Marc Stein on C's (Cousins, Love, etc.)

[JohnBoy65]

Holy cow, could you imagine this lineup?

Smart
Bradley
Crowder
KO
DMC

Of course if we get Cousins i am not sure how we would keep all those players, but with the exception of KO that's a nasty nasty defensive force.

[LarBrd33]

If I am Sacramento, I'm asking for Smart, Young, both Brooklyn picks, both Sullinger and Olynyk (while expecting to get only one), plus more picks.

I'm not sure what the Kings would be willing to settle for, but they are almost certain to insist upon the young player with the most star potential (Smart) and the pick with the most lottery potential (one of the Brooklyn picks?) as part of the deal.

Yeah. That's why I keep saying smart is the most likely to be traded if we land a star.  He'll be the hardest to part with, but he will also be the first thing any team asks for.  He's like a B minus asset in a sea of C's and D's.

[KeepRondo]

I know it's hard to hold players out of a trade for Cousins, but if I could save someone besides Smart, it'd be Olynyk.  Olynyk would be a perfect fit next to Cousins.  He'd pass to him and space the floor for him and benefit if Cousins is doubled.

I'm willing to give up a lot of these firsts.  We already have young players and we are doing well with the cap.  I'd hope we could get away with giving them Sullinger, Young, and Zeller or something plus picks.

Nobody on this team is talented enough to be a dealbreaker in a trade for a star.  That includes Marcus smart.  I like smart and hope he can develop into a rich man's tony Allen, but I can't imagine any team sending Boston a star without getting Marcus smart in the package... And I can't imagine Ainge blowing a chance on an allstar by refusing to deal smart.    Marcus is our Al Jefferson this year. Clearly our most valuable asset.  Sadly the one most likely to be moved.

You might be right, but that doesn't mean we should gut the entire team over one player. I'd much rather hold onto Smart, IT4, and Sully with our Nets picks then cash them all in. If you told me we only had to group three of them, the three players I named and the three picks, then I would consider it.

[JohnBoy65]

Everyone says we need to part with Smart, but who says the kings want smart? They've got Collison, Miller, and McCallum

By the way McCallum is their 3rd PG in their depth chart. Here's his stats

McCallum: PPG: 7.4   APG: 2.8   RPG: 2.6   PER: 12.54

Smart: PPG: 7.8 APG: 3.1   RPG: 3.3   PER: 11.02

Not all that different. What would they do with Smart if they wanted him?

[LooseCannon]

Everyone says we need to part with Smart, but who says the kings want smart? They've got Collison, Miller, and McCallum

Because you ask for the best pieces, regardless of fit, because you want to maximize value.  You ask for Smart, even if that means turning around and flipping him to a third team.

[Evantime34]

Isaiah THomas and DeMarcus Cousins tweeting back and fourth, probably just to troll all the C's fans that want Boogie in Boston.

[jpotter33]

Everyone says we need to part with Smart, but who says the kings want smart? They've got Collison, Miller, and McCallum

By the way McCallum is their 3rd PG in their depth chart. Here's his stats

McCallum: PPG: 7.4   APG: 2.8   RPG: 2.6   PER: 12.54

Smart: PPG: 7.8 APG: 3.1   RPG: 3.3   PER: 11.02

Not all that different. What would they do with Smart if they wanted him?

If they want Smart it's for his ceiling not for his current abilities. He has a multiple-time All-Star and DPOY ceiling (whether or not he actually reaches it). Can you say that about any of their other point guards?

[jpotter33]

Isaiah THomas and DeMarcus Cousins tweeting back and fourth, probably just to troll all the C's fans that want Boogie in Boston.

Haha what are they saying? I can't find what you're talking about.

[colincb]

Way too much I agree. Let's face it Ray Allen was traded to Boston for 1 1st round pick and some players. Granted it was the #5 pick, and granted DMC is better than Ray Allen, but he's not worth 5 more 1st round picks!

Ray Allen was also injured and had some injury plagued seasons... that can't be discounted.

However, Allen was known as a conditioning freak and more importantly that Seattle was looking to move him. 

If SAC is forced to move Cousins, they're not getting equivalent value and no real GM's giving them 7 equivalent first rounders and 3 young players still on rookie deals who were first rounders and who haven't reached their potential (I concede that Young may
be a bust.)

Danny's very much an opportunist and a value investor. If a potential trade partner is under duress to make a trade, Danny's going to have the leverage and win the trade. If a third party enters the bidding, Danny will set a limit beyond which he'll walk away from the table. I think experience and, I suspect, watching how the Patriots operate helped him grow.

There is some deal Danny can pull together that should be right for the value of Cousins and I do think SAC would angle for Smart as he looks as if he will be a very good player.  If so, he goes and the accompanying draft picks are reduced accordingly.  You can always get backcourt players elsewhere.

After Danny got some GM experience under his belt, I've seen very little that he's done wrong other than guessing at players in the crapshoot draft. In Danny I trust not to do stupid deals.

[Evantime34]

Isaiah THomas and DeMarcus Cousins tweeting back and fourth, probably just to troll all the C's fans that want Boogie in Boston.

Haha what are they saying? I can't find what you're talking about.

Isaiah ThomasVerified account
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@boogiecousins appreciate the signed jersey you sent me family...

DeMarcus Cousins ?@boogiecousins  1h1 hour ago
@Isaiah_Thomas fasho

Nothing really deep, but that isn't going to stop me from pretending they are BFFs and IT is going to bring Boogie here haha.

[jpotter33]

Isaiah THomas and DeMarcus Cousins tweeting back and fourth, probably just to troll all the C's fans that want Boogie in Boston.

Haha what are they saying? I can't find what you're talking about.

Isaiah ThomasVerified account
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@boogiecousins appreciate the signed jersey you sent me family...

DeMarcus Cousins ?@boogiecousins  1h1 hour ago
@Isaiah_Thomas fasho

Nothing really deep, but that isn't going to stop me from pretending they are BFFs and IT is going to bring Boogie here haha.

Haha TP. I finally found it and Sully had some part in the conversation too apparently.

[SparzWizard]

Isaiah THomas and DeMarcus Cousins tweeting back and fourth, probably just to troll all the C's fans that want Boogie in Boston.

Haha what are they saying? I can't find what you're talking about.

Isaiah ThomasVerified account
?@Isaiah_Thomas
@boogiecousins appreciate the signed jersey you sent me family...

DeMarcus Cousins ?@boogiecousins  1h1 hour ago
@Isaiah_Thomas fasho

Nothing really deep, but that isn't going to stop me from pretending they are BFFs and IT is going to bring Boogie here haha.

So this silences all the group of individuals who think these two hate each other during their time in Sac-town. Ah, okay I see 

[Tr1boy]

Celtics would have to include Smart, Sully a crap load of 1sts  for Cousins. Then we turn into the Sacramento Kings that cant get anywhere

[WeMadeIt17]

Please please please. Would be so great to pick up Cousins.

[BDeCosta26]

A single top 5 is definitely more valuable than #16, #28, Brooklyn's 2016 (prob 12-18).

Top 5 picks offer a reasonable chance at the next star of the league.  Those late 1sts more often than not result in players who never make it in the league.  Top 5 pick would be far more valuable.  That puts teams like LA, NY and Philly ahead of us in any trade race.   

Trading for a star is unlikely. Marcus smart, Sully, 16, 28, nets 2016 is prob an intriguing package though.

It all depends on the draft class. In last years draft class, you had three guys with top player potential. Would you trade Cousins for one chance to land the next Anthony Bennett, Oladipo or Noel? And get nothing else in return? A top 5 pick isn't necessarily better than our war chest of picks. It's only better if the next LBJ/KD/Davis guy is in the top 3, which I'm not so sure there's one of those kinda guys this year.

The Knicks can't outbid us unless Cousins really wants to go there and forces his hand. Same thing with LA. They don't have enough assets. Philly? Maybe. But if you were a top 20 player why would you wanna go there? The magic? Maybe.

But if your Sacto, and your gonna be in the lottery after trading Cousins anyway, I'd want a few young guys on team control and a larger number of draft picks that are probably gonna be in the 8-20 range. Your getting your own high lottery picks too, getting all the picks from us gives you multiple chances at the next 2nd tier (Below KD, James, Davis types) star player.

If NY ends up with the 3rd or 4th pick, there's no guarantee another GM will find more value in that than 4 or 5 early-mid firsts, a few early seconds and a couple good young guys. Much more value in our package. What happens if you miss on that #4 pick? You get nothing for Cousins, that's what.