2015 NBA Draft Thread

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I like the pick.
Rozier is an insane athlete with a super high ceiling on the offensive end, whilst also being a great defender.

Danny realizes he needs to swing big by skipping these role player types like Portis, Dekker etc...just sucks he couldn't get Winslow.

This guy wont help us win games next year and we'll stink...without Bass and an Evan Turner trade, we should pick top 8 next year.

Whatever helps you sleep at nite .  It's a horrid pick.  Period.

Who would you have taken at that position?
I like the balls it took to take this guy. Have you seen Rozier play?

He's swinging for the fences with pick#16
You may not agree with my top 8 pick in 2016 sentiment, but you don't know what you're talking about to call Terry Rozier a 'horrid pick' with #16. It's a great pick. High risk, very high reward.

Think of a point guard version of Monta Ellis (slightly smaller, but stronger and even more athletic), but who plays NBA caliber defense and plays hard on every play.

But we could have had him at #28. He's a borderline second rounder.

You want a high risk high reward player? Were probe my better off taking Upshaw at #16. At least he fills a need. Rozier is coming in on a log jam. If we do trade any of our guards, he has to be really impressive to take time away from Smart, Bradley and Thomas. If you think he can be much more special than those three, then please convince us why, because he's not getting time on the court with those three in the court, which makes this pick a total waste.

hes a combo guard with incredible hops and an enormous wingspan (like 6'8" wingspan?)
do you really think we are keeping all those guards?
is avery bradley the long term answer for us?

id say he wasnt available at 28 either.
nbadraft.net had him as the 4th best pg in the draft....
im saying its not a horrible pick as many of the impulsive reactions here are making it out to be...

http://www.nbadraft.net/ranking/positional

Two guys taller than him and with a better critique are on that list.  Your not helping your case

Agreed.

Also, if Danny really wants him, he could have just moved down and got atleast a second rounder or some cash in the early 20's. He'd still be available by then.

[slamtheking]

Would love to get RJ Hunter at 28..but expect it to be Mickey or a Euro

Hunter, Looney or even Wood.  no Mickey.  I just don't want to listen to Triboy.  probably have to change his pants if Danny picks him

[blink]

Must be some VERY advanced analytics on him. Also when you have so many picks like we do guess it doesn't matter where you draft whom.

Apparently he blew away the competition in workouts. C's brass said he was better at escaping the trap in a 2-on-1 drill, and also defending the PG bringing up the ball.

The only stat I am seeing is 41% shooting and 30% from 3 averaging 35 min a game in college.
Those are some seriously bad #s.  Literally it is a mini-Smart, just a bit smaller and faster.  Not a point guard, and not a shooter.  It just seems like a huge stretch.  We need more size with our guards, and we need guards who can shoot.  I am at a loss for how this helps us.

If you liked this guy as BPA, trade back for him, or if he is going get snagged up at 26 or 27 shouldn't we be really thinking about why we are drafting him at 16?  I like DA but this is head scratching material.  I hope I am wrong.

Trade back for what though? We already have enough picks later in the draft.

trade back for ANYTHING, literally any asset of value haha....

[JHTruth]

saw this tweet...

Grousbeck on 16th pick: "We've targeted Rozier. He worked out for us twice. He's an athletic freak, a skilled two-way player." #CelticsDraft
8:29 PM - 25 Jun 2015

well, no one at 16 was a star anyway, so ainge went with bpa. the kid is athletic and plays like a bull dog. putting smart and rozier together might be fun to watch.

but i do no see how AB can stay on this team. they must be planning to peddle him someplace.

Pick is terrible. Indefensible.

But frankly I stopped caring after the Pacers picked Turner because I knew we utterly failed at that point. If we don't do something in FA, then I won't watch next year..

[slamtheking]

I like the pick.
Rozier is an insane athlete with a super high ceiling on the offensive end, whilst also being a great defender.

Danny realizes he needs to swing big by skipping these role player types like Portis, Dekker etc...just sucks he couldn't get Winslow.

This guy wont help us win games next year and we'll stink...without Bass and an Evan Turner trade, we should pick top 8 next year.

Whatever helps you sleep at nite .  It's a horrid pick.  Period.

Who would you have taken at that position?
I like the balls it took to take this guy. Have you seen Rozier play?

He's swinging for the fences with pick#16
You may not agree with my top 8 pick in 2016 sentiment, but you don't know what you're talking about to call Terry Rozier a 'horrid pick' with #16. It's a great pick. High risk, very high reward.

Think of a point guard version of Monta Ellis (slightly smaller, but stronger and even more athletic), but who plays NBA caliber defense and plays hard on every play.

But we could have had him at #28. He's a borderline second rounder.

You want a high risk high reward player? Were probe my better off taking Upshaw at #16. At least he fills a need. Rozier is coming in on a log jam. If we do trade any of our guards, he has to be really impressive to take time away from Smart, Bradley and Thomas. If you think he can be much more special than those three, then please convince us why, because he's not getting time on the court with those three in the court, which makes this pick a total waste.

hes a combo guard with incredible hops and an enormous wingspan (like 6'8" wingspan?)
do you really think we are keeping all those guards?
is avery bradley the long term answer for us?

id say he wasnt available at 28 either.
nbadraft.net had him as the 4th best pg in the draft....
im saying its not a horrible pick as many of the impulsive reactions here are making it out to be...

http://www.nbadraft.net/ranking/positional

Two guys taller than him and with a better critique are on that list.  Your not helping your case

Agreed.

Also, if Danny really wants him, he could have just moved down and got atleast a second rounder or some cash in the early 20's. He'd still be available by then.

agreed

[dreamgreen]

I'm not sure what numbers are worse for this kid that doesn't fit on the roster:
FG%; 41
3 pt%: 30
Assists per game: 3

This is a great PG?

[crimson_stallion]

I'd be happy enough with R.J. Hunter,  Kevon Looney or Montrezl Harrell at #28

There really isn't that much talent around, and all of these guys look like they could be useful NBA players.

Hunter in particular fills a major need for us with his shooting, and looks to have decent potential as a defender too (wingspan, reasonable athleticism). 

[hwangjini_1]

I like the pick.
Rozier is an insane athlete with a super high ceiling on the offensive end, whilst also being a great defender.

Danny realizes he needs to swing big by skipping these role player types like Portis, Dekker etc...just sucks he couldn't get Winslow.

This guy wont help us win games next year and we'll stink...without Bass and an Evan Turner trade, we should pick top 8 next year.

Whatever helps you sleep at nite .  It's a horrid pick.  Period.

Who would you have taken at that position?
I like the balls it took to take this guy. Have you seen Rozier play?

He's swinging for the fences with pick#16
You may not agree with my top 8 pick in 2016 sentiment, but you don't know what you're talking about to call Terry Rozier a 'horrid pick' with #16. It's a great pick. High risk, very high reward.

Think of a point guard version of Monta Ellis (slightly smaller, but stronger and even more athletic), but who plays NBA caliber defense and plays hard on every play.

But we could have had him at #28. He's a borderline second rounder.

You want a high risk high reward player? Were probe my better off taking Upshaw at #16. At least he fills a need. Rozier is coming in on a log jam. If we do trade any of our guards, he has to be really impressive to take time away from Smart, Bradley and Thomas. If you think he can be much more special than those three, then please convince us why, because he's not getting time on the court with those three in the court, which makes this pick a total waste.

hes a combo guard with incredible hops and an enormous wingspan (like 6'8" wingspan?)
do you really think we are keeping all those guards?
is avery bradley the long term answer for us?

id say he wasnt available at 28 either.
nbadraft.net had him as the 4th best pg in the draft....
im saying its not a horrible pick as many of the impulsive reactions here are making it out to be...

http://www.nbadraft.net/ranking/positional

I'm with you on this one, Chambers. I'll guarantee that at least half of the people whining about this pick have never seen this Rozier kid play. He gets all of his own offense, plays great d, is athletic and doesn't turn the ball over. He's nothing like E'twaun Moore or Phil Pressey.

The summer isn't over. No need to panic.

i read that chicago wanted rozier at #22. so ainge took him at 16. he seems better than i thought.

this is a swing for the fences pick for sure. ha, ha...now let's see how many threads call for ainge's firing. 

[Tr1boy]

I just want the Celts to take a big man next.   

Spurs take RJ Hunter.  Lakers I think take Richuan Holmes

[slamtheking]

interesting deal for Cleveland to get those 2 high seconds.  gives them a chance to pick up two possible bench guys for next year including a possible flyer on Upshaw

[Real World]

28 is fast approaching.  I'm one of the Robert Upshaw fans.  Do you take him at 28, or is the 1st too big a gamble with his problems?  Will he be there at 35?

If not Hunter is intriquing.  As are the two top Euro big men who's names I won't try to type.  The M & G guys.

Nevermind. There goes the M guy, Mutinov to the Spurs. 

[Eja117]

We need someone with tremendous upside potential at this point.

[Tr1boy]

28 is fast approaching.  I'm one of the Robert Upshaw fans.  Do you take him at 28, or is the 1st too big a gamble with his problems?  Will he be there at 35?

If not Hunter is intriquing.  As are the two top Euro big men who's names I won't try to type.  The M & P guys.

he will go undrafted

[hwangjini_1]

I'd be happy enough with R.J. Hunter,  Kevon Looney or Montrezl Harrell at #28

There really isn't that much talent around, and all of these guys look like they could be useful NBA players.

Hunter in particular fills a major need for us with his shooting, and looks to have decent potential as a defender too (wingspan, reasonable athleticism).

true on the lack of talent in the 20s. ainge does better than most GMs in that range. if he gets a player at 28 who even plays in the nba, its a success.

[slamtheking]

well, 4 guards now, not counting Pressey.  as much as Hunter's shooting would seem like a good addition, I'm wondering if even if he's BPA at that point, should we go big instead.