right in the huddle and say no we're not doing that.

heres some video evidence coming straight from Lebrons mouth


http://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/10/lebron-james-buzzer-beater-david-blatt-timout-cleveland-cavaliers-chicago-bulls-game-4
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You build them up so you can tear them down.Media 101

I would say that aside from a few people that clearly have an issue with him (WOJ), most national writers are pretty easy on Lebron and give him tons of praise. The negative stuff you see is more from bloggers and fans than the national media. The ABC announcer really slobber over him in particular and obviously he has basically a press manager at ESPN (Windhorst). Do you disagree?
He is a vehicle used to get ratings for ABC , pure and simple.
I agree that he gets a pretty good deal for the most part.
In the heat of battle emotions get tested, I remember Jordan changing plays back in his Day, The 'Shot' against the Cavs in 89 a classic example.
Have to question Stein's motivation besides clicks on this one.


windhorst said the same thing , I don't think Stein is making this up

i dont understand how anyone would think Stein is making this up anyway.  Lebrons been making subtle jabs at Blatts control over the team in the media all season long.

So quick qestion, where are the receipts?? better yet where are the video clips. I mean media have been telling u that Lebron and Blatt have been feuding all season right?Lebron has been treating blatt like crap no? So where are the video clips of this happening. There are cameras every not just TV cameras but ppls fones. You mean to tell me for a full season we cant get one legit video clip?

We have clips of Rondo's issue with RC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mO48ds7q0U

We have clips of RW silliness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcS8lXN5A5o

Meanwhile CAvs/Lebron have been under the microscope the whole season and there still isnt a single clip of Lebrons so called unbecoming behaviour towards Blatt.OK

By the way the fact that Stein uses Windhorst as a source of info for Lebron invalidates his whole article

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2014/04/windhorst-lebron-and-kyrie-have-drifted-apart/

Quote
I’m just giving you my feel right now and my feel is that (Kyrie’s) not crazy about [signing the full max extension] unless he gets everything checked off across the board.

And the other thing is: if the Cavs ever dream of having LeBron, it’s not going to be with Kyrie there. LeBron and Kyrie have drifted apart in the last few years, even to the point that if the Cavs wanted to get LeBron they would maybe trade Kyrie for someone who would fit better with LeBron. And I’m not making that up. That line of thinking was not originated by me. That’s just the truth.

I guess it amazes me how Journalists can spew such drivel for years and still be considered legit sources of inside info


are you serious??  Lebron has said himself in interviews that Blatt would draw up a play and Lebron would just veto it right in the huddle and say no we're not doing that.

heres some video evidence coming straight from Lebrons mouth


http://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/10/lebron-james-buzzer-beater-david-blatt-timout-cleveland-cavaliers-chicago-bulls-game-4

If this is your proof of Lebron treating Blatt like crap then you most def have not been watching the NBA for long or just not very well learned with the dynamics of the game. This has gone on for decades in the League esp with superstars in the heat of the moment situation. Plus this is one play I mean seriously.

This is the exact same story about Lebron apparently changing plays on the floor. All points guard do this and there really isnt anything peculiar about it. Again media just pull stories out of their ass, stick Lebron on it and it spreads like wild fire.

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Again media just pull stories out of their ass, stick Lebron on it and it spreads like wild fire.

So you honestly think he would tarnish his credibility by inserting HIMSELF as a witness , instead of using an anonymous source, just to make up a story..sure ok  ::)

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You build them up so you can tear them down.Media 101

I would say that aside from a few people that clearly have an issue with him (WOJ), most national writers are pretty easy on Lebron and give him tons of praise. The negative stuff you see is more from bloggers and fans than the national media. The ABC announcer really slobber over him in particular and obviously he has basically a press manager at ESPN (Windhorst). Do you disagree?
He is a vehicle used to get ratings for ABC , pure and simple.
I agree that he gets a pretty good deal for the most part.
In the heat of battle emotions get tested, I remember Jordan changing plays back in his Day, The 'Shot' against the Cavs in 89 a classic example.
Have to question Stein's motivation besides clicks on this one.


windhorst said the same thing , I don't think Stein is making this up

i dont understand how anyone would think Stein is making this up anyway.  Lebrons been making subtle jabs at Blatts control over the team in the media all season long.

So quick qestion, where are the receipts?? better yet where are the video clips. I mean media have been telling u that Lebron and Blatt have been feuding all season right?Lebron has been treating blatt like crap no? So where are the video clips of this happening. There are cameras every not just TV cameras but ppls fones. You mean to tell me for a full season we cant get one legit video clip?

We have clips of Rondo's issue with RC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mO48ds7q0U

We have clips of RW silliness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcS8lXN5A5o

Meanwhile CAvs/Lebron have been under the microscope the whole season and there still isnt a single clip of Lebrons so called unbecoming behaviour towards Blatt.OK

By the way the fact that Stein uses Windhorst as a source of info for Lebron invalidates his whole article

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2014/04/windhorst-lebron-and-kyrie-have-drifted-apart/

Quote
I’m just giving you my feel right now and my feel is that (Kyrie’s) not crazy about [signing the full max extension] unless he gets everything checked off across the board.

And the other thing is: if the Cavs ever dream of having LeBron, it’s not going to be with Kyrie there. LeBron and Kyrie have drifted apart in the last few years, even to the point that if the Cavs wanted to get LeBron they would maybe trade Kyrie for someone who would fit better with LeBron. And I’m not making that up. That line of thinking was not originated by me. That’s just the truth.

I guess it amazes me how Journalists can spew such drivel for years and still be considered legit sources of inside info


are you serious??  Lebron has said himself in interviews that Blatt would draw up a play and Lebron would just veto it right in the huddle and say no we're not doing that.

heres some video evidence coming straight from Lebrons mouth


http://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/10/lebron-james-buzzer-beater-david-blatt-timout-cleveland-cavaliers-chicago-bulls-game-4

If this is your proof of Lebron treating Blatt like crap then you most def have not been watching the NBA for long or just not very well learned with the dynamics of the game. This has gone on for decades in the League esp with superstars in the heat of the moment situation. Plus this is one play I mean seriously.

This is the exact same story about Lebron apparently changing plays on the floor. All points guard do this and there really isnt anything peculiar about it. Again media just pull stories out of their ass, stick Lebron on it and it spreads like wild fire.

Lebron offers this information up on his own, the media doesnt put him in a postition to give this information so they can run with it.  He clearly likes everyone knowing he has complete control.  Watch the clip dude, in the interview, he says coach drew up a play, and I nixed it, then he clearly smiles.

No ones saying stars havent called their own plays before.  But please, PLEASE find me a clip of a player openly undressing his coach like this on his own.

It's common knowledge that Peyton Manning has been calling his own plays for years, but please find me an interview with Peyton where theyre talking about some ingame decision and he makes comments like these.  The reason people make this into a big deal isnt bc of some axe to grind with Lebron, it's because its really disrespectful.


and the fact that you compare something like this to being familiar with dynamics of the game is absolutely HILARIOUS
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Meanwhile the same David Blatt is holding  press conference talking about how amazing it was working with Lebron and how he is going nowhere.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2500281-top-takeaways-from-david-blatt-david-griffins-end-of-season-press-conference

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Cavs coach David Blatt says he isn't going anywhere. Both Blatt and GM Griffin say they will build off this season, add roster help, etc.

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David Blatt calls the opportunity to coach LeBron James "invigorating and exhilarating"

I mean if Lebron really is humuliating Blatt there really isnt any reason for him not stay is there. Blatt doesnt need any validation in the NBA or Cavs or even Lebron. He certainly wouldnt need the money and would also easily find AC position somewhere else. But yet he chooses to stay and apparently be bullied, humiliated and kicked around by big bad Lebron!! Maybe Lebron is holding his family hostage though and forcing him to stay at the Cavs as his battering ram ::) ::)

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Blatt on LeBron expressing his opinion in huddles: "I think it's important he feels empowered." Says his "heart was in the right place"

Hey so chances are in the heat of the moment, the had a slight disagreement on one play. Happens all the time esp of Title contenders. They moved on from it and focuses back on the task at hand. But hey lets blow that out of proportion for a story. Lebron is in it, sheep are always looking for a reason to spew hate towards him, we get tons of clicks!!WIN WIN situation

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I am just here to watch the antics now.

This is great ;D

LeBron gets so much hate right now. I might have some sympathy for him now...

Naaawww, I love it! Hahahah
« Last Edit: June 18, 2015, 06:34:54 PM by sahara »

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people judge Lebron too harshly......the wrong way.

you have to judge him like he's 3 people in one.

talent - sure, one of the best players in the league.

the greatest ever - I'd say he's in the top 20 of the list, maybe between 15 & 20 somewhere.

as a person - he's starting to border on being a scum bag.
 

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You build them up so you can tear them down.Media 101

I would say that aside from a few people that clearly have an issue with him (WOJ), most national writers are pretty easy on Lebron and give him tons of praise. The negative stuff you see is more from bloggers and fans than the national media. The ABC announcer really slobber over him in particular and obviously he has basically a press manager at ESPN (Windhorst). Do you disagree?
He is a vehicle used to get ratings for ABC , pure and simple.
I agree that he gets a pretty good deal for the most part.
In the heat of battle emotions get tested, I remember Jordan changing plays back in his Day, The 'Shot' against the Cavs in 89 a classic example.
Have to question Stein's motivation besides clicks on this one.


windhorst said the same thing , I don't think Stein is making this up

i dont understand how anyone would think Stein is making this up anyway.  Lebrons been making subtle jabs at Blatts control over the team in the media all season long.

So quick qestion, where are the receipts?? better yet where are the video clips. I mean media have been telling u that Lebron and Blatt have been feuding all season right?Lebron has been treating blatt like crap no? So where are the video clips of this happening. There are cameras every not just TV cameras but ppls fones. You mean to tell me for a full season we cant get one legit video clip?

We have clips of Rondo's issue with RC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mO48ds7q0U

We have clips of RW silliness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcS8lXN5A5o

Meanwhile CAvs/Lebron have been under the microscope the whole season and there still isnt a single clip of Lebrons so called unbecoming behaviour towards Blatt.OK

By the way the fact that Stein uses Windhorst as a source of info for Lebron invalidates his whole article

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2014/04/windhorst-lebron-and-kyrie-have-drifted-apart/

Quote
I’m just giving you my feel right now and my feel is that (Kyrie’s) not crazy about [signing the full max extension] unless he gets everything checked off across the board.

And the other thing is: if the Cavs ever dream of having LeBron, it’s not going to be with Kyrie there. LeBron and Kyrie have drifted apart in the last few years, even to the point that if the Cavs wanted to get LeBron they would maybe trade Kyrie for someone who would fit better with LeBron. And I’m not making that up. That line of thinking was not originated by me. That’s just the truth.

I guess it amazes me how Journalists can spew such drivel for years and still be considered legit sources of inside info


are you serious??  Lebron has said himself in interviews that Blatt would draw up a play and Lebron would just veto it right in the huddle and say no we're not doing that.

heres some video evidence coming straight from Lebrons mouth


http://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/10/lebron-james-buzzer-beater-david-blatt-timout-cleveland-cavaliers-chicago-bulls-game-4

If this is your proof of Lebron treating Blatt like crap then you most def have not been watching the NBA for long or just not very well learned with the dynamics of the game. This has gone on for decades in the League esp with superstars in the heat of the moment situation. Plus this is one play I mean seriously.

This is the exact same story about Lebron apparently changing plays on the floor. All points guard do this and there really isnt anything peculiar about it. Again media just pull stories out of their ass, stick Lebron on it and it spreads like wild fire.

Lebron offers this information up on his own, the media doesnt put him in a postition to give this information so they can run with it.  He clearly likes everyone knowing he has complete control.  Watch the clip dude, in the interview, he says coach drew up a play, and I nixed it, then he clearly smiles.

No ones saying stars havent called their own plays before.  But please, PLEASE find me a clip of a player openly undressing his coach like this on his own.

It's common knowledge that Peyton Manning has been calling his own plays for years, but please find me an interview with Peyton where theyre talking about some ingame decision and he makes comments like these.  The reason people make this into a big deal isnt bc of some axe to grind with Lebron, it's because its really disrespectful.


and the fact that you compare something like this to being familiar with dynamics of the game is absolutely HILARIOUS

SO in the heat of the moment, when his team is about to possibly lose a series, he asked for the ball confident he would win the game which he did! Then because he described what happens that means he is undressing the coach?? OK. Of course you will never offer up all the praises he has given Blatt. Apparently that doesnt factor into the equation since every thing he offers up is gospel to you eh?

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Any time someone is scrutinized really for nothing, I'm able to relate," James said (of Blatt). "For him in his instance, obviously, we knew there were a lot of people that were going to say things that didn't mean much. ... People love reading the negative things more than the positive things, and I think he's handled the situation unbelievably. Being a rookie coach in the NBA and being able to take this team to the Finals, I think he's done a hell of a job."

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“He’s been great,” star forward LeBron James, the four-time NBA MVP, said. “He’s prepared us to go out and give us the best chance to win a ballgame. For us as players, we have to go out and do that.

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Maybe Lebron is holding his family hostage though and forcing him to stay at the Cavs as his battering ram ::) ::)

Way to not over exaggerate, when making a point about people over exaggerating too much.

I'm gonna go ahead and throw out a lets agree to disagree since this seems to be going in a real rational direction
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