Nets looking to trade Mason Plumlee to move up in draft

[Denis998]

I feel that his stock fell immensely at some point in the season, basically fell off the rotation and became terribly inconsistent. Dropped him off of my fantasy squad at some point.

[Rosco917]

Plumlee is a step up over Zeller on the defensive end. No way would I give the 16th pick for him.
Maybe 33.

[rollie mass]

does anybody see a rookie being bettr than plumlee in their first season-2016 is next year,most rookies are not going to help at 16-but i like portis for celts and anderson in 20's

[Tr1boy]

They got sick of his ugly shooting mechanics.

[Celtics4ever]

I don't think he is worth it.  KG lit a fire under him but it went out when he left.

[saltlover]

Plumlee is a step up over Zeller on the defensive end. No way would I give the 16th pick for him.
Maybe 33.

He's also a big step back from Zeller on the offensive end.  And Plumlee's defense isn't good enough to justify it in most situations.  About the only thing Plumlee does significantly better is get steals.  And that's definitely worth something.  But Zeller offers decent passing, good mid-range shooting, and very good free throws -- none of which Plumlee can even pretend to do.

[Celtics4ever]

He's also a big step back from Zeller on the offensive end.

  I agree that Zeller has a hook and more range but I think a lot of this " big step back" is hyperbole and BS.

Plumlee shot .57% with 8.7 PPG and 6 RPG my big concern would be FT % of .495 and .9 APG
Zeller shot .549% with 10.7 PPG and 5.7 RPG and FT% .82   and 1.6 APG

Plumlee shoots and rebounds better, Zeller is a better passer and spreads the floor and keep the D more honest.  Zeller is slightly better their PER are Plumlee 18.4 and Zeller 19.01

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6631/tyler-zeller

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2488653/mason-plumlee

Plumlee is a better shot blocker, and a slighty better athlete with a no step vert of 30.5" and max vertical of 36" to Zeller's 30" and 34" but  they are almost the same player in many regards.   It would be nice to have a better defender at times with size.

[SHAQATTACK]

I like Zeller offensive game a ton better .  Plumlee is heavier , tad more athletic force full on the defensive scheme rebounding at the rim


I like Zellers IQ and passing better .   He works hard and team guy .....which PlumLee is too.....just redundant for Celtics.


Not an upgrade for Celtics .....at the backup,position .....

Zeller is a backup really , but so is Plumlee ......

Celtics need 4 Star players ....not more role players.

[chambers]

I think the Nets would be looking to move into the late lottery by moving Plumlee so I don't think they'd take just #16 without a big sweetener or a 2nd round pick thrown in.
I'd assume they're trying to go after Jerian Grant, Booker or Payne considering there's some depth at the guard spots between 12-18 range.

As far as Plumlee goes, he's 25 but he's still got a bit of potential on both ends. He's probably slightly better than Zeller right now on both ends but Zeller is the same age and has more fire to improve.
I mean Plumlee could just be bummed about being outcast upon Lopez' return and KG leaving but you gotta be mentally harder than that.
I'll take Zeller please.

[CelticGuardian]

I say we've done enough deals with the Nets... let them keep gasping for air.

[chambers]

He's also a big step back from Zeller on the offensive end.

  I agree that Zeller has a hook and more range but I think a lot of this " big step back" is hyperbole and BS.

Plumlee shot .57% with 8.7 PPG and 6 RPG my big concern would be FT % of .495 and .9 APG
Zeller shot .549% with 10.7 PPG and 5.7 RPG and FT% .82   and 1.6 APG

Plumlee shoots and rebounds better, Zeller is a better passer and spreads the floor and keep the D more honest.  Zeller is slightly better their PER are Plumlee 18.4 and Zeller 19.01

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6631/tyler-zeller

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2488653/mason-plumlee

Plumlee is a better shot blocker, and a slighty better athlete with a no step vert of 30.5" and max vertical of 36" to Zeller's 30" and 34" but  they are almost the same player in many regards.   It would be nice to have a better defender at times with size.

TP very good points. I mean Plumlee looked like a legit nba starting big man when KG was there.
I agree that his defensive presence would be nice, although Zeller became a passable/improving rim protector later in the season.
I do think Plumlee is being under rated by most though.

[Vermont Green]

does anybody see a rookie being bettr than plumlee in their first season-2016 is next year,most rookies are not going to help at 16-but i like portis for celts and anderson in 20's

A rookie at #16 might be better than Plumlee but even if the rookie isn't better year 1, Plumlee is 25 years old, the rookie will be probably 20 years old.  At this point in the Celtics team development, we are better off with the 20 year old with presumably a higher ceiling.

I see no way the Celtics do #16 straight for Plumlee.  #16 is a better value match for Plumlee + #29 but the Celtics are trying to consolidate and move up (I would think) not move down.

[saltlover]

He's also a big step back from Zeller on the offensive end.

  I agree that Zeller has a hook and more range but I think a lot of this " big step back" is hyperbole and BS.

Plumlee shot .57% with 8.7 PPG and 6 RPG my big concern would be FT % of .495 and .9 APG
Zeller shot .549% with 10.7 PPG and 5.7 RPG and FT% .82   and 1.6 APG

Plumlee shoots and rebounds better, Zeller is a better passer and spreads the floor and keep the D more honest.  Zeller is slightly better their PER are Plumlee 18.4 and Zeller 19.01

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6631/tyler-zeller

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2488653/mason-plumlee

Plumlee is a better shot blocker, and a slighty better athlete with a no step vert of 30.5" and max vertical of 36" to Zeller's 30" and 34" but  they are almost the same player in many regards.   It would be nice to have a better defender at times with size.

Plumlee took almost all (3/4) of his shots near the rim.  Zeller took fewer than half his shots from that length.  Looking at FG% alone is completely misleading.  Plumlee is much more limited offensively.  If you don't get him the ball at the rim, he's not useful.  He shot 38% from 3-10 feet, and barely took any (made any) shots beyond 10 feet (10 attempts on the year, making 3 of them.)  by comparison, Zeller took over 20% of his shots (more than 100 attempts) from beyond 10 feet, and made them at better than 50%.

Plumlee kills your spacing.  He also was bad passer/balhandler (less than one assist per game, more turnovers than assists).  Zeller isnt Olynyk with the ball, but his ratio was the opposite of Plumlee's.  If you get Plumlee the ball at the rim, he'll put it in the basket about the same rate as Zeller.  If you get him the ball elsewhere, he's completey neutralized.

[D.o.s.]

No thank you.  Zeller is better.

Zeller is a back-up on a good team.

He was a starter on a good team this season.

Reaching.

Zeller is better than Plumlee, though.