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Re: What do you think of this offseason plan? Sign Green and Davis.
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2015, 03:17:24 PM »

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I like both moves you outlined and I like grant as a player as I also like the draft and stash idea but i think green would be more expensive than this. I also think he fits better at the 2.

If we could get him for under 10 I'd be ecstatic.

I like Ed Davis but I certainly don't think he moves the needle at all so that part is pretty whatever for me.

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« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2015, 03:22:30 PM »

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No thanks.

I would only want Green if we brought in someone like Love or Cousins.

Green is essentially the 2nd or 3rd piece you need.

So you want to come in 7th,8th place again next season?

Why go after players that don't exactly make us championship contenders? I would rather go after Middleton or Draymond Green, if we're going after players that won't bring us a championship or be a part of a Big 3.
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Re: What do you think of this offseason plan? Sign Green and Davis.
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2015, 03:24:37 PM »

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I think the plan is underwhelming and not really that good, we may have to settle for less, but I wager the majority of us, want or hope for more.

We all do. But Danny is not a magician. It wont be easy to get/trade for a star .  my plan doesnt help us win a ring but it helps this team move fwd.

The landscape in the NBA can change radically at a moment's notice. I think it's better to wait for an opportunity for major improvement than to settle for smaller, incremental ones.
I agree but the thing is danny green at 7 mil and ed Davis at 4.5 will never be a drag on our cap situation. There will always be a team (especIlly with green) whose down to take those guys on for a couple 2d rounders. The other thing is that the more cheap depth we get across the team makes it easier to get a star or moving up in the draft without leaving holes all across the lineup.


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« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2015, 03:27:10 PM »

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so?. the plan is to add to role players to a team of role players.  why?  we need players that are starting-quality, not more guys that would be coming off the bench if they were on good teams

Green is not a role player. He is a starter . Not consistently dominant but some games will go off for 28, 30 etc. Very good 3 pt shooter (41 percent avg last 3 season) good  defender and has won several rings. He can provide leadership he has learned as a member of the Spurs

Davis adds the above the rim guy we desperately need. He was good with memphis and with the lakers, well nobody would look good playing for them.

Lakers already having randle at the pf spot likely wont make much of an effort to retain davis. You can bet Davis will not pick up his player option for 1 mill


We add theae two plus my draft plan and we are a better team than todays version(with the hope that Sully, KO, smart progress) .  we make 4-6 seed next season, hopefully get past the 1st round and a key FA may want to join. Or luckily one of our picks will turn into a star. OR danny can pull a  2007-2008 and  trade our many assets fo a star or two

Green has a solid enough resume without these exaggerations.  He's won one ring (last year), unless we're counting NCAA titles now... in which case, draft Quinn Cook!  No?  Didn't think so.  Also, why do we assume that every guy who has been on a successful team is automatically a leader? 

He is what he is:  a 3-and-D wing who can capably be a starter with the right pieces around him.  Good player?  Certainly - if we already had our foundation then I'd love the idea.  We don't. 

Not crazy about bringing in Ed Davis to be something he has never been before.  The Laker defense was horrid with him on the floor and actually slightly better when he was sitting down (though still terrible).  No way am I expecting him to anchor a good defense.  Sometimes I really question your definition of 'rim protector'. 




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« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2015, 03:48:59 PM »

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I think Ed Davis should ideally be the 3rd big on some team that can play him at power forward without tanking their offense.  He's productive and blocks shots but he's not a center.
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Re: What do you think of this offseason plan? Sign Green and Davis.
« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2015, 04:18:44 PM »

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I think Ed Davis should ideally be the 3rd big on some team that can play him at power forward without tanking their offense.  He's productive and blocks shots but he's not a center.

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2.  Ed Davis       PF/C - 4.5 Million a season for 3 years - Has added enough weight to guard some centers.  Explosive , above the rim athlete. Good shot blocker and rebounder when focused.  Former lotto pick

1. I'm not sure where this idea that Davis is a good shot blocker comes from. In 7,563 career minutes he's blocked a total of 356 shots. It probably has to with the fact that he should block shots because he's athletic, but he really doesn't.

2. Like PhoSita said, he's not a center.

3. He can't shoot, so playing him at the 4 doesn't work with the spacing Stevens wants to play with. On the year he shot 38% on shots 3 to 10 feet and 35% on shots 10 to 16 feet.

Re: What do you think of this offseason plan? Sign Green and Davis.
« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2015, 05:24:56 PM »

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With the east becoming even better next year it may be most likely that the Celts do not make the playoffs...even with these additions.

Like Roy H. mentioned earlier, Danny could just collect contracts and picks ala zeller and Thornton. I think that is a smarter plan than being in the way of a Viking raid come playoff time....and thats if we even make it next year.


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« Reply #37 on: April 22, 2015, 05:28:00 PM »

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No thanks.

I would only want Green if we brought in someone like Love or Cousins.

Green is essentially the 2nd or 3rd piece you need.

So you want to come in 7th,8th place again next season?
that's what Green and Davis will get us.

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« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2015, 05:32:12 PM »

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We have 4 PFs better than Ed Davis already (Sully, Bass, Jerebko, Olynyk).

Why downgrade the roster?

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« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2015, 05:48:37 PM »

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so?. the plan is to add to role players to a team of role players.  why?  we need players that are starting-quality, not more guys that would be coming off the bench if they were on good teams

Green is not a role player. He is a starter . Not consistently dominant but some games will go off for 28, 30 etc. Very good 3 pt shooter (41 percent avg last 3 season) good  defender and has won several rings. He can provide leadership he has learned as a member of the Spurs

Davis adds the above the rim guy we desperately need. He was good with memphis and with the lakers, well nobody would look good playing for them.

Lakers already having randle at the pf spot likely wont make much of an effort to retain davis. You can bet Davis will not pick up his player option for 1 mill


We add theae two plus my draft plan and we are a better team than todays version(with the hope that Sully, KO, smart progress) .  we make 4-6 seed next season, hopefully get past the 1st round and a key FA may want to join. Or luckily one of our picks will turn into a star. OR danny can pull a  2007-2008 and  trade our many assets fo a star or two

Green has a solid enough resume without these exaggerations.  He's won one ring (last year), unless we're counting NCAA titles now... in which case, draft Quinn Cook!  No?  Didn't think so.  Also, why do we assume that every guy who has been on a successful team is automatically a leader? 

He is what he is:  a 3-and-D wing who can capably be a starter with the right pieces around him.  Good player?  Certainly - if we already had our foundation then I'd love the idea.  We don't. 

Not crazy about bringing in Ed Davis to be something he has never been before.  The Laker defense was horrid with him on the floor and actually slightly better when he was sitting down (though still terrible).  No way am I expecting him to anchor a good defense.  Sometimes I really question your definition of 'rim protector'. 

a more thorough response than mine.  TP

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« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2015, 06:08:50 PM »

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Team needs a legit C who brings it on D. Zeller is not the answer. Exposed vs Cavs on D. He plays below the rim and cannot or does not box out on D..
Several possessions on the D end in game 2 where he is caught flat footed and again no box out..

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« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2015, 06:34:26 PM »

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The other option to Davis or in addition to signing Davis would be to sign Robin Lopez

Robin Lopez - 6-7 million a season.  A little bit of an overpayment but he can defend many centers in the nba.  Not great on the offensive end. But can run , rebound and alter shots (utilizing his enormous 7'6 wingspan)


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« Reply #42 on: April 22, 2015, 07:16:31 PM »

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I think the plan is underwhelming and not really that good, we may have to settle for less, but I wager the majority of us, want or hope for more.

We all do. But Danny is not a magician. It wont be easy to get/trade for a star .  my plan doesnt help us win a ring but it helps this team move fwd.

actually Danny is a magician...(see Isaiah Thomas, Tyler Zeller, Evan Turner) He made them appear out of thin air. ;)
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« Reply #43 on: April 22, 2015, 07:46:03 PM »

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I think the plan is underwhelming and not really that good, we may have to settle for less, but I wager the majority of us, want or hope for more.

We all do. But Danny is not a magician. It wont be easy to get/trade for a star .  my plan doesnt help us win a ring but it helps this team move fwd.

actually Danny is a magician...(see Isaiah Thomas, Tyler Zeller, Evan Turner) He made them appear out of thin air. ;)

Yup basically created a fringe play off team out of cast offs ,  for little of no assets ....gave up little to get a few players ....redirect their careers and he'll shop them for better players too....smart,

Funny thing is he got Mavs to PAY US assets to take  Rondo .....which that alone helped the team....I vote "fleece " of the year. Award :)

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« Reply #44 on: April 22, 2015, 07:47:20 PM »

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The other option to Davis or in addition to signing Davis would be to sign Robin Lopez

Robin Lopez - 6-7 million a season.  A little bit of an overpayment but he can defend many centers in the nba.  Not great on the offensive end. But can run , rebound and alter shots (utilizing his enormous 7'6 wingspan)
Thats not an overpayment on Lopez.  He is worth more and will make more.