Sullinger attitude

[Celtics4ever]

Sullinger is our best player, but Celtic fans love to complain.

He thinks he is , did you read his quote about "go to shots".   Which I might add he rarely made.   

To be fair, He was a our best rebounder, he was never our best shooter, a professional that lead the team by example or took care of his body or the best defender.

I hear some the glasses they have nowadays work great, maybe get some so you can see the games.

They were asking him about Sullinger, he did not exactly give him a ringing endorsement. 

  Gorman understands more more than 14 and 8.   They see the guy not running, taking bad shots and taking plays off.  He watches basketball for a living, the guy knows his stuff.

But he thinks sully is here long term only if he makes some significant changes

  I hope Ainge uses him to move up the Clippers pick to get someone of value.   Sully thinks he is all world, he is not, but he has fooled quite a few of peeps in this thread, who she basketball at a superficial level.

[LarBrd33]

Sullinger was putting up good stats before his injury, but I'm not even sure he's better than Bass.  Bass seems to be more efficient scorer (12.7 points on 55% shooting since the all-star break) and probably a better defender. 

Here's what I'll say about Sully.   It's never a good sign when a player gets fatter as the season progresses (Glen Davis, for example).  After all the noise we heard about Sully's potential contingent on him transforming his body like Kevin Love, he comes back in the same garbage shape.  He balloons up to over 300 pounds (by his own admission).   That's weird.  It's also weird that he had to be fined by the team for showing up late.   

The organization does a good job at keeping drama in-house.  We barely heard about all the trouble the team had with Rondo when he was here.    So who knows how bad Sullinger actually is.  But when you can blatantly see certain things (him getting fatter and showing up to games late), it's probably a pretty good sign the kid has an attitude problem and will not be here very long.

[incoherent]

Sullinger absolutely has an attitude problem.

Mostly it's a sense of entitlement, given to him from his father.

Maybe some of you remember Satch's comments to the media about Danny "promising Sully that he would get a center". That's pretty much the last thing I've heard from Satch so I think the Celtics FO got to him and got him to shut his mouth.

Sullinger no doubt has a sense of entitlement, the proof is in his work ethic.

[CelticGuardian]

Sullinger was putting up good stats before his injury, but I'm not even sure he's better than Bass.  Bass seems to be more efficient scorer (12.7 points on 55% shooting since the all-star break) and probably a better defender. 

Here's what I'll say about Sully.   It's never a good sign when a player gets fatter as the season progresses (Glen Davis, for example).  After all the noise we heard about Sully's potential contingent on him transforming his body like Kevin Love, he comes back in the same garbage shape.  He balloons up to over 300 pounds (by his own admission).   That's weird.  It's also weird that he had to be fined by the team for showing up late.   

The organization does a good job at keeping drama in-house.  We barely heard about all the trouble the team had with Rondo when he was here.    So who knows how bad Sullinger actually is.  But when you can blatantly see certain things (him getting fatter and showing up to games late), it's probably a pretty good sign the kid has an attitude problem and will not be here very long.

We need to rid ourselves of this guy, there's just so much better options in free agency.

[fairweatherfan]

I really have no qualms with either Sully being moved or taking a hike after next season. 

Maybe he gets his act together on all fronts but I'm fine with the Celtics going forward without Sully being a part of their long-term future.  I don't think he's the long term answer at PF to begin with.

Yup, feel the same way.  He's a superior version of BBD - better size, better range, better rebounding, etc, but with the same kinds of fitness and mindset issues, plus even more injury concerns.  If he hasn't taken steps to improve these issues by now (and I don't think he has), he probably isn't going to.  I root for Sully like everyone else in green but I'm very ok with cutting bait and moving on.

[D Dub]

Is there any player in the NBA less fit than Jared? 

[GC003332]

One of the first games back after the west coast road trip Sullinger was sitting on the bench next to Wallace laughing it up , he was actually chopping on something, it could of been nuts from what I could tell.No joke.it was not long after that he disappeared off the bench.
Arguably the best Celtics post up player, and player with the best feel for the game.i believe one of the worst things to happen to him was KG praising him early on in his rookie season.
The question is how many teams in contention would he get starters minutes on when healthy?
If he was to be traded would the Celts be able to get a first pick in the low 20's for him.

Gavin

[kozlodoev]

When's the last time _anyone_ from the Celtics brass had a glowing endorsement for Sullinger? He'll be gone as soon as they can get anything substantial for him.

[BDeCosta26]

Sullinger definitely has attitude problems. He's been told countless times by the C's staff (and his dad I'm sure) what he has to do to be the best player he can be. And he can't even manage to say the right things. I'm not sure of the exact quote, but last summer when we were all waiting to see what he did about his weight, he said something like "I don't really need to lose much weight, it's an advantage for me". Psh. He could be a really good player if he put his head on straight. He was our best player when he got hurt.

 He really needed a couple extra years around KG and Pierce. Once they left there was no veterans to keep him in check. But this is a very different team than the one he left when he got hurt. These guys are all-in with CBS and they're a real team with leadership and collective effort. The dynamic in Boston has changed, and if Sully does the same thing he's been doing for the past few summers and doesn't get with the program, the team will ostracize him and DA will get rid of him.

Thankfully, young talented big men will ALWAYS have value in he NBA. Just the fact he came back 20 pounds lighter from his injury ahead of schedule bodes well for his trade value. I think we could get a mid-late 1st an expiring for him. Or he could be part of a package that moves us into the top-10 on draft night. Rumor has it teams ask about him and KO all the time. Ainge will move him without pause if he doesn't shape up. And rightfully so, potential be darned.

[Pucaccia]

Sullinger doesn't have a bad attitude.  You guys are reading something out of nothing. He is a good kid that will be a valuable player for the Celtics. 

[BudweiserCeltic]

If only we had traded away Pierce and his attitude problems earlier.

[Evantime34]

If only we had traded away Pierce and his attitude problems earlier.

Although Sullinger isn't in the same stratosphere as Pierce talent wise this does bring up a good point.

Young players mature as they grow up, and while I don't completely believe in his change, it is possible that the stress fracture was the turning point in Sully's career.

[makaveli]

If only we had traded away Pierce and his attitude problems earlier.

at this point of sullinger's carrer, dude doesn't deserve to be put into the same sentence as P2, in any sort of fasion.
Pierce was an elite player since day one. Sully was a weight question mark from day -100.

[Granath]

Sullinger is our best player, but Celtic fans love to complain.

I think he was our best player before the all star break. Then he went down and the C's started playing better.

This is not correct.

The Celtics played about .500 ball after the Rondo and Green trades and before Sully went down with his injury - and that was pre-IT. Mind you the data set is limited, but in those games Sully averaged 16 points and over 8 boards per game.

That doesn't mean I'm sold on Sully, but let's not falsely attribute the Cs turnaround to him going out. I'm also not in favor of getting rid of him now when his trade value is at a relative low point.

[BudweiserCeltic]

If only we had traded away Pierce and his attitude problems earlier.

at this point of sullinger's carrer, dude doesn't deserve to be put into the same sentence as P2, in any sort of fasion.
Pierce was an elite player since day one. Sully was a weight question mark from day -100.

Of course, but we're also talking about a very talented player whose attitude is being severely overstatated in my opinion, a kid who just turned 23 years old.

I'll hold off on passing any judgment on his attitude, and even more so to let me guide my opinion of whether he should be traded or not.