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Re: Any chance they bring Rondo back?
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2015, 10:57:27 AM »

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I really really hope he doesn't go to LA. I'm a celtics fan first but I'll always root for Rondo too. Don't make me root for the Lakers in the west!

Re: Any chance they bring Rondo back?
« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2015, 10:58:15 AM »

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Rondo will end up in China imo.  Get a big contract from one of the Chinese team. He can also promote his clothing, shoes better

Lakers have Clarkson and seem high on him.  Much cheaper than Rondo also

Re: Any chance they bring Rondo back?
« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2015, 10:59:33 AM »

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A few points:

1. The Rondo hate is pretty nuts. He won us a lot of games. A simple, "I don't think he will come back" I can understand but some of these comments make me a little sad as a fan.

2. WAs he hurt this year in Dallas? I would like to know the full story of why he wasn't playing at the end.

3. Its all about money. I think if Ainge had said, "**** it, i'll just give him the max" he would still be here. Ainge was right not to. But if someone gets him for under 10 mil a year and he bounces back he will be on a good deal. I just have this bad feeling that next year or the year after he could again be a top pg and on a really friendly deal somewhere.

4. Its hard to say that our improvement after RR left was due to rondo sucking. I mean, we wee sucking as a team and when Rondo was traded it was kind of a rallying call for the rest of the team to step up. It reminds me of when Pitino left and we played better. Although I guess I'm making the opposite of the point I want because I really like Rondo and really don't like Pitino.

5. A lot of things would have to happen to make a Rondo return make sense. But I do hope Ainge reaches out to him. Even though he hasn't played amazing lately I still think he has a super competitive mentality and he's not someone I would ever bet against. He was getting like 13 dimes a game for us. Say what ever you want but almost no one else could do that.
on your first point, as i read this thread i dont see a unified, monolithic "hate" being leveled at rondo. i see lots of viewpoints, including appreciation for what he DID before as a celtic. let's not set up a strawfigure.

next point, maybe you could check back on the not playing in dallas stories on the web. it is complex story and no one here would know the full story. but from what i read, carlisle and rondo did not see eye to eye (quite the understatement.) rondo wants to run a team his way, which i can understand. but carlisle also wants to run a team, and do it his way as the coach. in this setting, rondo loses. rondo competed against his coach, and he lost since he is not a superstar.

plus, let's face it, rondo's stats and dallas' w/l record were not as good as before rondo's arrival. something was happening that was not good in the world of dallas basketball.

injury? i see no reason to doubt that was a factor. have you heard anything else on this? if so, please share it.

third point, you mention rondo might become a top pg next year. maybe. but NOT on any and all teams. a point made in this thread, and it is a good point, is that rondo's strengths and style do NOT PLAY OUT EQUALLY WELL ON ALL NBA TEAMS. rondo MUST have the ball in his hand to do well since he cant shoot reliably. such a player will not fit equally well on every nba team. simple enough.

for the CBS run celtics, rondo's style is NOT what is needed or appropriate. so i hope rondo bounces back. but it will have to be with a team whose offense and plays are not like those of the celtics. meaning, rondo cant bounce back with the celtics. this is the wrong place for his talents now. he was a good fit before with doc and the big 3, but a bad fit now.

point four, right. no one can prove the departure of rondo = more celtics wins. we can only make the observation that the celtics won more games after he left. to be honest, i thought the celtics passed the ball as a team far better without rondo. did this lead to wins? dont know. would the celtics have won more games if rondo had stayed? dont know that either. but we can all guess.

point five, here i disagree with you, though i acknowledge your point and intentions. rondo is not a good fit for this celtics team. ainge should not reach out to him. ainge should thank him and move on to build a different sort of team.

finally point, or question to you, by me. given that rondo plays one sort of basketball game as a ball dominant pg who doesnt shoot well, which teams today in the nba do you think would benefit from having him on board? those are the teams rondo should seek out to revive his career, which is honestly suffering right now.


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Re: Any chance they bring Rondo back?
« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2015, 11:06:23 AM »

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Bringing Rondo back would be like implanting a tumor after a successful recovery from cancer.

Sadly true. I doubt anyone in the organization wants him back.

Yeah, I agree and it is really sad.

I guess we'll probably have to wait till everyone retire and writes their memoirs to find out what really happened with Rondo in Boston at the end. I remember hearing Ainge on the radio and he was asked about Rondo. I had assumed that Rondo had said he would not resign and thats why he was traded. But Ainge said that wasn't true. He said they just felt they wouldn't be able to resign him or felt he would move on and made the move. So yeah, probably he didnt want to be here and was causing some problems. Lots of people say this on message boards but I have never heard Ainge or anyone with the team really say it.

My hunch? Rondo bullyed the younger players into helping his chase the assist title. I could see Rondo thinking that his assist numbers and tripple doubles would get him a max and told everyone to shoot every time I pass you the ball if you can. Just a gut feeling and not something I can prove becuse no one has come out and said this. But even if it is true, I'm not sure I dissagree. I mean I played ball a lot and I know that if I have a good point guard I'll always get the ball in my sweet spot and the pass will always be with the laces lined up so I have a slightly better shot at making it. I don't dissagree with having a total pass first point guard. So its really hard to know the real deal with Rondo. 

Re: Any chance they bring Rondo back?
« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2015, 11:12:31 AM »

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A few points:

1. The Rondo hate is pretty nuts. He won us a lot of games. A simple, "I don't think he will come back" I can understand but some of these comments make me a little sad as a fan.


There were times I truly loved watching Rondo.  He was the best or second best player for the majority of the 2010 and 2012 playoff runs.

That Rondo doesn't exist anymore, and the last two or three years he was here were miserable.  He was a drag, on the court and off the court.  It also just got really tiring talking about him all the time because he was so polarizing.

Accordingly, I say, let's please just keep the memories and let him play out the rest of his career -- whatever is left of it -- elsewhere.
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Re: Any chance they bring Rondo back?
« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2015, 11:25:35 AM »

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Any chance they bring Rondo back?

I hope not.
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Re: Any chance they bring Rondo back?
« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2015, 11:41:46 AM »

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If you asked "Any chance they bring Toine back?" in 2004, you'd probably get a similar answer to the ones you're seeing in this thread.
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Re: Any chance they bring Rondo back?
« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2015, 11:50:25 AM »

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Re: Any chance they bring Rondo back?
« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2015, 11:59:25 AM »

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Why doesn't this topic surprise me?

How long have you been here?  That'd be why.
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Re: Any chance they bring Rondo back?
« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2015, 12:15:20 PM »

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For those who want to bring Rondo back to the C's I highly recommend that you read about how Rondo behaved and performed with the Mavericks this year.  I dont have time to locate the articles but there are some troubling articles out there that are not sensationalist but seem reasonable.

I wanted nothing more than for Rondo to succeed with the Mavs.  We dont know the full story, but  it seems Rondo has become a very toxic player to the point where personally unaddressed character flaws are self-destructing his career and ruining his professional relationships.

I dont want that anywhere near my young Cs.  Especially when he is now one of the worst players at his position.  Mediocre at best.


Re: Any chance they bring Rondo back?
« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2015, 12:26:11 PM »

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Dare we say the modern game has passed him by?  Right now if your guards can't shoot the 3, it's a liability.

Re: Any chance they bring Rondo back?
« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2015, 01:39:19 PM »

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Wow, I would be absolutely shock if the Celtics brought him back.  We are rebuilding now.  Even if I thought that he could be a productive PG, I can't construct a scenario where it would make sense.

Rondo has always been a polarizing figure for a bunch of reasons but he really needs make some adjustments if he wants to get another good job in the NBA.  There is not going to be a "system" that fits Rondo.  Rondo needs to realize that.  If he doesn't, he is going to continue to have a hard time.

Rondo is so skilled and so flawed all at the same time.  I don't think the rest of the NBA fandom was aware of his flaws prior to the Dallas blow up.  Now it has swung the other way and all anyone talks about is the flaws, forgetting about the skills.  One extreme or the other.  That is the pattern Rondo is stuck in.  Not sure how he breaks out of it.

Re: Any chance they bring Rondo back?
« Reply #42 on: June 05, 2015, 01:40:47 PM »

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Sorry if this is off-topic, but is there a team you guys think should take a chance on Rondo?
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Re: Any chance they bring Rondo back?
« Reply #43 on: June 05, 2015, 01:47:33 PM »

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I like rondo but no thanks

Re: Any chance they bring Rondo back?
« Reply #44 on: June 05, 2015, 01:48:50 PM »

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Sorry if this is off-topic, but is there a team you guys think should take a chance on Rondo?

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