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Interesting Sully Reference in Grantland Article
« on: June 18, 2015, 09:21:31 AM »

Offline Wretch

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http://grantland.com/the-triangle/ryen-russillos-nba-draft-confidential-real-scouts-on-towns-russell-and-okafor/

From a scout concerning Okafor:

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He’ll be there, and do the right things. But it’s like Jared Sullinger: I want to play, but I don’t want to lose weight. I don’t want to really get in shape. I want to do enough, but I’m not going to do extra. And that is concerning.

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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2015, 11:59:47 AM »

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I would think by now, judging by what Sully indicated, he must be down 15 pounds since the season ending game with the Cavs. We're heading into July, by the end of September we should see a Sully that is an in shape, honest 255.

If I were DA I would send a representative to Ohio to check on him, see how the conditioning is going see, if the organization can do anything to help. If I found unsatisfactory results...he would be a trading chip to move up in the draft.  If he isn't going to take himself seriously nether should we.
 

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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2015, 12:05:24 PM »

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Certainly concerning stuff.

This is make or break time for Sully. Let's hope he realizes his potential.


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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2015, 12:20:47 PM »

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Sully, the last chance to prove the doubters wrong. Please, prove em wrong!

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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2015, 12:58:59 PM »

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I don't see where the basis of the quote stems from. These generalizations are just plain mean.

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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2015, 01:13:47 PM »

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Sully will lose a bunch of weight. No doubt in my mind. Think it makes him marginally better at best though.

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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2015, 01:14:23 PM »

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Most NBA players know what they are supposed to say to the media.  For those who don't, they typically have lots of people around them letting them know.

That's a very different thing than truly feeling the need to do what it is they say they will do.  Most of these players got to the NBA by being the best of the best despite whatever issues there may have been with their work ethic or fitness.  So it's really up to the player whether it's going to sink in that the NBA requires a different level of commitment.

Guys like Sullinger, James Young, etc ... maybe they decide that yes, succeeding in the league will require a totally different approach than what got them here.  Maybe they don't, and they never get beyond where they are now, or they fall out of the league entirely.
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2015, 01:31:08 PM »

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Weird reference and weird timing. Okafor has slimmed down noticeably from his time at Duke. Not sure of the comparison.
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Meh.

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Most NBA players know what they are supposed to say to the media.  For those who don't, they typically have lots of people around them letting them know.



Guys like Sullinger, James Young, etc ... maybe they decide that yes, succeeding in the league will require a totally different approach than what got them here.  Maybe they don't, and they never get beyond where they are now, or they fall out of the league entirely.

Yeah ...I see it the same ......I guess that s what makes me cheer for KO ..... He doesn't have the equal natural gifts of those two.  But, you can't say he doesn't  put the effort in off the court .

It s hard to fathom for me ....making the big show .....and not busting every nut , every day to get better , and stay healthy .  Everything is on the line for these guys .  Can't stand around, got to grab the moment and run hard as you can

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Wow Shaq, that last paragraph turned me on a little

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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2015, 03:41:15 PM »

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Most NBA players know what they are supposed to say to the media.  For those who don't, they typically have lots of people around them letting them know.

That's a very different thing than truly feeling the need to do what it is they say they will do.  Most of these players got to the NBA by being the best of the best despite whatever issues there may have been with their work ethic or fitness.  So it's really up to the player whether it's going to sink in that the NBA requires a different level of commitment.

Guys like Sullinger, James Young, etc ... maybe they decide that yes, succeeding in the league will require a totally different approach than what got them here.  Maybe they don't, and they never get beyond where they are now, or they fall out of the league entirely.

I think that's what made me so happy about the article ESPN ran on Young yesterday. That story really emphasized the tremendous amount of work he's already put in this summer. He's gained 15 pounds, shed some body fat, added 3 inches to his vertical, and he's been in Waltham putting in work with the team more than almost anyone. Both Ainge and Stevens had quotes taken directly for the story praising Youngs effort and work ethic this off-season and their belief in him.

When have we ever read a story like that about Sullinger? It worries me that of all the guys I've read who have come to Waltham this summer (Smart, Young, KO, Bradley, etc .) Sullinger has been in Ohio. I don't have a problem with guys training on their own, they're under no obligation to stay in Mass, but if I were Sully I'd be there as much as anyone. Ainge publicly called him out for not putting in the work. You'd think he would be in the facility all the time, using all the resources available there and showing Ainge and CBS that he's willing to do everything possible to be the best he can be. I mean, if I had to bet I would say he comes into camp in as good a shape as ever, simply because he understands he's at a cross-roads and if he wants to get paid, he needs to have his best season to date. I think Satch will pretty much force him. But it's still concerning. I'm sure they have guys checking up on him, so if Ainge isn't happy with his progress so far I think he trades him in the next month or two. Sully's value will diminish by the day if he doesn't show significant progress.

I think Okafor is obviously more talented than Sullinger, but that type of mind-set is certainly a concern, especially if your considering using a top 5 pick on him. That kind of attitude, while sometimes changeable or dependent on surroundings, could be the difference in whether Okafor becomes a guy like Al Jefferson or a guy closer to Tim Duncan.

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Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait.



James Young was the first guy to gain 15 pounds of muscle during the offseason? WHERE IS OUR OFFICIAL TRACKER? Lang Wittaker has betrayed us?
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Sully really is not that valued across the county but guys love him here.   He is a cautionary tale it would seem now by scouts.    The real criticism of him when he was drafted was a lack of athletic ability and the back injury.  His D is pathetic.   I have better hope for Young who has the physical tools to do well, in that he is quick and can leap.   He has to learn defense and commit to it mentally.  Even if he gets in shape, he will still be unathletic.   He does possess some skill and has great hands.   I was very unhappy when we drafted both him and KO.   Both are slow and unathletic but have some skills.   

I think Ainge tried the skills guys but realizes that we need some athletic talent too.

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If I were DA I would send a representative to Ohio to check on him, see how the conditioning is going see, if the organization can do anything to help. If I found unsatisfactory results...he would be a trading chip to move up in the draft.  If he isn't going to take himself seriously nether should we.

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