KLove on the NBA Finals

[zubi.anaba]

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2015/story/_/id/13016786/2015-nba-finals-impending-free-agent-kevin-love-says-game-1-wants-return-win-cleveland-cavaliers

Klove thoughts on watching the Finals

I had so much fun watching it because I want to be in a moment like that," Love told ESPN after the Cleveland Cavaliers' 108-100 overtime loss to the Golden State Warriors. "I'd rather be out there helping those guys, and I saw a lot of places where I could help.

"I've never wanted to be in a game more than that one,"

Asked specifically if that meant he wanted to be back in Cleveland next season, Love said,

"Yes. I want to win."

Asked why that speculation remains, Love said,

"It's just the way the world works now. People talk so much and might tell themselves a lie so much they start to believe it. From there, the narrative starts to change. I haven't changed my narrative. I'm going to keep supporting these guys, and we'll be talking to Cleveland after the season."

But hey I am have been burying my head in the sand all year. Definitely sounds like a guy who is dying to get out of the Cleveland according to "reports"!!

[Rida]

I'm not sure what your are implying.

You might want to check the grammar in your last paragraph, in order be clear on your point.

He's never said "I want to be in Cleveland and I see myself here for the long term" or  "I hope to re-sign here"

All of his answers about that have come when prodded or asked if he sees himself re-signing.

Last week he responded "yes sir" when asked if he wants to re-sign in Cleveland, he didn't bring it up on his own.

The media headlines then flashed "Love wants to remain in Cleveland" again this response came  after being prompted to answer by a reporter.

That's hardly a ringing endorsement in my eyes, or confirmation that he's staying, what is he supposed to say?

The latest quote is "yes, I want to win"  again after being prompted by a reporter, that's hardly him coming out and saying "I want to be in Cleveland" either

Can you imagine the media storm and fall out for a team in the NBA finals of Love doesn't give these types of answers?

I just watched game 1 and never saw so many ISO's involving Lebron in my whole life. If you think for a second that Love wants to be a decoy standing in the corner on this team? I don't see that either.

Add to the fact that Tristan Thompson has been a revelation starting for Love and the team has played better and found its groove post the  love injury then I don't think it's a lock that he re-signs

Thompson is a free agent this summer and is going to get paid in Cleveland by virtue of having the same agent as Lebron, and his ability to pick up offensive rebounds while Lebron gets so much attention on those iso's was a key reason why Cleveland was able to hang in against GSW.

My last pertinent point is this, even with a healthy love Cleveland still needs Kyrie to be injury free to beat a western team in the finals, Irving has proven that he isn't durable and can't stay healthy, would Love sign for the long term knowing that their all star pg can't stay on the floor?

All points considered I still don't think it's likely that Love re-signs.

[zubi.anaba]

I'm not sure what your are implying.

You might want to check the grammar in your last paragraph, in order be clear on your point.

He's never said "I want to be in Cleveland and I see myself here for the long term" or  "I hope to re-sign here"

All of his answers about that have come when prodded or asked if he sees himself re-signing.

Last week he responded "yes sir" when asked if he wants to re-sign in Cleveland, he didn't bring it up on his own.

The media headlines then flashed "Love wants to remain in Cleveland" again this response came  after being prompted to answer by a reporter.

That's hardly a ringing endorsement in my eyes, or confirmation that he's staying, what is he supposed to say?

The latest quote is "I want to win" that's hardly saying "I want to be in Cleveland" either.

I have been told I have been burying my head in the sand but man this takes the cake. Being asked a direct question about his commitment to the Cavs and giving the exact same answer all year round. While guys like LMA and Gasol have yet to definitively commit to their current teams. Oh well his answers are pretty self explanatory like they been all year. Cant say more than that

I just watched game 1 and never saw so many ISO's involving Lebron in my whole life. If you think for a second that Love wants to be a decoy standing in the corner on this team? I don't see that either.

Any chances Cavs have to rely on Iso because ummm "They have a big part of their normal offense in street clothes (Klove) or hobbled (Kyrie)"! No doubt Warriors offense would be so free flowing with Klay thompsom hobbled and Green missin the PO all together

Add to the fact that Tristan Thompson has been a revelation starting for Love and the team has played better and found its groove post the  love injury then I don't think it's a lock that he re-signs

Thompson and Love have played together all season in crunch time. They complement each other pretty well to. Not sure what your point is here

Thompson is going to get paid in Cleveland by virtue of having the same agent as Lebron, and his ability to pick up offensive rebounds while Lebron gets so much attention on those iso's was a key reason why Cleveland was able to hang in against GSW.

Yeah Thompson is gonna get paid, what does that have to with LOve?? ???Cavs could not score with the warriors regardless of how good they are at rebounding or defense. They needed much more fire power than just having Lebron Iso and Thompson get rebounds. That fire power is in street clothes. With KLove in the opposing big is drawn out of the paint increasing chances of TT rebounds aswell Lebron/Kyrie getting to the rim

My last pertinent point is this, even with a healthy love Cleveland still needs Kyrie to be injury free to beat a western team in the finals, Irving has proven that he isn't durable and can't stay healthy, would Love sign for the long term knowing that their all star pg can't stay on the floor?

Hey they still made the finals with Kyrie hobbled. I am sure he will take his chances with a 23yo being healthy for upcoming PO runs rather than go back to missing PO or having 1st round exits at best

[LGC88]

His comments might also imply the fact that he doesn't mind staying in the corner for another season to win a title and hit the market as an FA with a better contract at the end of 2016.

[zubi.anaba]

His comments might also imply the fact that he doesn't mind staying in the corner for another season to win a title and hit the market as an FA with a better contract at the end of 2016.

Why would he think of doing this? According to "reports" he hates Cavs and cant wait to leave, Lebron is frustrated with him, Lebron prefers TT, Love is feuding with Blatt about his role, Klove wants his stats and doesnt care about winning

[SHAQATTACK]

If he watched the game

What he saw was a two man ball hog ISO game played against TEN opponents .

Either it was Irving with ball or LeBron like 90 % of the time .    Other players were used as double team outlets . 


Why would he think that he would have been a factor .......I don't ........LeBron knows everytime HE isn't in control or shooting the chances of a score go down.

LeBron and Irving play too many minutes .......their is no chance for the other players to ,,or enough touches to get a rhythm .

Any contribution from other Cavs was incidental for the most part .

Yes ......Cavs may win ....they may win next year ........but LBron dominates the playing time and ball to,an absurd level. 

Just shows Love  IMO .....he needs to he the HECK out of Dodge ASAP

[Vermont Green]

I don't think you can conclude anything from these comments or put another way, you can read almost anything into them that you want.  I think the following is the key statement:

and we'll be talking to Cleveland after the season.

Right now he is focusing on supporting his team.  That is the right thing to do.  After the season, he will talk to Cleveland probably about money, his role, everything.  If it is true that LeBron really doesn't like him or whatever that narrative is, those discussions will probably not go well and he will opt out (or not opt in) and look elsewhere.  If Cleveland and in particular LeBron do want him back, they will probably work it out, at least for one more season if not more.

Anyone who claims to "know" this or be sure about that, be it blogger or sportswriter, is just fooling themselves.  I doubt very much that either side has made up their mind on this.

[BitterJim]

When/if Love picks up his option for next year, we'll know whether he plans to stay or not.

Until then, EVERYTHING is just speculation (whether you think he's gonna stay or go)

[chambers]

'We'll be talking to Cleveland after the finals'.

He'll be talking to other teams too after the finals.

'I want to win' is exactly what he said when he was in Minnesota.

Don't read into any of this.

[Who]

The problem I have with K-Love leaving Cleveland is that none of the teams coming after him in free agency will offer him a chance to win. If someone did, I think the chances of him leaving would be much higher. I just struggle to see him leaving Cleveland to go back to a situation like he was in with Minnesota.

[zubi.anaba]

'We'll be talking to Cleveland after the finals'.

He'll be talking to other teams too after the finals.

'I want to win' is exactly what he said when he was in Minnesota.

Don't read into any of this.

SO nice of you to take all his quotes out of context eh? All those definitive quotes about remaining in Cavs all mean nothin I guess. Despite the fact he has said them all yr and never changed his tune. 3rd party reports and speculation is way more credible

[zubi.anaba]

If he watched the game

What he saw was a two man ball hog ISO game played against TEN opponents .

Either it was Irving with ball or LeBron like 90 % of the time .    Other players were used as double team outlets . 


Why would he think that he would have been a factor .......I don't ........LeBron knows everytime HE isn't in control or shooting the chances of a score go down.

LeBron and Irving play too many minutes .......their is no chance for the other players to ,,or enough touches to get a rhythm .

Any contribution from other Cavs was incidental for the most part .

Yes ......Cavs may win ....they may win next year ........but LBron dominates the playing time and ball to,an absurd level. 

Just shows Love  IMO .....he needs to he the HECK out of Dodge ASAP

So I guess the new narrative now is that even with Love on the floor and Kyrie healthy, Lebron will continue to ignore them and jack up almost 40 shots a game huh

[chambers]

'We'll be talking to Cleveland after the finals'.

He'll be talking to other teams too after the finals.

'I want to win' is exactly what he said when he was in Minnesota.

Don't read into any of this.

SO nice of you to take all his quotes out of context eh? All those definitive quotes about remaining in Cavs all mean nothin I guess. Despite the fact he has said them all yr and never changed his tune. 3rd party reports and speculation is way more credible

Out of context?  I could accuse you of doing the same thing.
See the difference between our interpretations of this upcoming Love offseason saga is that you are 100% certain he's staying.
I am not 100% certain he's staying and believe that he'd give the exact same answers he's given.  I believe there's a very solid possibility he'll stay in Cleveland, but I wouldn't read into his comments around the NBA finals timeframe as 100% truth.
Given that his team is in the finals I don't see him giving any answers other than 'this is where I fully expect to be next season'.

My major concern for Cleveland is that it depends if he wants to be Lebron's paper boy for the rest of his career, averaging 16 points and 10 rebounds so Lebron can get 5 or 6 rings, or if he wants a team of his own, scoring 26 ppg and 12.5 rebounds a game (as he did in Minny) while challenging Lebron for NBA titles.

It's a pretty logical query.

[MBunge]

All those definitive quotes about remaining in Cavs all mean nothin I guess.

You destroy your own argument when you demonstrate that you don't know what "definitive" means.

These would be "definitive" statements from Kevin Love.

"I will opt in for next year in Cleveland."

"I will sign a long term contract to stay in Cleveland."

"There's 0% chance I'm playing anywhere else next year."

"The only uniform I wear next season will be a Cavs jersey."

I don't believe Love has EVER said any of the above.  The closest he's come, I think, is talking about being "committed" to Cleveland but that's far from definitive.

Mike

[celticsclay]

His comments might also imply the fact that he doesn't mind staying in the corner for another season to win a title and hit the market as an FA with a better contract at the end of 2016.

Why would he think of doing this? According to "reports" he hates Cavs and cant wait to leave, Lebron is frustrated with him, Lebron prefers TT, Love is feuding with Blatt about his role, Klove wants his stats and doesnt care about winning

It is another thread on K Love, more comments from ol Friend Zubi banging the Love stays in Cleveland drum. Best I could tell, you didn't give me any sort of real answer to what i asked in the other thread. So I will ask again.

You have probably made at least 40-50 posts related to Kevin Love saying over and over and over again that he stays in Cleveland. It is not like you are a highly prolific poster that has 40-50 posts on every single topic, this is the majority, if not all, of your posts. You have said you are not a celtics or a cleveland fan, but have decided to set up camp and say the same thing over and over again on a celtics board about a player most likely to never play here. Why? What's the point.

The half explanation you gave is that you saw a lot of lack of logic on this topic and felt compelled to chime in to stop it. However, there is a lack of logic on just about every thread on every forum on the web, so that doesn't explain your fascination or investment in this. So what is really the deal? You don't owe me an explanation and can post whatever you want, it just very very strange to see and I am genuinely fascinated with what you are trying to accomplish. I feel like I have stumbled into some sort of social experiment.