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Re: What do we do with Sullinger now?
« Reply #75 on: March 13, 2015, 05:28:33 PM »

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The leading scorer of the team gets hurt for the rest of the season, and the celtics didn't miss a beat. Jerebko gets solid PT and contributes perfectly in the system and Kelly's back to spreading the floor. So what do we do with Sully? Personally, he's officially trade bait admist this surge. As skilled as he is, there' no fit for him here. Unless he magically turn his body into brandon bass over the summer, his fit in this offense is looking worse with every win.
I think his season numbers were inflated because he was the only "go-to" scorer and paint threat. Ironically, a 5'9 player has replaced him in both categories, while Jerebko's flying around for the same rebounds/tap-outs and making those 3s that Sully couldn't hit.

Sully was arguably the best player on the team all year, including Rondo/Green.  His talents are not something we should let go of so easily.

He has acknowledged his conditioning issues and hopefully will correct that.
This is hilarious. Jeff Green was an immeasurably better player for us than Sullinger; even Avery Bradley, with all his ups and downs, will arguably grade ahead on the balance.
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Re: What do we do with Sullinger now?
« Reply #76 on: March 13, 2015, 05:35:44 PM »

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Sullinger is young and cheap and good.

We keep him.

Re: What do we do with Sullinger now?
« Reply #77 on: March 13, 2015, 07:00:44 PM »

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The leading scorer of the team gets hurt for the rest of the season, and the celtics didn't miss a beat. Jerebko gets solid PT and contributes perfectly in the system and Kelly's back to spreading the floor. So what do we do with Sully? Personally, he's officially trade bait admist this surge. As skilled as he is, there' no fit for him here. Unless he magically turn his body into brandon bass over the summer, his fit in this offense is looking worse with every win.
I think his season numbers were inflated because he was the only "go-to" scorer and paint threat. Ironically, a 5'9 player has replaced him in both categories, while Jerebko's flying around for the same rebounds/tap-outs and making those 3s that Sully couldn't hit.

Sully was arguably the best player on the team all year, including Rondo/Green.  His talents are not something we should let go of so easily.

He has acknowledged his conditioning issues and hopefully will correct that.
This is hilarious. Jeff Green was an immeasurably better player for us than Sullinger; even Avery Bradley, with all his ups and downs, will arguably grade ahead on the balance.

Immeasurable as in not-measurable?

Re: What do we do with Sullinger now?
« Reply #78 on: March 13, 2015, 07:10:06 PM »

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The chubby Sully we all know is a nice backup PF. Presently, he's just not conditioned to be a 30 minute plus starter. He takes too many minutes off.

Next year will be important for him.

Re: What do we do with Sullinger now?
« Reply #79 on: March 13, 2015, 07:14:48 PM »

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I could see DA trying to deal Sullinger this summer.

He made some telling comments on the Sports Hub recently about how Sully didn't do his job this year as far as his conditioning is concerned.

Maybe a draft night deal where the Celts offer Sully to Philly for Noel does make some sense if Philly considered it.

We might have to kick in a pick or two.

I think the idea here is to make the team more athletic and I think Sully might slow this down.

Re: What do we do with Sullinger now?
« Reply #80 on: March 13, 2015, 10:05:09 PM »

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I could see DA trying to deal Sullinger this summer.

He made some telling comments on the Sports Hub recently about how Sully didn't do his job this year as far as his conditioning is concerned.

Maybe a draft night deal where the Celts offer Sully to Philly for Noel does make some sense if Philly considered it.

We might have to kick in a pick or two.

I think the idea here is to make the team more athletic and I think Sully might slow this down.
Sully for Noel makes no sense from a Philly perspective.  They don't want a short, slow, unathletic, poorly conditioned big who doesn't defend very well.   

Re: What do we do with Sullinger now?
« Reply #81 on: March 13, 2015, 10:11:58 PM »

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Depends if Sully can LOSE weight. Honestly, because KO is a better 3pt shooter, and his size and experience can help his defense in the future, I prefer KO over Sully at this point.

See what he does in off season, and then make the decision to re-sign or trade. I think Sully is going to be traded solely on the fact Jerebko/KO seem like the best fit for Brad's system.
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Re: What do we do with Sullinger now?
« Reply #82 on: March 13, 2015, 10:16:26 PM »

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I could see DA trying to deal Sullinger this summer.

He made some telling comments on the Sports Hub recently about how Sully didn't do his job this year as far as his conditioning is concerned.

Maybe a draft night deal where the Celts offer Sully to Philly for Noel does make some sense if Philly considered it.

We might have to kick in a pick or two.

I think the idea here is to make the team more athletic and I think Sully might slow this down.

What makes you think Philly would have any interest in Sullinger at the expense of Noel, whom they have on a cheap deal for another two seasons, is the foundation of their defense, and is an insanely better fit for their team?

Re: What do we do with Sullinger now?
« Reply #83 on: March 13, 2015, 10:53:32 PM »

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I could see DA trying to deal Sullinger this summer.

He made some telling comments on the Sports Hub recently about how Sully didn't do his job this year as far as his conditioning is concerned.

Maybe a draft night deal where the Celts offer Sully to Philly for Noel does make some sense if Philly considered it.

We might have to kick in a pick or two.

I think the idea here is to make the team more athletic and I think Sully might slow this down.

What makes you think Philly would have any interest in Sullinger at the expense of Noel, whom they have on a cheap deal for another two seasons, is the foundation of their defense, and is an insanely better fit for their team?

How can Noel be an insanely better fit when he's the only player the Sixers currently have?

Re: What do we do with Sullinger now?
« Reply #84 on: March 14, 2015, 09:26:12 AM »

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We need to ship him out for anything better than 80c on the dollar.

Whoever controls his restricted free agent rights in 2016 is going to be a loser. He either comes back in the same (or worse) condition as before, in which case he has little to no value because there's a good chance his career is ended by injury any given game. Or he manages to trim down, puts up 18 and 8 in 36 minutes and someone will offer him something like $60m/4yrs.

The problem with the second scenario is that it's unknowable whether he's just put in the work for a contract or if he's actually committed to long term change.

Re: What do we do with Sullinger now?
« Reply #85 on: March 14, 2015, 10:10:16 AM »

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Sully was arguably the best player on the team all year, including Rondo/Green.  His talents are not something we should let go of so easily.

He has acknowledged his conditioning issues and hopefully will correct that.

how can you take him seriously, he said it last year too.

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WALTHAM — This is Jared Sullinger’s first summer as an NBA player in which he is not dealing with back issues, and he plans to capitalize on being healthy by making himself a more productive player.

The burly forward, entering his third season, said a physical transformation will ensure he is fresher in the late stages of games. Sullinger, who Wednesday practiced with the Celtics’ summer league squad (although he will not play), wants to begin next season in career-best condition.

“I think conditioning was a big factor,” he said. “Late in the game, I’d get tired and stop doing the things that I normally do in the first quarter. I think conditioning will kind of help that out. It’s another opportunity to play against other guys and kind of push myself to another limit, work on things that I don’t normally work on by myself and then I’ve got bodies out here. Going against bodies, pushing myself through contact. So everything is kind of helping me with conditioning.”                          JULY 03, 2014

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Sullinger doesn’t look considerably lighter, but said that isn’t a concern.

“Not really focused on weight. More shape,” he said. “How long I can run, how fast I can run. Pretty much how long I can stay on the court without passing out. I’m working on that every day. I think I’ve got quick feet for my size. Losing weight and getting in better shape is only going to enhance that.” JULY 03, 2014

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/07/02/cnotes/lyA0clB4wlV7uIlumZdRmK/story.html

BTW, I have a bridge I will sell you on the cheap if want it, it is in New Jersey and Chris Christy personnally had it closed.   Your not that naive?   You are when it comes to Sully as that quote was from last year.

I still think even if he gets his act together, and no one wants him to fail I don't think, he is deeply flawed.   Thing is he has talent.   But he is not athletic and has character issues regarding professionalism.   He missed the bus literally a few times this year.  He did not get into shape, if he does it again this year Ainge will send him packing.

I don't think he was ever our best player save 1-2 games where he did really well. The game vs. he Kings comes to mind with the Rondoless Celtics.

Re: What do we do with Sullinger now?
« Reply #86 on: March 14, 2015, 11:12:27 AM »

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Boogie with 39 and 24 last night :o

Imagine him and Sully together in Green in the near future - AWESOME.

I'll let SAC continue to lose and Danny collect his assets, and our frontline will be set for the next 10 years with these two.

Re: What do we do with Sullinger now?
« Reply #87 on: March 14, 2015, 11:44:25 AM »

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The leading scorer of the team gets hurt for the rest of the season, and the celtics didn't miss a beat. Jerebko gets solid PT and contributes perfectly in the system and Kelly's back to spreading the floor. So what do we do with Sully? Personally, he's officially trade bait admist this surge. As skilled as he is, there' no fit for him here. Unless he magically turn his body into brandon bass over the summer, his fit in this offense is looking worse with every win.
I think his season numbers were inflated because he was the only "go-to" scorer and paint threat. Ironically, a 5'9 player has replaced him in both categories, while Jerebko's flying around for the same rebounds/tap-outs and making those 3s that Sully couldn't hit.

Sully was arguably the best player on the team all year, including Rondo/Green.  His talents are not something we should let go of so easily.

He has acknowledged his conditioning issues and hopefully will correct that.
This is hilarious. Jeff Green was an immeasurably better player for us than Sullinger; even Avery Bradley, with all his ups and downs, will arguably grade ahead on the balance.

Please provide your "immeasurables" that support your point.  Oh wait you can't because there are none.

Sullinger has the highest value over replacement player of anybody on the Cs roster this year, including Rondo and Green.  He had twice as many win shares as Green.

By almost every measure he was and is a better player than Green was for this team. 


Re: What do we do with Sullinger now?
« Reply #88 on: March 14, 2015, 11:53:26 AM »

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I could see DA trying to deal Sullinger this summer.

He made some telling comments on the Sports Hub recently about how Sully didn't do his job this year as far as his conditioning is concerned.

Maybe a draft night deal where the Celts offer Sully to Philly for Noel does make some sense if Philly considered it.

We might have to kick in a pick or two.

I think the idea here is to make the team more athletic and I think Sully might slow this down.

What makes you think Philly would have any interest in Sullinger at the expense of Noel, whom they have on a cheap deal for another two seasons, is the foundation of their defense, and is an insanely better fit for their team?

How can Noel be an insanely better fit when he's the only player the Sixers currently have?
Noel sure did a job on Cousins last night.  39 points, 24 boards, 9ORB. 

Re: What do we do with Sullinger now?
« Reply #89 on: March 14, 2015, 11:54:29 AM »

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The leading scorer of the team gets hurt for the rest of the season, and the celtics didn't miss a beat. Jerebko gets solid PT and contributes perfectly in the system and Kelly's back to spreading the floor. So what do we do with Sully? Personally, he's officially trade bait admist this surge. As skilled as he is, there' no fit for him here. Unless he magically turn his body into brandon bass over the summer, his fit in this offense is looking worse with every win.
I think his season numbers were inflated because he was the only "go-to" scorer and paint threat. Ironically, a 5'9 player has replaced him in both categories, while Jerebko's flying around for the same rebounds/tap-outs and making those 3s that Sully couldn't hit.

Sully was arguably the best player on the team all year, including Rondo/Green.  His talents are not something we should let go of so easily.

He has acknowledged his conditioning issues and hopefully will correct that.
This is hilarious. Jeff Green was an immeasurably better player for us than Sullinger; even Avery Bradley, with all his ups and downs, will arguably grade ahead on the balance.

Please provide your "immeasurables" that support your point.  Oh wait you can't because there are none.

Sullinger has the highest value over replacement player of anybody on the Cs roster this year, including Rondo and Green.  He had twice as many win shares as Green.

By almost every measure he was and is a better player than Green was for this team.
Sullinger out-played Green the entire year.