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Offline Endless Paradise

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So I've got egg on my face. Literally the exact scenario I said a few days ago was unprecedented and more than likely wouldn't happen seems to be very likely to happen.

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How will this affect the Bulls?

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It doesn't affect them immediately unless he signs the qualifying offer. They can still match any offers, they just won't be able to lock him in long-term as they'd like.

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Makes it even more likely will match an offer sheet.

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They will match any offer, be crazy not to
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Also, this finally provides some kind of support to that Dan Bernstein report about Butler and Rose having a bit of tension or misunderstanding as to how to co-exist on the court.

As for why I didn't believe the report at first: because Bernstein's kind of a hack.

Quote from: Ricky O'Donnell
Wojnarowski also gives some credence to previous reports of a Butler-Derrick Rose feud first outlined by Dan Bernstein. In between bullying multiple women in the Chicago media for no apparent reason, Bernstein reported there was tension between Butler and Rose in Game 6 of the Bulls' second round playoff series loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers. Rose was increasingly passive offensively in the second half, attempting just four shots while Butler attempted 12 over the final two quarters.

Bernstein has a history of harboring an anti-Rose agenda, and Butler and Rose have certainly showed no outward signs of a falling out. Still, it's worth noting that Wojnarowski wrote Butler and Rose "need to come to a greater understanding about how to best co-exist on the floor." There's a lot left open for interpretation there.

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Someone should tell Woj that if the Bulls give Butler a maximum qualifying offer, then the minimum length of an offer sheet increases by one year, so that the earliest he can become an unrestricted free agent if he signs an offer is 2018.
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Watched a good amount of that Cavs Bulls series and was not impressed with Butler. He disappeared for long period of times to the point I didn't notice he was on the floor because it was both ends of the court. Maybe he had a bad series or with Rose dominating the ball so much it threw off his game since he played the better part of the season without Rose?

Either way I'd rather spend my money on a legit big that can play both ends of the court, also like K. Leonard better not that he will be any easier to get.

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Well Danny has to at least inquire about him. Hopefully the Marquette connection with Crowder gives him some incentive to come here. Butler would solve a HUGE issue for us on the wing, and it makes it even more likely that someone like Love or Aldridge would consider us.
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Going after Butler is a wasted effort unless sign and traded for.

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Someone should tell Woj that if the Bulls give Butler a maximum qualifying offer, then the minimum length of an offer sheet increases by one year, so that the earliest he can become an unrestricted free agent if he signs an offer is 2018.

Beat me to it.  He can turn down a max qualifying offer if he wants, but he can't leave Chicago any time soon.  I'm going with the theory that he wants a max deal including max raises, and this story is actually designed to pressure the Bulls into offering that, as opposed to something with 4.5% raises.

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Someone should tell Woj that if the Bulls give Butler a maximum qualifying offer, then the minimum length of an offer sheet increases by one year, so that the earliest he can become an unrestricted free agent if he signs an offer is 2018.

Beat me to it.  He can turn down a max qualifying offer if he wants, but he can't leave Chicago any time soon.  I'm going with the theory that he wants a max deal including max raises, and this story is actually designed to pressure the Bulls into offering that, as opposed to something with 4.5% raises.
A 3 year max contract would work well for Butler.  The contract would be up when he's 28 and has 7 years so then he'd be inline for 30% of a much larger cap. 

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Sounds like an opportunity to dangle one of those cheeky poison pill contracts like Houston gave Asik & Lin.
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How will this affect the Bulls?

They will want to draft Anderson as a starting point/insurance

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Sounds like an opportunity to dangle one of those cheeky poison pill contracts like Houston gave Asik & Lin.

That's not how those contracts work.  If the Bulls don't offer Butler the maximum qualifying offer, but just the regular, he will be offered a Chandler Parsons deal (2 years max, player option year 3).  If they do extend him a maximum qualifying offer, he will be offered what Gordon Hayward got (3 years max, 4th year player option).