The love affair with Philadelphia

[KeepRondo]

76ers just going though the motions of TRYIng to play basketball.   That's great entertainment .   Putting together a program based on losing .   . 

That's good value and something cheer for and pay to see? Yeah right.

If the Celtics did this , I would not be buying tickets and wouldn't pay for league pass to watch d leaguers and this years first round player stumble around getting destroyed.

So how many years do they idle along , pretending to be a basketball team , waiting for the next MJ to happen along.   There is way more to team than just getting a few first round lottery picks , of course if your only a lad .....your brain would have any reference for how the real world works.

It some point ...they need to man up ...quit the bull and play the game ....like professionals



So they are professional screw up team ......wow that's something to be proud of ......bunch of losers.

I agree it looks bad. They're never going to build a great team if they refuse to give guys time to develop. The "you are not a star in 2 years trading you" strategy seems horrible. Veteran teams win titles not 3 and 4 year players. Believe avg age of modern day championship teams is 28. And no teams since 70s haven't done it at under effective age of 26. That means guys the guys you rely on are 5+ year pros. Philly strategy of draft high is nice but can't sit there just waiting to hit big.

They traded MCW because he was a very offensively inefficient PG and they got a very good Lakers pick in return.  Noel has looked better offensively after the trade with Ish Smith at PG.  Hinkie obviously didn't think MCW would develop into the kind of player he wants as their future PG.  If they held onto MCW, the most likely outcome would be that he'd remain an inefficient PG and his trade value would plummet. 

McDaniels was traded because he didn't sign a team friendly deal like most 2nd rounders do.  He wasn't going to overpay to keep McDaniels, a role player at best, so he traded him for some return. 

Besides MCW and McDaniels, I don't see anyone else you could be referring to.  They are developing Noel quite well and at the end of the season moved him back to PF to try to get him ready to play with Embiid.

Unless the Lakers are extremely unlucky and two teams jump them in the lottery, this will most likely be a bad trade.

[Moranis]

76ers just going though the motions of TRYIng to play basketball.   That's great entertainment .   Putting together a program based on losing .   . 

That's good value and something cheer for and pay to see? Yeah right.

If the Celtics did this , I would not be buying tickets and wouldn't pay for league pass to watch d leaguers and this years first round player stumble around getting destroyed.

So how many years do they idle along , pretending to be a basketball team , waiting for the next MJ to happen along.   There is way more to team than just getting a few first round lottery picks , of course if your only a lad .....your brain would have any reference for how the real world works.

It some point ...they need to man up ...quit the bull and play the game ....like professionals



So they are professional screw up team ......wow that's something to be proud of ......bunch of losers.

I agree it looks bad. They're never going to build a great team if they refuse to give guys time to develop. The "you are not a star in 2 years trading you" strategy seems horrible. Veteran teams win titles not 3 and 4 year players. Believe avg age of modern day championship teams is 28. And no teams since 70s haven't done it at under effective age of 26. That means guys the guys you rely on are 5+ year pros. Philly strategy of draft high is nice but can't sit there just waiting to hit big.

They traded MCW because he was a very offensively inefficient PG and they got a very good Lakers pick in return.  Noel has looked better offensively after the trade with Ish Smith at PG.  Hinkie obviously didn't think MCW would develop into the kind of player he wants as their future PG.  If they held onto MCW, the most likely outcome would be that he'd remain an inefficient PG and his trade value would plummet. 

McDaniels was traded because he didn't sign a team friendly deal like most 2nd rounders do.  He wasn't going to overpay to keep McDaniels, a role player at best, so he traded him for some return. 

Besides MCW and McDaniels, I don't see anyone else you could be referring to.  They are developing Noel quite well and at the end of the season moved him back to PF to try to get him ready to play with Embiid.

Unless the Lakers are extremely unlucky and two teams jump them in the lottery, this will most likely be a bad trade.

I don't think you can say that, I mean MCW himself was the 11th pick in what many consider a very weak draft.  So unless the Lakers go from terrible to very good (like in the playoffs good) in one off season, the trade at best would be a wash.  I just don't see LA making the playoffs next year.  Even if they sign Rondo and Love, I don't think they make the playoffs. 

[saltlover]

I don't think you can say that, I mean MCW himself was the 11th pick in what many consider a very weak draft.  So unless the Lakers go from terrible to very good (like in the playoffs good) in one off season, the trade at best would be a wash.  I just don't see LA making the playoffs next year.  Even if they sign Rondo and Love, I don't think they make the playoffs.

It's not the same to say "oh, MCW was 11 in a weak draft, so if they get #11 next year it'll be a wash."  By that logic, the Jazz should be on board to send us Gobert for the Clippers pick, since it'd be a wash, as he was 27 overall.  MCW had become a capable NBA point guard in 1.5 seasons.  Is he a future superstar?  No, probably not.  But he's already offered more NBA value than most #11 picks going back the last 15 years.  (It's Klay Thompson, JJ Redick, and not much else).  MCW had improved beyond the point of being a risk to bust out of the NBA, and still has two full years on his rookie deal. That's good value.

Meanwhile, the Sixers are continuing their trudge through irrelevance, wasting Noel's rookie deal.  I wouldn't be remotely surprised if one of Noel or Embiid is traded in the next year. They're just wasting the biggest value of rookie deals, which is cap flexibility.  Missing the forest for the trees.

[dreamgreen]

I'll sum it up easy for you.

Half of the people in this country are morons, if you follow politics you will easily understand this.

So my point is don't bother to listen to anyone unless you have found them worthy of listening to.

[tazzmaniac]

I don't think you can say that, I mean MCW himself was the 11th pick in what many consider a very weak draft.  So unless the Lakers go from terrible to very good (like in the playoffs good) in one off season, the trade at best would be a wash.  I just don't see LA making the playoffs next year.  Even if they sign Rondo and Love, I don't think they make the playoffs.

It's not the same to say "oh, MCW was 11 in a weak draft, so if they get #11 next year it'll be a wash."  By that logic, the Jazz should be on board to send us Gobert for the Clippers pick, since it'd be a wash, as he was 27 overall.  MCW had become a capable NBA point guard in 1.5 seasons.  Is he a future superstar?  No, probably not.  But he's already offered more NBA value than most #11 picks going back the last 15 years.  (It's Klay Thompson, JJ Redick, and not much else).  MCW had improved beyond the point of being a risk to bust out of the NBA, and still has two full years on his rookie deal. That's good value.

Meanwhile, the Sixers are continuing their trudge through irrelevance, wasting Noel's rookie deal.  I wouldn't be remotely surprised if one of Noel or Embiid is traded in the next year. They're just wasting the biggest value of rookie deals, which is cap flexibility.  Missing the forest for the trees.

Good value for what?  The Sixers aren't focused on winning.  They have plenty of cap space.  Once Hinkie decided that MCW was unlikely to develop into the future PG that he wanted, MCW's value to the Sixers was solely as a tradable asset.  Hinkie was smart to trade MCW while his value was still high. 

In regards to being a capable PG, I guess that depends on what you mean by capable PG.  Noel has played better offensively since the MCW trade and commented that Ish Smith was the first true PG that he has played with in the NBA.  With the depth at the PG position, MCW is easily replaceable.  There's a good chance the Sixers will take Russell or Mudiay in this draft.   

As for the Lakers pick it should still be good next year.  The Lakers were lousy this year with and without Kobe.  I could see them leap frogging the Nuggets and the Kings but they'd have to have a lot of luck to do better than the Jazz, Suns, etc. 

[PhoSita]

I'll sum it up easy for you.

Half of the people in this country are morons, if you follow politics you will easily understand this.

So my point is don't bother to listen to anyone unless you have found them worthy of listening to.

I agree.  I have found in life that only listening to people who agree with me (i.e. smart people) is the best way to go.

[Csfan1984]

76ers just going though the motions of TRYIng to play basketball.   That's great entertainment .   Putting together a program based on losing .   . 

That's good value and something cheer for and pay to see? Yeah right.

If the Celtics did this , I would not be buying tickets and wouldn't pay for league pass to watch d leaguers and this years first round player stumble around getting destroyed.

So how many years do they idle along , pretending to be a basketball team , waiting for the next MJ to happen along.   There is way more to team than just getting a few first round lottery picks , of course if your only a lad .....your brain would have any reference for how the real world works.

It some point ...they need to man up ...quit the bull and play the game ....like professionals



So they are professional screw up team ......wow that's something to be proud of ......bunch of losers.

I agree it looks bad. They're never going to build a great team if they refuse to give guys time to develop. The "you are not a star in 2 years trading you" strategy seems horrible. Veteran teams win titles not 3 and 4 year players. Believe avg age of modern day championship teams is 28. And no teams since 70s haven't done it at under effective age of 26. That means guys the guys you rely on are 5+ year pros. Philly strategy of draft high is nice but can't sit there just waiting to hit big.

They traded MCW because he was a very offensively inefficient PG and they got a very good Lakers pick in return.  Noel has looked better offensively after the trade with Ish Smith at PG.  Hinkie obviously didn't think MCW would develop into the kind of player he wants as their future PG.  If they held onto MCW, the most likely outcome would be that he'd remain an inefficient PG and his trade value would plummet. 

McDaniels was traded because he didn't sign a team friendly deal like most 2nd rounders do.  He wasn't going to overpay to keep McDaniels, a role player at best, so he traded him for some return. 

Besides MCW and McDaniels, I don't see anyone else you could be referring to.  They are developing Noel quite well and at the end of the season moved him back to PF to try to get him ready to play with Embiid.

Time will tell. Sixers fans seem to be real certain about bust and stars. If the guys he dumped keep developing into solid players what will be the excuse, he didn't tear up the league at 21? He better find the next Superstar fast because Noel with his same offense woes as MCW and McDaniels may be shown the door next. Then what are sixer fans to do? Will they soon give up all their tickets to the games? What was the attendance there this year? Just be mindful of the teams direction don't be blind. You can be critical of a home team. I hate that C's "couldn't" tank this year because tank war was crazy. I still dislike Hinks followers claiming boom and bust about players that have yet to get real shots.

[tazzmaniac]

76ers just going though the motions of TRYIng to play basketball.   That's great entertainment .   Putting together a program based on losing .   . 

That's good value and something cheer for and pay to see? Yeah right.

If the Celtics did this , I would not be buying tickets and wouldn't pay for league pass to watch d leaguers and this years first round player stumble around getting destroyed.

So how many years do they idle along , pretending to be a basketball team , waiting for the next MJ to happen along.   There is way more to team than just getting a few first round lottery picks , of course if your only a lad .....your brain would have any reference for how the real world works.

It some point ...they need to man up ...quit the bull and play the game ....like professionals



So they are professional screw up team ......wow that's something to be proud of ......bunch of losers.

I agree it looks bad. They're never going to build a great team if they refuse to give guys time to develop. The "you are not a star in 2 years trading you" strategy seems horrible. Veteran teams win titles not 3 and 4 year players. Believe avg age of modern day championship teams is 28. And no teams since 70s haven't done it at under effective age of 26. That means guys the guys you rely on are 5+ year pros. Philly strategy of draft high is nice but can't sit there just waiting to hit big.

They traded MCW because he was a very offensively inefficient PG and they got a very good Lakers pick in return.  Noel has looked better offensively after the trade with Ish Smith at PG.  Hinkie obviously didn't think MCW would develop into the kind of player he wants as their future PG.  If they held onto MCW, the most likely outcome would be that he'd remain an inefficient PG and his trade value would plummet. 

McDaniels was traded because he didn't sign a team friendly deal like most 2nd rounders do.  He wasn't going to overpay to keep McDaniels, a role player at best, so he traded him for some return. 

Besides MCW and McDaniels, I don't see anyone else you could be referring to.  They are developing Noel quite well and at the end of the season moved him back to PF to try to get him ready to play with Embiid.

Time will tell. Sixers fans seem to be real certain about bust and stars. If the guys he dumped keep developing into solid players what will be the excuse, he didn't tear up the league at 21? He better find the next Superstar fast because Noel with his same offense woes as MCW and McDaniels may be shown the door next. Then what are sixer fans to do? Will they soon give up all their tickets to the games? What was the attendance there this year? Just be mindful of the teams direction don't be blind. You can be critical of a home team. I hate that C's "couldn't" tank this year because tank war was crazy. I still dislike Hinks followers claiming boom and bust about players that have yet to get real shots.

What guys has Hinkie dumped that have developed any more than what they already were?  The Bucks have lost a bunch of games since acquiring MCW.  McDaniels has hardly played for Houston.  Assessing the potential and value of players is part of a GM's job.  You can't just keep players around year after year hoping that they'll develop eventually and you shouldn't overpay for role players, even young ones.  I've seen a lot of Sixers bashers say how bad it is they traded McDaniels but I haven't seen any of them say that we should go after McDaniels in free agency. 

[Csfan1984]

76ers just going though the motions of TRYIng to play basketball.   That's great entertainment .   Putting together a program based on losing .   . 

That's good value and something cheer for and pay to see? Yeah right.

If the Celtics did this , I would not be buying tickets and wouldn't pay for league pass to watch d leaguers and this years first round player stumble around getting destroyed.

So how many years do they idle along , pretending to be a basketball team , waiting for the next MJ to happen along.   There is way more to team than just getting a few first round lottery picks , of course if your only a lad .....your brain would have any reference for how the real world works.

It some point ...they need to man up ...quit the bull and play the game ....like professionals



So they are professional screw up team ......wow that's something to be proud of ......bunch of losers.

I agree it looks bad. They're never going to build a great team if they refuse to give guys time to develop. The "you are not a star in 2 years trading you" strategy seems horrible. Veteran teams win titles not 3 and 4 year players. Believe avg age of modern day championship teams is 28. And no teams since 70s haven't done it at under effective age of 26. That means guys the guys you rely on are 5+ year pros. Philly strategy of draft high is nice but can't sit there just waiting to hit big.

They traded MCW because he was a very offensively inefficient PG and they got a very good Lakers pick in return.  Noel has looked better offensively after the trade with Ish Smith at PG.  Hinkie obviously didn't think MCW would develop into the kind of player he wants as their future PG.  If they held onto MCW, the most likely outcome would be that he'd remain an inefficient PG and his trade value would plummet. 

McDaniels was traded because he didn't sign a team friendly deal like most 2nd rounders do.  He wasn't going to overpay to keep McDaniels, a role player at best, so he traded him for some return. 

Besides MCW and McDaniels, I don't see anyone else you could be referring to.  They are developing Noel quite well and at the end of the season moved him back to PF to try to get him ready to play with Embiid.

Time will tell. Sixers fans seem to be real certain about bust and stars. If the guys he dumped keep developing into solid players what will be the excuse, he didn't tear up the league at 21? He better find the next Superstar fast because Noel with his same offense woes as MCW and McDaniels may be shown the door next. Then what are sixer fans to do? Will they soon give up all their tickets to the games? What was the attendance there this year? Just be mindful of the teams direction don't be blind. You can be critical of a home team. I hate that C's "couldn't" tank this year because tank war was crazy. I still dislike Hinks followers claiming boom and bust about players that have yet to get real shots.

What guys has Hinkie dumped that have developed any more than what they already were?  The Bucks have lost a bunch of games since acquiring MCW.  McDaniels has hardly played for Houston.  Assessing the potential and value of players is part of a GM's job.  You can't just keep players around year after year hoping that they'll develop eventually and you shouldn't overpay for role players, even young ones.  I've seen a lot of Sixers bashers say how bad it is they traded McDaniels but I haven't seen any of them say that we should go after McDaniels in free agency.

On que claiming Bucks loses all on MCW and he won't develop lol. How many games did he get to play and develop? How old is he? This is exactly what I'm talking about.

As for McDaniels, Harden is playing a ton of minutes and Kevin is like Doc when it comes to rookies. In FA I like McDaniels but think we have good defenders already in AB and Smart (Crowder is OK as well but not McDaniels level).  Turner and Young and slotted to get the SF time so no room for McDaniels unless we can move AB or Turner. Sixers could of had two defensive anchors in McDaniels and Noel they should have kept him. Draft offense in Russell or Mudiay. Go into next year with Russell(Offense), Wroten(offense), McDaniels(defense), Noel(defense), Embid(Both).

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

76ers just going though the motions of TRYIng to play basketball.   That's great entertainment .   Putting together a program based on losing .   . 

That's good value and something cheer for and pay to see? Yeah right.

If the Celtics did this , I would not be buying tickets and wouldn't pay for league pass to watch d leaguers and this years first round player stumble around getting destroyed.

So how many years do they idle along , pretending to be a basketball team , waiting for the next MJ to happen along.   There is way more to team than just getting a few first round lottery picks , of course if your only a lad .....your brain would have any reference for how the real world works.

It some point ...they need to man up ...quit the bull and play the game ....like professionals



So they are professional screw up team ......wow that's something to be proud of ......bunch of losers.

I agree it looks bad. They're never going to build a great team if they refuse to give guys time to develop. The "you are not a star in 2 years trading you" strategy seems horrible. Veteran teams win titles not 3 and 4 year players. Believe avg age of modern day championship teams is 28. And no teams since 70s haven't done it at under effective age of 26. That means guys the guys you rely on are 5+ year pros. Philly strategy of draft high is nice but can't sit there just waiting to hit big.

They traded MCW because he was a very offensively inefficient PG and they got a very good Lakers pick in return.  Noel has looked better offensively after the trade with Ish Smith at PG.  Hinkie obviously didn't think MCW would develop into the kind of player he wants as their future PG.  If they held onto MCW, the most likely outcome would be that he'd remain an inefficient PG and his trade value would plummet. 

McDaniels was traded because he didn't sign a team friendly deal like most 2nd rounders do.  He wasn't going to overpay to keep McDaniels, a role player at best, so he traded him for some return. 

Besides MCW and McDaniels, I don't see anyone else you could be referring to.  They are developing Noel quite well and at the end of the season moved him back to PF to try to get him ready to play with Embiid.

Unless the Lakers are extremely unlucky and two teams jump them in the lottery, this will most likely be a bad trade.

How so? They didn't think they'd be getting the pick this year anyways. It rolls over to a top 3 protection next year.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

76ers just going though the motions of TRYIng to play basketball.   That's great entertainment .   Putting together a program based on losing .   . 

That's good value and something cheer for and pay to see? Yeah right.

If the Celtics did this , I would not be buying tickets and wouldn't pay for league pass to watch d leaguers and this years first round player stumble around getting destroyed.

So how many years do they idle along , pretending to be a basketball team , waiting for the next MJ to happen along.   There is way more to team than just getting a few first round lottery picks , of course if your only a lad .....your brain would have any reference for how the real world works.

It some point ...they need to man up ...quit the bull and play the game ....like professionals



So they are professional screw up team ......wow that's something to be proud of ......bunch of losers.

I agree it looks bad. They're never going to build a great team if they refuse to give guys time to develop. The "you are not a star in 2 years trading you" strategy seems horrible. Veteran teams win titles not 3 and 4 year players. Believe avg age of modern day championship teams is 28. And no teams since 70s haven't done it at under effective age of 26. That means guys the guys you rely on are 5+ year pros. Philly strategy of draft high is nice but can't sit there just waiting to hit big.

They traded MCW because he was a very offensively inefficient PG and they got a very good Lakers pick in return.  Noel has looked better offensively after the trade with Ish Smith at PG.  Hinkie obviously didn't think MCW would develop into the kind of player he wants as their future PG.  If they held onto MCW, the most likely outcome would be that he'd remain an inefficient PG and his trade value would plummet. 

McDaniels was traded because he didn't sign a team friendly deal like most 2nd rounders do.  He wasn't going to overpay to keep McDaniels, a role player at best, so he traded him for some return. 

Besides MCW and McDaniels, I don't see anyone else you could be referring to.  They are developing Noel quite well and at the end of the season moved him back to PF to try to get him ready to play with Embiid.

Time will tell. Sixers fans seem to be real certain about bust and stars. If the guys he dumped keep developing into solid players what will be the excuse, he didn't tear up the league at 21? He better find the next Superstar fast because Noel with his same offense woes as MCW and McDaniels may be shown the door next. Then what are sixer fans to do? Will they soon give up all their tickets to the games? What was the attendance there this year? Just be mindful of the teams direction don't be blind. You can be critical of a home team. I hate that C's "couldn't" tank this year because tank war was crazy. I still dislike Hinks followers claiming boom and bust about players that have yet to get real shots.

MCW hasn't had a real shot? What other team would have given home the leash we did offensively?

Noel doesn't have the same issues on offense MCW does, and his primary role is as a rim protecting big. They aren't trading him unless they get blown away by an offer.

Why do you need an excuse? They traded one of the worst shooting PGs in the NBA for a lightly protected pick from a terrible team. That's not a dump.

As far as McDaniels goes the issue isn't how he develops, it's how much he gets paid. Sam Hinkie isn't going to overpay people just because they're already on the roster. That's the Billy King model, and it doesn't work.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

I don't think you can say that, I mean MCW himself was the 11th pick in what many consider a very weak draft.  So unless the Lakers go from terrible to very good (like in the playoffs good) in one off season, the trade at best would be a wash.  I just don't see LA making the playoffs next year.  Even if they sign Rondo and Love, I don't think they make the playoffs.

It's not the same to say "oh, MCW was 11 in a weak draft, so if they get #11 next year it'll be a wash."  By that logic, the Jazz should be on board to send us Gobert for the Clippers pick, since it'd be a wash, as he was 27 overall.  MCW had become a capable NBA point guard in 1.5 seasons.  Is he a future superstar?  No, probably not.  But he's already offered more NBA value than most #11 picks going back the last 15 years.  (It's Klay Thompson, JJ Redick, and not much else).  MCW had improved beyond the point of being a risk to bust out of the NBA, and still has two full years on his rookie deal. That's good value.

Meanwhile, the Sixers are continuing their trudge through irrelevance, wasting Noel's rookie deal.  I wouldn't be remotely surprised if one of Noel or Embiid is traded in the next year. They're just wasting the biggest value of rookie deals, which is cap flexibility.  Missing the forest for the trees.

I like MCW's potential if he learns to shoot (seems less likely than ever), but he's been an objectively worse PG than Ish Smith who is like 5'9 and on something like his 8th team in 5 years.

MCW is not young for a 2nd year guy either, he's 23 or 24 I think. If he was 20 I think the potential might be more enticing.

He's hard proved he's capable with the exception of defense. He's a trainwreck offensively.

[LooseCannon]

76ers just going though the motions of TRYIng to play basketball.   That's great entertainment .   Putting together a program based on losing .   . 

That's good value and something cheer for and pay to see? Yeah right.

If the Celtics did this , I would not be buying tickets and wouldn't pay for league pass to watch d leaguers and this years first round player stumble around getting destroyed.

So how many years do they idle along , pretending to be a basketball team , waiting for the next MJ to happen along.   There is way more to team than just getting a few first round lottery picks , of course if your only a lad .....your brain would have any reference for how the real world works.

It some point ...they need to man up ...quit the bull and play the game ....like professionals



So they are professional screw up team ......wow that's something to be proud of ......bunch of losers.

I agree it looks bad. They're never going to build a great team if they refuse to give guys time to develop. The "you are not a star in 2 years trading you" strategy seems horrible. Veteran teams win titles not 3 and 4 year players. Believe avg age of modern day championship teams is 28. And no teams since 70s haven't done it at under effective age of 26. That means guys the guys you rely on are 5+ year pros. Philly strategy of draft high is nice but can't sit there just waiting to hit big.

Their strategy seems to be built upon the premise that you need to draft a franchise superstar to compete and it's a mistake to get better and decrease your chances of drafting that superstar until you think you have him.  It makes sense if you feel that drafting a franchise player is an indispensable step.  (I don't think it is a necessary step.)

If you accept that premise, you should ask how long it takes before it becomes clear that a player you have drafted has superstar potential.  How many franchise players didn't look like potential franchise players after two years?

[Moranis]

76ers just going though the motions of TRYIng to play basketball.   That's great entertainment .   Putting together a program based on losing .   . 

That's good value and something cheer for and pay to see? Yeah right.

If the Celtics did this , I would not be buying tickets and wouldn't pay for league pass to watch d leaguers and this years first round player stumble around getting destroyed.

So how many years do they idle along , pretending to be a basketball team , waiting for the next MJ to happen along.   There is way more to team than just getting a few first round lottery picks , of course if your only a lad .....your brain would have any reference for how the real world works.

It some point ...they need to man up ...quit the bull and play the game ....like professionals



So they are professional screw up team ......wow that's something to be proud of ......bunch of losers.

I agree it looks bad. They're never going to build a great team if they refuse to give guys time to develop. The "you are not a star in 2 years trading you" strategy seems horrible. Veteran teams win titles not 3 and 4 year players. Believe avg age of modern day championship teams is 28. And no teams since 70s haven't done it at under effective age of 26. That means guys the guys you rely on are 5+ year pros. Philly strategy of draft high is nice but can't sit there just waiting to hit big.

Their strategy seems to be built upon the premise that you need to draft a franchise superstar to compete and it's a mistake to get better and decrease your chances of drafting that superstar until you think you have him.  It makes sense if you feel that drafting a franchise player is an indispensable step.  (I don't think it is a necessary step.)

If you accept that premise, you should ask how long it takes before it becomes clear that a player you have drafted has superstar potential.  How many franchise players didn't look like potential franchise players after two years?

I would say none.  Certainly all the of the very best guys in history you knew right away were going to be good (maybe not as good as they became but still good).  Now certain good players like Jermaine O'Neal and Steve Nash took awhile to develop, but I'm not sure I'd call them franchise players either.  Of course guys like JO and Nash had no where near the minutes that a guy like MCW had either. 

So it seems pretty obvious MCW isn't a franchise player.  He could still turn it around and become a Chauncey Billups, but it took Billups a long time and a lot of teams to develop into an all star level player (and he was certainly never a franchise player). 

I created a thread that showed how the championship teams acquired their top pieces.  90% were either acquired via the draft or via trading and it is a heck of a lot easier to go the trade route if you have top level assets to trade.

[dark_lord]

I have had an account on this board since pretty close to the beginning but have not really witnessed our fan base have such a collective crush on a fellow team as we seem to have here with the 76ers. Right now we currently have 3 front page topics on Philadelphia and we every couple of weeks (or more frequently) we have a thread on Embiid, Noel and previously, the value of MCW.

I get that the 76er's are doing something that seems fairly unique in terms of tanking by drafting injured players, drafting foreign players and being at the salary floor the last few seasons. That being said this stuff seems a little over the top. Are they a lot of posters second favorite teams? I know that we have a few regular posters that have come over from Philly forums (they have admitted as much in threads), but are there more then a couple? Are the 76ers the second favorite team of a lot of posters? Have they not been good at the same time as for so long that we forget they are a division and historical rival?

I personally think they have some really nice pieces in play with Noels, Embiid and either 1 or 2 upcoming top 5 draft picks. However, there are teams like Minnesota with Dieng, Wiggins, Lavine and an upcoming top 5 pick that appear to have an equally appealing future (not to mention more existing veteran talent). I can't even recall a single thread talking about how great Minnesota's future looks. What about Milwaukee? They have Giannis (board favorite), Jabari Parker, MCW and an interesting piece in Henson. That seems like a really bright future to me too.

Anyone care to explain this Philly phenomenon to me and why they are held in so much higher regard than the other young and potentially up and coming teams? Is it just more philly fans here?

I hate the philly approach.  with that being said, I think many on cb like philly due to fantasy bball.  the thought of building something and projecting is intriguing to them.  this is just speculation on my part.