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Rondo not getting playoff share?
« on: April 29, 2015, 04:04:29 PM »

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According to reports, Rondo won't be getting any playoff money in Dallas:

http://www.sbnation.com/2015/4/29/8515411/rajon-rondo-playoff-share-fake-injury-mavericks-rockets-free-agency-2015

That seems sketchy considering he took the court for 2 games. Even if he was horrible on purpose, he still was out on the floor for playoff games. Do players get anything automatically for playoff games? Did he at least get a stipend on those days?

I think he doesn't deserve a cent based on undermining the team, but I feel like there needs to be due process before you don't compensate someone for showing up.

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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2015, 04:07:09 PM »

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You mean the back injury was just a smokescreen for everything?  :o


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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2015, 04:07:11 PM »

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Yup told ya he'll get the Lamar Odom/Derek Fisher treatment.

What will be ironic is when Rondo becomes a Laker, Mavericks will go full force on the hate.  ;D


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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2015, 04:12:29 PM »

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He was a total disaster there. 

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/237615/Report-Mavericks-Rajon-Rondo-Mutually-Decided-To-Part-Ways

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The Dallas Mavericks and Rajon Rondo made a mutual decision to part ways the day after Game 2.

Sources say the two sides framed the reasoning as a back injury as a favor to try to help Rondo save face.

Rondo was going to be replaced in the starting lineup for Game 3 regardless of the decision.

The Mavericks felt Rondo's behavior was impacting other players, particularly Monta Ellis.

He was going to get benched so they made up the injury excuse for him to save face.  Something similar happened when Rondo failed to make the Olympic team. 

He's a punk who lacks desirable skills for today's NBA. Zach Lowe pointed out on a Simmons podcast that for the past 3 years (with very different teams) we have evidence that the Celtics were worse with Rondo on the court.  Same thing happened in Dallas.   

I actually had a bit of sympathy for Rondo until Woj recently reported that Ainge traded Rondo after discovering he planned to sign with the Lakers in the summer.

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When Rondo realized his run with the Celtics was over this year, he planned to sign with the Los Angeles Lakers in the summer, league sources told Yahoo Sports. He expected a maximum contract. Once Dallas made the trade, he was open to re-signing with the Mavericks ? only there are no max contract offers for Rondo on the market. Not in Dallas, nor Los Angeles. He's played his way out of that payday

This is going to cost Rondo a lot of money, but I imagine he'll still end up in LA unless they have been scared off.   Fwiw, I still think he can get lots of assists if they build a system around him. 

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According to reports, Rondo won't be getting any playoff money in Dallas:

http://www.sbnation.com/2015/4/29/8515411/rajon-rondo-playoff-share-fake-injury-mavericks-rockets-free-agency-2015

That seems sketchy considering he took the court for 2 games. Even if he was horrible on purpose, he still was out on the floor for playoff games. Do players get anything automatically for playoff games? Did he at least get a stipend on those days?

I think he doesn't deserve a cent based on undermining the team, but I feel like there needs to be due process before you don't compensate someone for showing up.

From ESPN's coverage:

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The other 14 players on the roster evenly divided the pot of $208,940, which is awarded to teams that lose in the first round of the playoffs. Houston beat Dallas in five games in the best-of-seven series.

The players did not vote to exclude Rondo, the source said. They were simply presented with a list that did not include him, and there were no objections.
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/12787917/rajon-rondo-does-not-get-playoff-share-dallas-mavericks
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Mean-spirited move, if you ask me.

Regardless of what Rajon Rondo did (or not), he did suit up in 2 playoff games.

Instead of just cutting losses and moving on, DAL is choosing to make this a media farce.

It is better to pin their playoff showing on Rajon Rondo than face the fact that THIS Dirk and Tyson are 4 years older than the ones that took the floor in 2011. It is also a sad showing that another player I like a lot (Chandler Parsons) was not able to suit up as well.

So let's ignore all these things and pin the loss on Rajon Rondo - by choosing to not play him playoff shares?

You kidding me?

Mark Cuban said some disparaging things about other players who left, too. I love Cuban, but at the end of the day you separate your personal feelings from some issues like this. Just cut your losses and move on.

We ALL have to account for the things we do. You can't be mean-spirited like this as an organization.

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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2015, 04:45:02 PM »

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Mean-spirited move, if you ask me.

Regardless of what Rajon Rondo did (or not), he did suit up in 2 playoff games.

Instead of just cutting losses and moving on, DAL is choosing to make this a media farce.

It is better to pin their playoff showing on Rajon Rondo than face the fact that THIS Dirk and Tyson are 4 years older than the ones that took the floor in 2011. It is also a sad showing that another player I like a lot (Chandler Parsons) was not able to suit up as well.

So let's ignore all these things and pin the loss on Rajon Rondo - by choosing to not play him playoff shares?

You kidding me?

Mark Cuban said some disparaging things about other players who left, too. I love Cuban, but at the end of the day you separate your personal feelings from some issues like this. Just cut your losses and move on.

We ALL have to account for the things we do. You can't be mean-spirited like this as an organization.

Do you think Rondo is holding himself accountable for how things transpired this season? Particularly, the postseason?


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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2015, 04:56:35 PM »

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This sounds like a bigger story than it really is when you do the math based on the numbers in that ESPN story from D.o.s.

Worst case Rondo missed out on $13,929.33, if you divide their playoff share equally by 15 guys (though Rondo gets less if they divide by minutes or games played or something else). 

Rondo made $12,909,091 this year, so for comparison if you make $50k a year, that's like finding out your boss handed out $50 Starbucks gift cards after you quit half way through a project ($53.95 to be exact), or it's like missing out on $107.90 bonus if you make $100k per year.

I don't think too many of us regular folks would care if that happened to us.

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Mean-spirited move, if you ask me.

Regardless of what Rajon Rondo did (or not), he did suit up in 2 playoff games.

Instead of just cutting losses and moving on, DAL is choosing to make this a media farce.

It is better to pin their playoff showing on Rajon Rondo than face the fact that THIS Dirk and Tyson are 4 years older than the ones that took the floor in 2011. It is also a sad showing that another player I like a lot (Chandler Parsons) was not able to suit up as well.

So let's ignore all these things and pin the loss on Rajon Rondo - by choosing to not play him playoff shares?

You kidding me?

Mark Cuban said some disparaging things about other players who left, too. I love Cuban, but at the end of the day you separate your personal feelings from some issues like this. Just cut your losses and move on.

We ALL have to account for the things we do. You can't be mean-spirited like this as an organization.

Do you think Rondo is holding himself accountable for how things transpired this season? Particularly, the postseason?

I am sure he is. According to KG's comments about him, he is a reflective - yet hardheaded at times - person.

I am also certain that there are other things at play with him as well that we don't know about - as we discussed before, Don.

I can also hope that Rick Carlylse and other DAL players are holding themselves accountable, too.

As Celtics Fans, we always discuss TEAM play. Team Play is what Celtics Basketball is all about. Other teams attempt to focus on team, but not many carry through with Team Ball.

Team Ball also means that you WIN and LOSE as a team.

If DAL beat HOU, overcame the issue with Rondo and Coach Carlylse, ended up winning that series and moving on I doubt that this would've happened.

Sounds like someone in DAL is unhappy that Tyson couldn't keep Dwight off the boards and The Bearded One did as he pleased.

As fans, sadly - we never know ALL the story. Only what ESPN and other media outlets feed us.

It also doesn't help that Rajon Rondo failed miserably Media 101. We have ALL discussed this on CelticsBlog before.

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This sounds like a bigger story than it really is when you do the math based on the numbers in that ESPN story from D.o.s.

Worst case Rondo missed out on $13,929.33, if you divide their playoff share equally by 15 guys (though Rondo gets less if they divide by minutes or games played or something else). 

Rondo made $12,909,091 this year, so for comparison if you make $50k a year, that's like finding out your boss handed out $50 Starbucks gift cards after you quit half way through a project ($53.95 to be exact), or it's like missing out on $107.90 bonus if you make $100k per year.

I don't think too many of us regular folks would care if that happened to us.

I agree that the money aspect of it is pretty negligible.  However, isn't it pretty telling that the organization left Rondo off the list completely (if reports are true)?  Things had to have been pretty bad there at the end if the organization is keeping it off the list and not even including him in the voting of playoff shares, IMO.


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This sounds like a bigger story than it really is when you do the math based on the numbers in that ESPN story from D.o.s.

Worst case Rondo missed out on $13,929.33, if you divide their playoff share equally by 15 guys (though Rondo gets less if they divide by minutes or games played or something else). 

Rondo made $12,909,091 this year, so for comparison if you make $50k a year, that's like finding out your boss handed out $50 Starbucks gift cards after you quit half way through a project ($53.95 to be exact), or it's like missing out on $107.90 bonus if you make $100k per year.

I don't think too many of us regular folks would care if that happened to us.

Very True.

But it makes DAL look small as an organization that this happened and was leaked.

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I imagine the relationship between Rondo and the other players/coach was even uglier than we've seen.   Cutting ties with him completely only 10 minutes into Game 2?... things must have gotten heated in the lockerroom during Rondo's short cancerous stay. 

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This sounds like a bigger story than it really is when you do the math based on the numbers in that ESPN story from D.o.s.

Worst case Rondo missed out on $13,929.33, if you divide their playoff share equally by 15 guys (though Rondo gets less if they divide by minutes or games played or something else). 

Rondo made $12,909,091 this year, so for comparison if you make $50k a year, that's like finding out your boss handed out $50 Starbucks gift cards after you quit half way through a project ($53.95 to be exact), or it's like missing out on $107.90 bonus if you make $100k per year.

I don't think too many of us regular folks would care if that happened to us.

Very True.

But it makes DAL look small as an organization that this happened and was leaked.

Personally, it sounds like Cuban has changed his ways.

I remember a story way back in '02, Dallas had traded Juwan Howard midway through the season that year.  Cuban saw Howard during the playoffs, and said something like "the farther we go, the farther you go," and the article laid it out how generous Cuban was, as he was giving guys who were part of the team at some point that year but on the playoff roster part of Dallas's playoff shares.  So not just Rondo, but what about guys like Crowder, Wright, Nelson, etc.  I guess he's just not this great, new, doing-things-differently owner anymore.

Edit - though I guess Cuban could be paying those extra playoff shares out of his own pocket.
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This reveals that players should be compensated much better in the playoffs than they currently are. Those numbers are not big enough at all.
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