Ainge should've acquired a big man at the deadline

[gpap]

Danny has acquired plenty of big men in the last two years:

DJ White
Shav Randolph
Colton Iverson
Vitor Faverani
Joel Anthony
Dwight Powell
Shav Randolph (again!)
Jonas Jerebko

Impressive huh?

Lol!

Oh yeah

I am beside myself right now.

[chambers]

I disagree (respectfully).
I understand that we need a better than average big man, but acquiring one of the cast offs that were unwanted by their teams appeared to be the only option.

We've got Zeller, Bass, Sullinger and Olynyk and Olynyk is expected back soon.

Not sure who you think Danny could have gotten that would've pushed us over the edge and into the playoffs but after seeing that the Nets upgraded, the Pistons upgraded and the Heat upgraded (before Bosh went down), making the playoffs as a sorrily losing team probably wasn't on Danny's priority list.

What assets would we have to give up to get one of those guys anyway?
I wouldn't want to give away any decent assets for the chumps that were available at the deadline.
I'd argue that Zeller is playing better than Kanter and Plumlee and as good, if not better than Lopez- who is a 24/7 foot injury away from sitting out the rest of the season anyway- not to mention his bazillion $ contract.

Really can't see the point in letting this team overachieve with a bad roster, then give away assets to push for the 8th seed as a massively losing team.

Boy, that front court is going to win us a championship or 6.

By the way, Sully is out for the year and Olynyk is hurt.

So we were winning a championship or six by acquiring the deadline scrubs that were available?
Tell me who we could have gotten that would have made us a playoff threat?

We also didn't know Sullinger would be out for the year and Olynyk is not out for the last 30 games.

It's frustrating seeing our guys get torched out there but they've made it this far themselves, so let them see where they can get on their own.
T
 hey lost Sully but gained Thomas, rebounding will hurt but we've got a go to scorer now.
Zeller will also get 30 games to show off his skills and increase his value before draft night incase we decide to bundle him with a pick to get another good prospect.

Patience young grasshopper.

[gpap]

I disagree (respectfully).
I understand that we need a better than average big man, but acquiring one of the cast offs that were unwanted by their teams appeared to be the only option.

We've got Zeller, Bass, Sullinger and Olynyk and Olynyk is expected back soon.

Not sure who you think Danny could have gotten that would've pushed us over the edge and into the playoffs but after seeing that the Nets upgraded, the Pistons upgraded and the Heat upgraded (before Bosh went down), making the playoffs as a sorrily losing team probably wasn't on Danny's priority list.

What assets would we have to give up to get one of those guys anyway?
I wouldn't want to give away any decent assets for the chumps that were available at the deadline.
I'd argue that Zeller is playing better than Kanter and Plumlee and as good, if not better than Lopez- who is a 24/7 foot injury away from sitting out the rest of the season anyway- not to mention his bazillion $ contract.

Really can't see the point in letting this team overachieve with a bad roster, then give away assets to push for the 8th seed as a massively losing team.

Boy, that front court is going to win us a championship or 6.

By the way, Sully is out for the year and Olynyk is hurt.

So we were winning a championship or six by acquiring the deadline scrubs that were available?
Tell me who we could have gotten that would have made us a playoff threat?

We also didn't know Sullinger would be out for the year and Olynyk is not out for the last 30 games.

It's frustrating seeing our guys get torched out there but they've made it this far themselves, so let them see where they can get on their own.
T
 hey lost Sully but gained Thomas, rebounding will hurt but we've got a go to scorer now.
Zeller will also get 30 games to show off his skills and increase his value before draft night incase we decide to bundle him with a pick to get another good prospect.

Patience young grasshopper.

I would've like to seen us get either Kanter, Plumlee, Lopez, or even sign Perk after he got bought out.

I would've like to have seen us make the playoffs but now clearly that's not happening.

Plus, I just don't like Olynyk.

[Evantime34]

It doesn't make since to pay assets to add someone who will make you slightly better now but isn't in the long term plans
Kanter doesn't play defense and could cost us a ton as a free agent
Lopez- does not fit into the play style of the C's and would seriously cut into their cap space
Perk- only going to a contender after being bought out
Plumlee- is pretty much the same player as Zeller

Ainge looked around the market and didn't see a long term big available for a reasonable price. The reason they traded all the vets is because those guys weren't a part of the future. If Ainge saw a player that could be part of the future without giving up too many future assets he would be on the team.

[jambr380]

On a somewhat off-note, I will be pretty upset if Jerebko plays a bunch and wins us a few games (obviously not on his own). I wouldn't be horrified at making the playoffs, but if we end up with the 12th pick instead of the 6th because of our desire to eek out every win, then that will be a disappointment. Jeff Green turned into Prince who turned into Jerebko - yikes!

[LHR]

Just wasn't out there.  Monroe or Hibbert could be possibilities to explore come summer time.

Patience - it's about capitalizing most on opportunities.  As I said on the show this week with Sean Deveney - Ainge doesn't have to put a dinner on the table just yet.  But that kitchen smells awfully good right now.

[Geo123]

I disagree (respectfully).
I understand that we need a better than average big man, but acquiring one of the cast offs that were unwanted by their teams appeared to be the only option.

We've got Zeller, Bass, Sullinger and Olynyk and Olynyk is expected back soon.

Not sure who you think Danny could have gotten that would've pushed us over the edge and into the playoffs but after seeing that the Nets upgraded, the Pistons upgraded and the Heat upgraded (before Bosh went down), making the playoffs as a sorrily losing team probably wasn't on Danny's priority list.

What assets would we have to give up to get one of those guys anyway?
I wouldn't want to give away any decent assets for the chumps that were available at the deadline.
I'd argue that Zeller is playing better than Kanter and Plumlee and as good, if not better than Lopez- who is a 24/7 foot injury away from sitting out the rest of the season anyway- not to mention his bazillion $ contract.

Really can't see the point in letting this team overachieve with a bad roster, then give away assets to push for the 8th seed as a massively losing team.

Boy, that front court is going to win us a championship or 6.

By the way, Sully is out for the year and Olynyk is hurt.

So we were winning a championship or six by acquiring the deadline scrubs that were available?
Tell me who we could have gotten that would have made us a playoff threat?

We also didn't know Sullinger would be out for the year and Olynyk is not out for the last 30 games.

It's frustrating seeing our guys get torched out there but they've made it this far themselves, so let them see where they can get on their own.
T
 hey lost Sully but gained Thomas, rebounding will hurt but we've got a go to scorer now.
Zeller will also get 30 games to show off his skills and increase his value before draft night incase we decide to bundle him with a pick to get another good prospect.

Patience young grasshopper.

I would've like to seen us get either Kanter, Plumlee, Lopez, or even sign Perk after he got bought out.

I would've like to have seen us make the playoffs but now clearly that's not happening.

Plus, I just don't like Olynyk.

Perkins wasn't going to sign with us and Plumlee (the good one from the Nets wasn't going to be traded).  Lopez DEFINITELY isn't worth the dollars based on his injury history.  I would have liked Kantner though. 

I thought Danny did well.  He kept our cap flexibility while also picking up IT for a song. 

[SHAQATTACK]

Get Sanders.

There must be a dozen good shrinks in Boston


Better health though Meds

[D.o.s.]

The other thing to keep in mind is that your height and your basketball ability are inverse, as far as ease of entry into the NBA. In other words, if you're ok at basketball but 7 feet tall, you have a much better shot than if you're 6 feet tall.

We just saw a list of bigs Ainge has nabbed that are ~7 feet tall and ok at basketball. For every one KG, there are 10 Vitors.


If you're 7 feet tall and really good at basketball, you very rarely wind up on the open market/in trade talks.

[hwangjini_1]

Just wasn't out there.  Monroe or Hibbert could be possibilities to explore come summer time.

Patience - it's about capitalizing most on opportunities.  As I said on the show this week with Sean Deveney - Ainge doesn't have to put a dinner on the table just yet.  But that kitchen smells awfully good right now.

ok, but don't let sully know about the dinner. 

[Jonny CC]

I disagree (respectfully).
I understand that we need a better than average big man, but acquiring one of the cast offs that were unwanted by their teams appeared to be the only option.

We've got Zeller, Bass, Sullinger and Olynyk and Olynyk is expected back soon.

Not sure who you think Danny could have gotten that would've pushed us over the edge and into the playoffs but after seeing that the Nets upgraded, the Pistons upgraded and the Heat upgraded (before Bosh went down), making the playoffs as a sorrily losing team probably wasn't on Danny's priority list.

What assets would we have to give up to get one of those guys anyway?
I wouldn't want to give away any decent assets for the chumps that were available at the deadline.
I'd argue that Zeller is playing better than Kanter and Plumlee and as good, if not better than Lopez- who is a 24/7 foot injury away from sitting out the rest of the season anyway- not to mention his bazillion $ contract.

Really can't see the point in letting this team overachieve with a bad roster, then give away assets to push for the 8th seed as a massively losing team.

Boy, that front court is going to win us a championship or 6.

By the way, Sully is out for the year and Olynyk is hurt.

So we were winning a championship or six by acquiring the deadline scrubs that were available?
Tell me who we could have gotten that would have made us a playoff threat?

We also didn't know Sullinger would be out for the year and Olynyk is not out for the last 30 games.

It's frustrating seeing our guys get torched out there but they've made it this far themselves, so let them see where they can get on their own.
T
 hey lost Sully but gained Thomas, rebounding will hurt but we've got a go to scorer now.
Zeller will also get 30 games to show off his skills and increase his value before draft night incase we decide to bundle him with a pick to get another good prospect.

Patience young grasshopper.

I would've like to seen us get either Kanter, Plumlee, Lopez, or even sign Perk after he got bought out.

I would've like to have seen us make the playoffs but now clearly that's not happening.

Plus, I just don't like Olynyk.

Kanter is going to be a free agent so he would have been a risk.
Plumlee would have been a good option but who's to say that Danny didn't try to get him with IT?  He's not a bad player but I don't think he would be the difference in making a playoff run. 
I have no interest in Lopez. Huge contract and is always hurt.
Perk?...That's laughable.  Is it Danny's fault that Perk is going to sign with a contender after his buyout?!?!  He wouldn't add much for the C's.  He's been toast for a while. 

[Celtics4ever]

I am all for acquiring players but I think the word "good" should be added to the title.   That really takes Kanter out of the running and the other guys.   Kanter is above average rebounder, average scorer and below average defender that is not good in my books.   Just getting a big body would not have done anything without that player being good.

[Moranis]

I disagree (respectfully).
I understand that we need a better than average big man, but acquiring one of the cast offs that were unwanted by their teams appeared to be the only option.

We've got Zeller, Bass, Sullinger and Olynyk and Olynyk is expected back soon.

Not sure who you think Danny could have gotten that would've pushed us over the edge and into the playoffs but after seeing that the Nets upgraded, the Pistons upgraded and the Heat upgraded (before Bosh went down), making the playoffs as a sorrily losing team probably wasn't on Danny's priority list.

What assets would we have to give up to get one of those guys anyway?
I wouldn't want to give away any decent assets for the chumps that were available at the deadline.
I'd argue that Zeller is playing better than Kanter and Plumlee and as good, if not better than Lopez- who is a 24/7 foot injury away from sitting out the rest of the season anyway- not to mention his bazillion $ contract.

Really can't see the point in letting this team overachieve with a bad roster, then give away assets to push for the 8th seed as a massively losing team.

Boy, that front court is going to win us a championship or 6.

By the way, Sully is out for the year and Olynyk is hurt.

So we were winning a championship or six by acquiring the deadline scrubs that were available?
Tell me who we could have gotten that would have made us a playoff threat?

We also didn't know Sullinger would be out for the year and Olynyk is not out for the last 30 games.

It's frustrating seeing our guys get torched out there but they've made it this far themselves, so let them see where they can get on their own.
T
 hey lost Sully but gained Thomas, rebounding will hurt but we've got a go to scorer now.
Zeller will also get 30 games to show off his skills and increase his value before draft night incase we decide to bundle him with a pick to get another good prospect.

Patience young grasshopper.

I would've like to seen us get either Kanter, Plumlee, Lopez, or even sign Perk after he got bought out.

I would've like to have seen us make the playoffs but now clearly that's not happening.

Plus, I just don't like Olynyk.

Kanter is going to be a free agent so he would have been a risk.
Plumlee would have been a good option but who's to say that Danny didn't try to get him with IT?  He's not a bad player but I don't think he would be the difference in making a playoff run. 
I have no interest in Lopez. Huge contract and is always hurt.
Perk?...That's laughable.  Is it Danny's fault that Perk is going to sign with a contender after his buyout?!?!  He wouldn't add much for the C's.  He's been toast for a while.

Yeah but the Jazz acquired only Perkins (who they bought out) and a couple of second round picks for Kanter.  I mean Boston had a TPE and could have sent a couple of seconds and taken that chance at the cost of almost nothing.  If he works out great, you sign him this summer, if he doesn't then you just let him go.  a couple of second rounders and a TPE is worth that sort of risk.

[kozlodoev]

Yeah but the Jazz acquired only Perkins (who they bought out) and a couple of second round picks for Kanter.

Incorrect, the Jazz acquired a 2017 first-rounder (OKC) and a 2017 second-rounder (Pistons).

[saltlover]

I disagree (respectfully).
I understand that we need a better than average big man, but acquiring one of the cast offs that were unwanted by their teams appeared to be the only option.

We've got Zeller, Bass, Sullinger and Olynyk and Olynyk is expected back soon.

Not sure who you think Danny could have gotten that would've pushed us over the edge and into the playoffs but after seeing that the Nets upgraded, the Pistons upgraded and the Heat upgraded (before Bosh went down), making the playoffs as a sorrily losing team probably wasn't on Danny's priority list.

What assets would we have to give up to get one of those guys anyway?
I wouldn't want to give away any decent assets for the chumps that were available at the deadline.
I'd argue that Zeller is playing better than Kanter and Plumlee and as good, if not better than Lopez- who is a 24/7 foot injury away from sitting out the rest of the season anyway- not to mention his bazillion $ contract.

Really can't see the point in letting this team overachieve with a bad roster, then give away assets to push for the 8th seed as a massively losing team.

Boy, that front court is going to win us a championship or 6.

By the way, Sully is out for the year and Olynyk is hurt.

So we were winning a championship or six by acquiring the deadline scrubs that were available?
Tell me who we could have gotten that would have made us a playoff threat?

We also didn't know Sullinger would be out for the year and Olynyk is not out for the last 30 games.

It's frustrating seeing our guys get torched out there but they've made it this far themselves, so let them see where they can get on their own.
T
 hey lost Sully but gained Thomas, rebounding will hurt but we've got a go to scorer now.
Zeller will also get 30 games to show off his skills and increase his value before draft night incase we decide to bundle him with a pick to get another good prospect.

Patience young grasshopper.

I would've like to seen us get either Kanter, Plumlee, Lopez, or even sign Perk after he got bought out.

I would've like to have seen us make the playoffs but now clearly that's not happening.

Plus, I just don't like Olynyk.

Kanter is going to be a free agent so he would have been a risk.
Plumlee would have been a good option but who's to say that Danny didn't try to get him with IT?  He's not a bad player but I don't think he would be the difference in making a playoff run. 
I have no interest in Lopez. Huge contract and is always hurt.
Perk?...That's laughable.  Is it Danny's fault that Perk is going to sign with a contender after his buyout?!?!  He wouldn't add much for the C's.  He's been toast for a while.

Yeah but the Jazz acquired only Perkins (who they bought out) and a couple of second round picks for Kanter.  I mean Boston had a TPE and could have sent a couple of seconds and taken that chance at the cost of almost nothing.  If he works out great, you sign him this summer, if he doesn't then you just let him go.  a couple of second rounders and a TPE is worth that sort of risk.

Jazz got a 1st and a 2nd, and also got to get rid of $3.75 million owed next year to another player.  That price is much higher than 2 2nds.  For someone who wanted out of Utah and whom they were moving beyond, they did quite well.