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Re: The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2015, 10:37:57 PM »

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How many gms will tell you they would love to go back in time to get another chance to redraft?

In  addition don't be foolish to think some gms that lucked out on a Giannis or Draymond Green are able to pull out the rabbit out of hat consistently.

2011 - Danny messed up with Johnson
2012 - Danny got a steal in Sully.  Next season he will come in the best shape of his life.  Melo was a "risky" pick that didn't pan out. If he had IQ on par with Deandre Jordan , he would prob be a good center by now
2013 - KO is progressing.  Judge him next season.  I will be hard on Kelly next season
2014 - Smart is one of the best rookies from the 2014draft. And he is just starting to come on his own on the offensive end. Did you not see that finger roll over Lopez? that is crazy.  Young is another "risky" pick . He needs time.  It's not like any picks after him right now is setting the world on fire

Danny and now with CBS know what they are doing. Danny is not making the picks all by himself.  If anything CBS is likely a big influence in what type of player Danny will draft.  One huge adv hiring a guy from college

Re: The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2015, 10:38:51 PM »

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2011: JaJuan Johnson
2012: Sullinger and Fab Melo
2013: Olynyk
2014: Smart and Young

2011 to 2013 are all blown drafts. Smart at least plays good D but for a top 6 pick they should do better. Young looks like a less athletic Gerald Green.

In 2011 they looked long and hard at Chandler Parsons. In an interview he even said he was shocked they did not pick him.

2012, Sullinger will eat himself out of the league and in Jackie Mac's article today Danny admits they knew he had weight issues. Fab Melo. Need I say more?

2013, Draftexpress starts covering the Greek Freak after Ainge is seen scouting him personally. He reverts to his typical anti Euro bias and takes the safe choice in Olynyk who can not guard a locked door with a shotgun. Meanwhile Giannis Antetokounmpo is going to be well, we all know what he is going to be.

2014, the jury is still out. Hopefully after three drafts in a row the Boston "Brain Trust" will not blow it. Do not hold your breath.

Boston has not drafted a decent player since Bradley in 2010. That is just awful. Sullinger is injury prone and has not even tried to handle his weight. Instead he lies about it. Look up any of his interviews from last summer if you don't believe me. Olynyk plays terrified and is useless on D. Useless.

In the end all the people who are excited we have however many million draft picks should realize Boston has blown four drafts in a row and blown them bad. There is no way to debate it. Melo, Johnson and even Brooks who he was traded for are all out of the league, Sullinger has yet to play a full season and is about to be the next Oliver Miller. Olynyk will be playing in Greece in two years while the Greek we should have picked will be in the MVP race. Thanks "Brain Trust".

TP

We have not drafted well at all.

Danny should pay the Celtics back for that expense paid trip to Greece. What a waste of time to go out there scout the kid, and then what???

Re: The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2015, 10:39:13 PM »

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Re: The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.
« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2015, 10:39:38 PM »

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Re: The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.
« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2015, 10:40:02 PM »

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Sensationalist nonsense


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Re: The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.
« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2015, 10:40:45 PM »

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This is the most exaggeration in the history of the world!  ;D
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Re: The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.
« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2015, 10:41:51 PM »

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jeez louise. yet another "danny cant draft" thread? why are these things still popping up? how many times does cb have to revisit this silliness?  :P

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Re: The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.
« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2015, 10:42:29 PM »

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2011: JaJuan Johnson
2012: Sullinger and Fab Melo
2013: Olynyk
2014: Smart and Young

2011 to 2013 are all blown drafts. Smart at least plays good D but for a top 6 pick they should do better. Young looks like a less athletic Gerald Green.

In 2011 they looked long and hard at Chandler Parsons. In an interview he even said he was shocked they did not pick him.

2012, Sullinger will eat himself out of the league and in Jackie Mac's article today Danny admits they knew he had weight issues. Fab Melo. Need I say more?

2013, Draftexpress starts covering the Greek Freak after Ainge is seen scouting him personally. He reverts to his typical anti Euro bias and takes the safe choice in Olynyk who can not guard a locked door with a shotgun. Meanwhile Giannis Antetokounmpo is going to be well, we all know what he is going to be.

2014, the jury is still out. Hopefully after three drafts in a row the Boston "Brain Trust" will not blow it. Do not hold your breath.

Boston has not drafted a decent player since Bradley in 2010. That is just awful. Sullinger is injury prone and has not even tried to handle his weight. Instead he lies about it. Look up any of his interviews from last summer if you don't believe me. Olynyk plays terrified and is useless on D. Useless.

In the end all the people who are excited we have however many million draft picks should realize Boston has blown four drafts in a row and blown them bad. There is no way to debate it. Melo, Johnson and even Brooks who he was traded for are all out of the league, Sullinger has yet to play a full season and is about to be the next Oliver Miller. Olynyk will be playing in Greece in two years while the Greek we should have picked will be in the MVP race. Thanks "Brain Trust".

TP

We have not drafted well at all.

Danny should pay the Celtics back for that expense paid trip to Greece. What a waste of time to go out there scout the kid, and then what???

Picking a player that is worthy of a pick higher than where he was actually picked is a fail just because a player who may be better was picked a couple picks later when 14 other teams decided to pass on him? Great logic. 2013 is too early to judge, but our pick has made the rising challenge game two years in a row and is commonly seen in the top 10 picks in re-drafts. That's not screwing up no matter how much you want to twist it around. Same goes with Sully. This isn't even opinion at this point.

If you all judged other GMs' drafting skills based on how many drafts they've missed on in a 4 year period, you would likely hate almost every single GMs' drafting ability. Who does that leave in the NBA if you think everyone is bad at drafting?

Re: The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.
« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2015, 10:48:35 PM »

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You can insult me all you would like but you have no counter to my actual argument. I am correct. Regarding the "Hindsight" line of debate, I specifically point out there were players Boston scouted extensively that Boston passed on, Antetokounmpo and Parsons. Boston has drafted awfully in 2011, 2012, 2013. 2014 is still in the air but early results are mixed at best. If you want to attack me for "whining" or "complaining" I hope living as a mindless yes man is to your liking.

A couple of people including myself have countered your 2012 argument. If Sully does in fact eat himself out of the league and Perry Jones makes some unprecedented leap then maybe you'll have something going. Maybe you can shed some light on how 2012 was such an abysmal failure for me and the rest of the mindless yes men/women.

If Sullinger eats himself out of the league, which every player other than Big Baby has done over the last 20 years, we have nothing to show for the 2012 draft. We could have picked Draymond Green who we were linked to closely leading to the draft, Khris Middleton who folks on this blog want to give a massive deal to next year. The Celtics admitted to knowing Sullinger had serious issues yet picked him. Meanwhile they did not take a chance on Giannis and took the safe choice the very next year? That is failing.

Re: The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.
« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2015, 10:50:26 PM »

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This is the most exaggeration in the history of the world!  ;D
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Re: The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.
« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2015, 10:52:38 PM »

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Everyday I wake up I immediately remember how we don't have Tony Wroten, and the pain and sadness start all over again.



Though I don't really look anything like this guy.

Good one! TP
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Re: The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.
« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2015, 10:55:19 PM »

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Re: The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.
« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2015, 10:59:18 PM »

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You can insult me all you would like but you have no counter to my actual argument. I am correct. Regarding the "Hindsight" line of debate, I specifically point out there were players Boston scouted extensively that Boston passed on, Antetokounmpo and Parsons. Boston has drafted awfully in 2011, 2012, 2013. 2014 is still in the air but early results are mixed at best. If you want to attack me for "whining" or "complaining" I hope living as a mindless yes man is to your liking.

A couple of people including myself have countered your 2012 argument. If Sully does in fact eat himself out of the league and Perry Jones makes some unprecedented leap then maybe you'll have something going. Maybe you can shed some light on how 2012 was such an abysmal failure for me and the rest of the mindless yes men/women.

If Sullinger eats himself out of the league, which every player other than Big Baby has done over the last 20 years, we have nothing to show for the 2012 draft. We could have picked Draymond Green who we were linked to closely leading to the draft, Khris Middleton who folks on this blog want to give a massive deal to next year. The Celtics admitted to knowing Sullinger had serious issues yet picked him. Meanwhile they did not take a chance on Giannis and took the safe choice the very next year? That is failing.

Posts like this are absolutely affecting the quality of C's blog.

What an utter joke.

You cannot believe this.

Re: The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.
« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2015, 11:02:54 PM »

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just for the heck of it we should probably try to do this with Bill Belichick too.  I'm not so sure we should give him credit for drafting Tom Brady. He passed over him like 5 times before taking him 199th.

Re: The Celtics have blown four drafts in a row.
« Reply #44 on: March 24, 2015, 11:04:26 PM »

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only busts were Johnson and Melo.
Sullinger is looking like a top 5 player from his draft who we got with a late/mid first round pick.
Olynyk looks like a top 7 or 8 player in his draft and we got him with pick 13.

Not sure what else you want from these drafts.

Smart looks pretty good to me considering how much his three point shooting has improved so quickly.
I think it's very possible that he becomes a 40% three point shooter and perennial candidate for DPOY which is great if it's his floor. At worst Smart looks like he'll be a rich man's Avery Bradley with more size and strength.
He's started to get more aggressive going to the rim which will only improve as he enters his second season.

I didn't agree with the James Young pick but he needs at least 2-3 seasons given his limited minutes and age- he's not even physically developed yet.

I think you're over reacting but I do agree that there have been a few big busts. I remember questioning the Melo pick but I guess he rolled the dice after getting Sullinger for such a steal.
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