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Re: Sully.....
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2015, 04:11:54 PM »

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I just don't get it.  This is a kid with back issues.  Doesn't he realize that the weight could cut his career short?  That he's potentially costing himself tens of millions of dollars if this keeps him from reaching his max potential?

I get why millions of people are overweight.  Bad eating habits, fatty / sugary foods being the easiest and cheapest to prepare / buy.  When you're a millionaire, though, those excuses go away.  You can eat extremely tasty food that isn't bad for you, made for you by a personal chef.  Sure, it takes some discipline, but use your future contracts as a motivator.

Sully says the worst he thinks that could happen with his excess weight is that he'll only be an NBA player for 8 or 9 years (and, of course, set for life).

It sounds like he'd be happy with Big Baby's career.

If true, that's just sad.  It's like the kid in high school who could be making straight As and earning scholarships, but he settles for Cs.


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Re: Sully.....
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2015, 04:31:06 PM »

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Sully: "People say, 'Hire a nutritionist,' but it's not that simple. What people don't understand is after a game, you get hungry. I stay up late, I'm not falling asleep and I want to eat. The hardest calories to burn off are those late-night calories."
(double facepalm) Is that for real? This is the kind of excuses you hear from middle age housewives not professional athletes...

He is the type of guy that will get in shape for his contract season, have a good season and everything will go back to normal, after he gets paid.  Hoping DA doesn't take the bait....
Yup. That's exactly how he was at the draft. 265 lbs an all downhill from there. Just say no.
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« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2015, 04:36:32 PM »

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On a positive note, averaging 14/8/2.5 while weighing 300 lbs is pretty insane. Confirms my belief that he's an all-star at 250-260 lbs.

As I mentioned, I'd take a fat Sully over most if not all the players in our current roster.

The only concern is the big long-term commitment, but as he's only 23 years old since just 3 weeks ago, then it's a dice I'd be willing to roll without much hesitation.
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« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2015, 04:41:08 PM »

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On a positive note, averaging 14/8/2.5 while weighing 300 lbs is pretty insane. Confirms my belief that he's an all-star at 250-260 lbs.

As I mentioned, I'd take a fat Sully over most if not all the players in our current roster.

The only concern is the big long-term commitment, but as his only 23 years old since just 3 weeks ago, then it's a dice I'd be willing to roll without much hesitation.

Same here.

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« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2015, 04:49:52 PM »

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Sully: "People say, 'Hire a nutritionist,' but it's not that simple. What people don't understand is after a game, you get hungry. I stay up late, I'm not falling asleep and I want to eat. The hardest calories to burn off are those late-night calories."
(double facepalm) Is that for real? This is the kind of excuses you hear from middle age housewives not professional athletes...

He is the type of guy that will get in shape for his contract season, have a good season and everything will go back to normal, after he gets paid.  Hoping DA doesn't take the bait....
Yup. That's exactly how he was at the draft. 265 lbs an all downhill from there. Just say no.

Personally I'd hope he does. Like Budweiser I'd take an overweight Sullinger over the players on the Celtics roster (and I like them a lot.)

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« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2015, 05:24:33 PM »

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Sully: "People say, 'Hire a nutritionist,' but it's not that simple. What people don't understand is after a game, you get hungry. I stay up late, I'm not falling asleep and I want to eat. The hardest calories to burn off are those late-night calories."
(double facepalm) Is that for real? This is the kind of excuses you hear from middle age housewives not professional athletes...

He is the type of guy that will get in shape for his contract season, have a good season and everything will go back to normal, after he gets paid.  Hoping DA doesn't take the bait....
Yup. That's exactly how he was at the draft. 265 lbs an all downhill from there. Just say no.

That's fine. You don't like anyone anyway.

Per the article, Sully is working hard and is already "out of his walking boot and looks visibly slimmer." It sounds like the guy is working hard. And who cares if it's just for a contract year? Either he becomes are more valuable asset or Danny signs him long term with weight clauses in his contract (as per the article). And the last line of is the most telling - "I have to do this for myself." is exactly the correct attitude.
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« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2015, 05:27:11 PM »

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As I mentioned, I'd take a fat Sully over most if not all the players in our current roster.

The only concern is the big long-term commitment, but as he's only 23 years old since just 3 weeks ago, then it's a dice I'd be willing to roll without much hesitation.

I think our team play improved once he was gone, and it was not just IT as he has been out.   The team runs and the defense is better.  Give me Jerebko and the platoon any day it is better to watch and I would bet we have won a greater percentage of games without him.  Care to bet?   I think we are almost a .500 without him.

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« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2015, 05:40:25 PM »

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As I mentioned, I'd take a fat Sully over most if not all the players in our current roster.

The only concern is the big long-term commitment, but as he's only 23 years old since just 3 weeks ago, then it's a dice I'd be willing to roll without much hesitation.

I think our team play improved once he was gone, and it was not just IT as he has been out.   The team runs and the defense is better.  Give me Jerebko and the platoon any day it is better to watch and I would bet we have won a greater percentage of games without him.  Care to bet?   I think we are almost a .500 without him.

After the Green trade and before Sully went down the Celtics were 8-8 with wins over Atlanta and Portland. So we were .500 with him post Green and Rondo.

In fact, Sully was playing good ball before he went out. He scored in double digits in 14 of 16 of those games, more than 20 points in 5 of them. He grabbed 7 or more boards in 15 of 16 of those games while playing closer to the basket (fewer 3pt attempts). It could be easily argued that Sully was having the best extended stretch of his career until he went down.

[dang] those pesky facts!
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« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2015, 05:43:22 PM »

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On a positive note, averaging 14/8/2.5 while weighing 300 lbs is pretty insane. Confirms my belief that he's an all-star at 250-260 lbs.

Yes, but chances are he will never get to that weight, or get there and revert back to his bad habits as soon as he feels like his goal is reached.

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« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2015, 05:44:10 PM »

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I don't know about you, but if read between the lines, I only see a young boy immature that is lying to himself. He doesn't realize that is weak and he needs help. The first step is to recognize he's wrong and admit it. Unfortunately he's not there yet. It's sad, considering the potential of this young man. I hope he'll get it for the next season.

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« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2015, 06:00:34 PM »

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As I mentioned, I'd take a fat Sully over most if not all the players in our current roster.

The only concern is the big long-term commitment, but as he's only 23 years old since just 3 weeks ago, then it's a dice I'd be willing to roll without much hesitation.

I think our team play improved once he was gone, and it was not just IT as he has been out.   The team runs and the defense is better.  Give me Jerebko and the platoon any day it is better to watch and I would bet we have won a greater percentage of games without him.  Care to bet?   I think we are almost a .500 without him.

That's just plain wrong. Our team was already playing good before Sully went down, they simply continued the upward trend, which also coincided with an influx in talent as it was.

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« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2015, 06:02:03 PM »

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Sully even fat is still one of the three best players most games . He is still one of my fav Celtics.

He is soooooo... immature .   Many times, people can't admit they have a problem .  They find it easier to ignore the problem, pretend it doesn't exist or that it is hurt n their life.

He has to come to grips with the fact , for him to reach his potential he needs a " life style change"

A new way to live .....the rest of your life.....with out smokes, drugs,  what ever .....he needs a new routine .....a new image and way of getting out of bed .

Food is not the total culprit in his problem .

He needs to live life different ...in a healthy professional way.


Get up early .....ride his bike, swim, treadmill , jog.....

Have gym days in the weight room


I think his BIG issue ....besides food ....self control.....he still acts like a kid......he stays up all night and EATS  .....and drinks crap.

He needs a routine .....eat his meal ......get in bed ASAP ......

He has bad health habits snd unacceptable for a professional .

Sully needs to GROW UP.....take responsibility for his life and change it .

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« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2015, 06:18:55 PM »

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That article was concerning.  Not for the Celtics, but everyone.  It shows that it may not be an effort issue, but an education issue, as it is with most people who try to get in shape.  It still even amazes me at all the people who run like hamsters for hours on end every day (literally) then guzzle down a Gatorade and eat a banana when they get off it for the "electrolytes" (hello 60+ grams of sugar.)  People are so ignorant on this (still), and it looks like Sullinger may be one here as well, sadly.

It's funny - I just had Jackie Mac on my show and we discussed Sullinger.  I made the joke of "Bar him from the North End."  It was a joke, but I was also being serious.  Do not let this man eat even a breadcrumb. 

One quote, of many, which stuck out was when he said that his snack was "a cup of fruit."  First off, the best snack is no snack.  Even the people with the most rigorous of lifestyles (and I'd say professional basketball is that) should EASILY be able to thrive of three good sized meals a day, if not two.  Snacking, particularly on fruit is just as unhealthy as eating a piece of pizza.

I remember seeing a tweet I think from Grande with a pic of the Celts on the team plane right after a game and there were all these fruit salads made up for the players.  I utterly cringed at the sight.  I just did a piece on nutrition in sports a few months ago.  Fructose, particularly after high intensity activity (a basketball game), when consumed - the sugar molecules goes predominantly to the liver.  For most, just around only around 20% of it replenishes glycogen stores.  Let alone the sugar spike it gives you when you're trying to get some sleep! For a guy like Sully, who may be more resistant to insulin than most - this could be that much bigger of an issue.  Certainly moreso than "trying to burn off those extra 400 calories."  400 calories (depending on the source) is a drop in the bucket.  Shouldn't mean much at all in terms of body fat.
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Re: Sully.....
« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2015, 06:19:58 PM »

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Sully: "People say, 'Hire a nutritionist,' but it's not that simple. What people don't understand is after a game, you get hungry. I stay up late, I'm not falling asleep and I want to eat. The hardest calories to burn off are those late-night calories."
(double facepalm) Is that for real? This is the kind of excuses you hear from middle age housewives not professional athletes...

He is the type of guy that will get in shape for his contract season, have a good season and everything will go back to normal, after he gets paid.  Hoping DA doesn't take the bait....
Yup. That's exactly how he was at the draft. 265 lbs an all downhill from there. Just say no.

That's fine. You don't like anyone anyway.

Per the article, Sully is working hard and is already "out of his walking boot and looks visibly slimmer." It sounds like the guy is working hard. And who cares if it's just for a contract year? Either he becomes are more valuable asset or Danny signs him long term with weight clauses in his contract (as per the article). And the last line of is the most telling - "I have to do this for myself." is exactly the correct attitude.
No, I just know better. Sullinger had weight issues in college. Showed to the combine in the best shape of his life. Got drafted by the Celtics and signed a guaranteed contract. Had weight issues again... and is coming towards the end of his guaranteed contract. Notice a pattern there?

He may show up looking like a bodybuilder next season, and I still won't believe he will remain in that shape for the duration of his next contract.
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« Reply #44 on: March 24, 2015, 06:25:29 PM »

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we should hire this guy for Fatbody Sullinger

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