I'm obviously biased, but I think Jordan Clarkson should get some strong consideration (PER is better than Wiggins and Noel, and he is generally playing well). Even with that said, I give the award to Mirotic pretty easily. Highest rookie PER, plus is playing on a talented team in meaningful games.
I made a thread about him the other day, as I am certainly impressed, as well. He's a lot better than Marcus Smart, lol. 
Ugh. I do think that he should get strong consideration, though, but my vote would have to be for Wiggins. I'm also not surprised to see that Jabari Brown has been playing very well, but I am surprised that Roscoe Smith has yet to be called up. He's like a taller, thinner, version of Jae Crowder mixed with Renaldo Balkman. Sigh. Both of those guys should have been Celtics, imo. You guys obviously have great scouts. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for us, lol. How's Randle coming along? I was honestly torn between him and Smart on draft night.
I wish we could give negative TP's.
- Clarkson a lot better than Smart? Really?
- Roscoe Smith, who isn't in the league, is like Crowder, who is in the league, but mixed with Balkman who isn't in the league either. So are you saying he sucks?
- Lakers have great scouts and we don't? Again, really? Since their 20 win team is filled with so much young talent.
As of right now, yes, Clarkson is much better than Smart. Have you even seen him play or taken the time to look at his numbers, because he's a sick player, imo. You shouldn't be so dismissive of the guy, btw, especially because he was just named rookie of the month in the WESTERN CONFERENCE, and that's no small feat.
What I meant with the Roscoe Smith comparisons is that, like Crowder, he's an all-effort/hustle guy who obviously plays defense, but I included Balkman in there, too, because Smith is an excellent rebounder, like Balkman is, and both of them are of similar size.
Finally, in terms of scouting, yes, I would say that they have much better scouts, given that they were able to find a player of Clarkson's caliber at 46. Okay, so they technically traded for him, but they still identified his talent and went out and got him.
Aren't you also the same guy that just a few months suggested that Rondo is the best PG in the NBA? So honestly, when you say laughable things like Clarkson is better than Smart, or the Lakers have better scouting than the C's, the applicable response would be...consider the source.
And aren't you the same guy who regularly cites Chad Ford as a reputable source, in addition to your idea of giving Jae Crowder, of all people, a 4 year deal? So honestly, when you say laughable things like DJ Augustin is a better point guard than Rajon Rondo, or spell Kirk Hinrich's last name as if he was related to heinrich himmler, the applicable response would be...consider the source. 
We're done here.
I often cite Ford because he's pretty plugged into the NBA draft. However, rest assured that the moment he starts saying ridiculous things like "Clarkson is way better than Rondo" then I'll never use him as a reference again.
I never said Augustin was better than Rondo.
Why wouldn't we want Crowder to a 4 year deal if the price is right?
I was typing off my phone, so perhaps autocorrect took over the catastrophic spelling mishap that occurred. I know that pesky vowel had you confused into thinking I was talking about the third reich.
Ford might be plugged in to the draft, sure, but I wouldn't value the opinion of a guy who has gone back and changed his own draft boards from the past just to make himself look better, or did you miss that story when it was a topic on here?
Also, you did say that Augustin was better than Rondo, and the spelling thing was just a detail that I found to be amusing. You should really be more conscious of the things that you say to people, btw.
Again, never said Augustin was better. Go ahead and try to find that post to support your unsubstantiated claims. Good luck.
No problem. To quote you, "Rondo is not better than either Dragic or Augustin yet the Mavs paid the highest price for him." Here's the link to the post that you claim doesn't exist - http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=76638.msg1837005#msg1837005 - and here's the quote, just for good measure, so that everyone can see that I'm not making any of this up:
Yeah. Very unlikely he remains there after this season. Mavs took a gamble and it failed. Luckily all it cost them was some role players and a late 1st.
You're acting that the end result of this trade is set in stone. With how strong the west is, Dirk being 37 next year, the Mavs potentially looking again for a starting PG, this pick has a chance of being in the middle of the 1st round maybe even better.
The end result of the Pierce trade exemption was Zeller and Thomas. We still have the Rondo TE to play with.
Agreed. LarBrd33 is off the mark.
The pick has a strong chance of being a lottery pick in the west, we were able to get two likely high 2nd picks in the Wright deal, a young 3 and D guy (Crowder) that could be part of our team longterm depending on cost, and have a 12.9M trade exception (larger than the Pierce one).
For comparison, this was the price for the following players:
Dragic
1st rd picks- 2017 & 2021
Granger (who the Heat were dying to trade)
Jackson
2nd rd pick 2017
Singler
Augustin
Rondo is not better than either Dragic or Augustin yet the Mavs paid the highest price for him. Granted, maybe the Suns and Thunder wouldn't have sent those players to another Western conference team, but the return for Rondo should never be in question.
That was about Dragic and Jackson and the price those teams paid to get them, which is why I underlined both their names and included the packages traded for both players. It's a typo in putting Augustin, which is pretty obvious when you read the post. And yes, Rondo is not better than either Dragic or Jackson.
Nice try. 
Isn't it common sense? The talk was comparing the returns of Rondo, Dragic, and Jackson. I felt our return for Rondo was the best of the 3, even though I don't consider him better than the other two players.
If I indeed felt Augustin was better a month ago, surely nothing Rondo has done, which is nothing really, would cause my position to change.
BTW, I find it ironic that your screen name is Beat LA, yet all you do is talk up Clarkson, Randle, and how the Lakers have a better scouting department than we do. You sure seem to like them a lot.
I read the posts, so there's no need to explain its topic to me as if I'm a child, thank you very much; and no, it was not obvious, especially since you mentioned Augustin just prior to the emboldened sentence.
Also, don't try to backtrack. First you said that you had never stated that Augustin was better than Rondo and that I would never find any proof of it, and then, after I did find it, you chalked it up to being such an obvious typo. If it was so obvious, then, why didn't you correct your mistake? And to top it all off, now you're trying to say that what you actually said about Rondo, which you claim never existed in the first place, is actually true. This really is quite laughable. You've flip flopped so many times even Mitt Romney's head is spinning. Honestly, I might have been willing to give you a break had you not incessantly picked on everything that I've ever written, whether it was saying that I have problems in one thread, being annoyed by my use of lol's and smilies (really?), or generally insulting me, so thank you for that emboldened sentence, as everyone now sees your true colors.
Finally, in regards to your ridiculous assumptions regarding my username, all I have to say is that I bleed green, and there's a difference between liking the lakers in this case as opposed to being a bit envious of their up-and-coming prospects, but I should hardly have to highlight such a difference to someone of your obviously superior aptitude (sarcasm). Seriously, what did I ever do to you? I'll be reporting this.
You're trying your hardest to try to spin this, but you know, at least I hope you do, how it was meant. I honestly didn't even notice that I had put Augustin instead of Jackson until you just posted it. Although I do think Dragic and Jackson are better than Rondo, I don't think Augustin is.
No, I'm really not, nor do I even have to try to 'spin' anything when it's all there in black and white. You're actually the one who's trying to spin your way out of this, and, again, which stance are you now adopting in regards to Rondo vs. Augustin, because you've switched viewpoints so many times that I can't keep track. Pick a side already.
Additionally, in terms of my use of emoticons and lol's, the last time I checked, this wasn't your site, nor is it any of ours, and since there's no rule limiting how many smilies and lol's I use, I'll continue to use as many of them as I want to, thank you very much. Only one other poster has ever asked me why I use them so often, and they did so jokingly, and there was no problem between us and everything was very civil, unlike your approach, so it would appear that the only reason why you've made such a big deal over this is because you're the one with the problem, here, not me. You're the one who has singled me out, you're the one who set the rules for this engagement, and you've lost; however, you still won't admit to any of it, thus making this a lot more difficult than it needs to be. I've been wrong on here numerous times, and it only takes 5 simple words to fix everything, "My apologies, I stand corrected," and the fact that you still insist on arguing that, "well, that's what I wrote, but that's not what I meant," instead of just apologizing for attacking and making fun of me and seemingly everything I've written on here speaks volumes, so the next time that you choose to personally attack someone on here (because I have a feeling that this will happen again), would you at least try to make sure that your argument actually holds water? You really need to think about what you say to people and the manner in which you say it, because as of right now, your behavior is completely inappropriate and unacceptable.
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